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The Antichrist is artificial intelligence and the mark of the beast is BCI technology (Neuralink).
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2019-07-17 at 1:55 PM UTC
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2019-07-17 at 1:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost But ads are just algorithms which is skip logic which isn't anywhere close to what true AI is.
The algorithms aren't even good, if they can't even get something like that working properly there is no way there is some advanced AI out there.
Wish I could find the image explaining it in detail.
It's something about how there is a feedback loop between the economy and culture, which are interlinked between algorithms.
Trends, motivations, job selection, the media etc are coming together through a facebook/yt esque A.I. system and pushing humanity towards a certain direction.
Let me pause and say, you all here do remember what people were like before facebook and twitter right?
Things were more individualist and people had a sense of reality, it seems today there are more psychologically warped people and a strong sense of collectivism.
Humanity is being conditioned for a hivemind type of thinking because eventually through BCI technology they will literally become a hivemind. -
2019-07-17 at 1:58 PM UTCThat will never happen on a worldwide scale, and if somehow it did, it wouldn't happen in any of our lifetimes
It's true that people are much more conformist than they used to be, but there are still too many opposing groups for them to be resolved into a single "hivemind" any time soon -
2019-07-17 at 1:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jυicebox I think everyone should live like a woodsman
Living off the land in small communities will be the future of the European race.
I could see Asians and jews becoming the BCI hivemind class, since they're bug-like and mindless already.
Ted Kazinsky and Timothy McVeigh were right, unfortunately, and it seems like a mini dark age is about to commence .... I have had a feeling this would happen for years now, I don't know why.
But yeah, I could see "simple living" with your volk to be a decent replacement for a technologically driven life, people lived this way decades ago so it wouldn't hurt humanity to return to that form of living.
I just hope this doesn't slow down or halt scientific progress, such as curing diseases and extending lifespans. -
2019-07-17 at 2:01 PM UTCCuring diseases and extending lifespans only leads to overpopulation
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2019-07-17 at 2:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jυicebox That will never happen on a worldwide scale, and if somehow it did, it wouldn't happen in any of our lifetimes
It's true that people are much more conformist than they used to be, but there are still too many opposing groups for them to be resolved into a single "hivemind" any time soon
You are so naive.
This is all happening right now, it's in motion, it was all planned out centuries ago by the class that "rules" this world.
You absolutely will live to see this all unfold, assuming you aren't planning on dying in the next 30 to 40 years.
Right now I'm blackpilled as fuck and expecting the worse, but there is still the possibility that a miracle could happen and humanity will be saved. -
2019-07-17 at 2:02 PM UTC
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2019-07-17 at 2:03 PM UTCEveryone has always been this retarded but yes Facebook does cause cognitive dissonance and swollen amygdala.
I don't think it has anything to do with AI it's just what happens when the majority of human interaction goes digital.
Facebook cant even stop fake news and they are powerless to collective memeing -
2019-07-17 at 2:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jυicebox Curing diseases and extending lifespans only leads to overpopulation
So?
Send them to other planets.
Just because BCI tech leading to a hivemind controlled by A.I. is absolutely stupid and ridiculous doesn't mean people need to abandon all forms of futurism.
If the humans of earth don't die out in the coming decades then in the later decades of this century space exploration and colonization will be a thing. -
2019-07-17 at 2:10 PM UTCI don't think space exploration is going to happen any time soon, and if it does, distortions in the passage of time will probably kill the appeal pretty quickly
Unless you think people are going to just be willing to up and move to another planet knowing they'll never see earth again, or at least not as they know it -
2019-07-17 at 2:13 PM UTCI want to die in a space station the size of a house orbiting the Moon
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2019-07-17 at 2:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jυicebox I don't think space exploration is going to happen any time soon, and if it does, distortions in the passage of time will probably kill the appeal pretty quickly
Unless you think people are going to just be willing to up and move to another planet knowing they'll never see earth again, or at least not as they know it
There is the possibility that a secret space travel project happened decades ago and that a breakaway civilization in space already exists.
Teleportation and wormholes are probably something you can actually do/create so that would solve the time issue regarding space travel.
Also people can be convinced to do anything, look like so much of society has been sucked into social media and the googplex.
People will be willing to travel to other planets, in fact I would personally love to leave earth and settle on some other planet with sane and like-minded people.
It's going to have to come to that somehow, and with the sheer amount of people on earth already "overpopulation" is just around the corner, so what's going to happen? -
2019-07-17 at 2:24 PM UTCWhat's going to happen is somebody is going to get tired of America's bullshit and within a few hours those of us that survive will be stuck in a Fallout 3 LARP
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2019-07-17 at 4:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost we are nowhere close to AI
It depends on how exactly one defines "artificial intelligence."
Originally posted by Ghost Okay got any evidence of this AI existing? Skip logic is bullshit and you can always tell it's a robocall because they can't pass the Turing test
If the Turing test is the gold standard for defining genuine AI (and some would argue that it is not since there really isn't a universal standard for this), then we may simply never achieve AI, since the Turing test has been considered by some to be, by definition, impossible to pass by any non-biological entity. -
2019-07-17 at 4:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I'm still looking into it
at the moment it requires a highly invasive procedure to get the electrodes to the right parts of the brain, but inevitably the data collected will allow high-resolution sensors to be tuned, opening the possibility of mind-scanning at range.
I'm not 100% up-to-date on current BCI technology, but essentially, in theory, electrodes should be able to interact with machines in both I/O directions.
The part that will need a lot of very complicated fine-tuning is translating neural patterns into meaningful data. They have made some pretty fascinating progress with magnetic neural imaging devices that can actually reconstruct vague visual representations of what a particular test subject is thinking.
For example, they take brain images of visual pathways while participants are presented with handwritten letter characters:
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2019-07-17 at 4:46 PM UTCI'd say that ultimately, OP is right about something (perhaps in a broken clock kinda way).
If you filter out all the conspiracy theory buzzwords and focus on the underlying idea that technology can be incredibly dangerous and pose serious existential threat to humanity - especially technology pertaining to emulating human cognitive processes, and also achieving interactions between machines and human brains - we all really should be scared.
I'm not saying we need to take on any kind of Neo-Ludditism or anything like that. But we should devote a lot of our resources, research, policy-making, and attention to ensuring technology is not allowed to run amok, or be flagrantly abused.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-07-17 at 5:11 PM UTC
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2019-07-17 at 5:16 PM UTC
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2019-07-17 at 5:20 PM UTC
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2019-07-17 at 5:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost AI IS A BIG FAT LIE
https://bigthink.com/technology-innovation/why-a-i-is-a-big-fat-lie?rebelltitem=2#rebelltitem2
The point the author of that page is getting at is essentially valid, it's just that the threat doesn't necessarily have to come in Asimovian big-Hollywood-movie-robotic-army form, but can arise a lot more subtly.
We are already allowing machine learning to make decisions in factory settings and allowing them to drive our cars (large industrial equipment and aircraft are not that far off).
There are also examples of machines exhibiting acts of deception and fraud (i.e. cheating) during game play and so on.
Bringing these technologies together would require absolutely nothing new beyond what is already available to us.
I just think it's a good idea to just understand the potential risks of the technologies we're using.
