2019-07-26 at 6:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator
??? Wtf are you talking about nigger. The fact is that racial similarity has not ever, ever lead to anything like political unity or establish or legitimise any government. Otherwise shit like the god damn World Wars would not have happened.
Of course you are going to further degrade the concept of race to justify these conflicts… and further argue my point that ultimately it just breaks down into individuals and there really is no inherent unifying principle that legitimises all governmental actions to every individual.
?? Whatt
Literally the only reason why international extradition treaties are a thing is because of how borders define political power… If they didn't, you could easily traipse across the border and just take back the fugitive.
Sanctions only matter because of the political capital attached to the border. If tomorrow there was a democratic revolution in Iran and the people overthrew their government, it's highly unlikely the same sanctions that applied to that government will apply to the country under the new regime. Again, they are a feature of political power.
And as for economics, it is only political insofar as the government has the political power to enforce its laws within its borders. So for example, the reason why your economies are separate is because you have different currencies, different laws, can't trade without a separate level of governmental interjection that means you are operating in a very different economic sphere than me. The government's influence only matters to where it has political power.
So for example, I don't want to have to I select my food for lead poisoning every time. I don't want botulism in my canned pineapples. I don't want contaminated medicine. I don't want to worry about it. So I buy into a social fabric where I give up my freedom to not have my products inspected by the government, in exchange for the benefit of living in a society where the products are inspected for safety by the government. This way I don't have to worry about lead poisoning. I can let the government take care of that. That consenting exchange is the basis of government's power (mandate). The economic impact the government has is… Political. The boundaries it defines economically are drawn along… Political lines.
Ah yes, racial homogeneity solves everything, there is never any political violence after this and even if it's direct violence then surely someone of the same race as you must know what is best for you… No it ain't, shithead. Trying to tie governmental legitimacy to race doesn't work on any level, except the one where you twist semantics to the point where the words you are using don't mean shit.
It was only after the slaves were freed that America became a unified, monocultural, monoracial country? Okay lmao.
The United States is still not one nation. It never was. Neither is China, nor anywhere else. Your race doesn't establish shit, ultimately it is someone who does not know jack shit about your situation making decisions for you. Under this framework of thought, no government is legitimate except the government of one, of yourself upon yourself.
Every aggregate group is just a spectrum of differences. All you're saying is that eventually every nation will subdivide into libertarianism with no room for any government. The fact that the government is of the same race as me doesn't mean jack shit regarding their authority over me.
Yeah it's not like there was a deliberate 300 year long campaign to sow division by the British…
India and Pakistan themselves are massively ethnically diverse nations, particularly India, and along many more lines than in the broadest religions. Hindu sects still beat the fuck out of each other on the streets, and political violence still breaks out in voting districts outside of large city centers.
Fact is, you keep drawing the line arbitrarily where you want it, i.e. where you have to draw it to justify your government brainwashing.
The only people "speculating" this are brain dead mongs who get most of their information from 4chan. There will be no civil war or secession in the US, anyone who believes that has literally bought into memes as reality and needs to disconnect from the internet for a looooong time.
4chan is mental illness.
Ok. Maybe you should purify your nation to the point where there's only one person left, and their ideology is as pure as can be.
Who gives a fuck about races or cultures. Governments are administrative conveniences. I don't want to get lead poisoning from my pipes, I want a body that can handle that for me. I do not give a motherfuck if that body is flavoured vanilla or neapolitan.
That the point dipshit. Mao being Chinese has nothing to do with legitimising his reign: why should any Chinese accept Mao's dipshittery any more than a foreigner?
If a more competent foreign administration made better decisions that weren't fueled by shit science… would you rather have Mao and his shit science killing millions just because he has slanty eyes like you?
Melting down their farming tools for shit quality metal.
The only measure by which the EU "imposes" these… Is by the terms of participation in the union. The reason why nations comply… Is because they want to remain in the union… Because it's good for them. It's not forcing anyone to do anything or removing their sovereignty whatsoever. The "force" is offering the benefits of the Union.
Just as a matter of interest, did anyone read this?
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well yeah, I don't really see it as legitimate but I also don't have a way to argue that point against a tank battalion
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2019-07-26 at 4:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator
What legitimises government?
the people
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2019-07-26 at 5:27 PM UTC
But seriously... Which people? What legitimises the authority of government to you for example? Why do you believe you ought to obey a law made by someone who doesn't know you or your circumstances?
Forget whether it is the Hague or 10 Downing St.
