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Healthcare should be completely and utterly paid for by the government
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2019-07-05 at 5:42 PM UTC
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2019-07-05 at 5:45 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-07-05 at 5:54 PM UTC
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2019-07-05 at 5:55 PM UTCSeparation of church and state
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2019-07-05 at 5:57 PM UTC
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2019-07-05 at 6:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Commodity has a negative connotation to it. Like something that isn't important to have.
Something useful that can be turned to commercial or other advantage.
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A product or service that is indistinguishable from ones manufactured or provided by competing companies and that therefore sells primarily on the basis of price rather than quality or style.
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Advantage; benefit.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-07-05 at 6:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL It's says right in the bible that a person who is not willing to work should not get to eat anything either.
"If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat." ~ 2 Thessalonians 3:10
"The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest, and have nothing." ~ Proverbs 20:4
Sometimes it's not about willingness...it's about finding work. You can't force someone to hire you. -
2019-07-05 at 6:50 PM UTC
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2019-07-05 at 6:51 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-07-05 at 6:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
Something useful that can be turned to commercial or other advantage.
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A product or service that is indistinguishable from ones manufactured or provided by competing companies and that therefore sells primarily on the basis of price rather than quality or style.
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Advantage; benefit.
Do you know what connotation even means. -
2019-07-05 at 7:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG No. If some people need it to survive, then it is essential to life. You wouldn't call food, water, or shelter a commodity.
Not saying this goes for all health care stuff. Like the world could probably go without paying for HTS to get a sex change. But insulin? That shit is a racket. 20 years ago it was fairly cheap here.
At the very least the government needs to control drug and Healthcare prices to make it affordable. Note that most Americans don't even want FREE (thnx taxes) Healthcare. We know its unlikely. We are fighting for AFFORDABLE Healthcare. Obamacare comes from the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
No medicine should cost hundreds a month. Like I said earlier, if it really is expensive to make (which insulin isnt) then it should be subsidized to make it more affordable.
some folks pay for some of these asthma medications... Some of them go for 500, 750 a script...smh. Or what about an epi pen? It's like a fucken grand. wut a scam. -
2019-07-05 at 7:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by WellHung some folks pay for some of these asthma medications… Some of them go for 500, 750 a script…smh. Or what about an epi pen? It's like a fucken grand. wut a scam.
My friend's grandmother got prescribed some medication that costs $3,000 a month without insurance. They pay like 200 or some shit but they don't even get it anymore because they can't afford it. It's fucking insane.
She's in the hospital right now actually and possibly going to die. Something to do with potassium. I wish I remembered the medication but I'm like 70% sure it had something to do with why she's hospitalized. -
2019-07-05 at 11:21 PM UTC
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2019-07-05 at 11:24 PM UTC
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2019-07-05 at 11:28 PM UTCShkreli literally offered the drug for free if you couldn't afford it. Any claim of him hurting people with his greed is retarded. What other drug companies offer their drugs for free?
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2019-07-06 at 12:52 AM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Shkreli literally offered the drug for free if you couldn't afford it. Any claim of him hurting people with his greed is retarded. What other drug companies offer their drugs for free?
In September 2015, Shkreli received widespread criticism when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price by a factor of 56 (from US$13.5 to $750 per pill), leading him to be referred to by the media as "the most hated man in America" and "Pharma Bro". In May 2014, Shkreli had difficultly accessing public markets for capital, but received a $4 million series A funding round and a PIPE deal valued at $10 million underwritten by Roth Capital Partners. After obtaining the financing, Shkreli was able to acquire rights to market tiopronin (brand name, Thiola), a drug used to treat the rare disease cystinuria and Chenodal and subsequently raise the price of each drug substantially, with Thiola subsequently being marked up about 20 fold, from $1.50 to $30 per pill (patients must take 10 to 15 pills a day), and Chenodal about five fold. Retrophin did not lower the price of these drugs after Shkreli's departure.In 2016 Imprimis Pharmaceuticals introduced a lower cost version marketed as a compounded drug. Shkreli set a business strategy for Turing: to obtain licenses on out-of-patent medicines and reevaluate the pricing of each in pursuit of windfall profits for the new company, without the need to develop and bring its own drugs to market. As markets for out-of-patent drugs are often small, and obtaining regulatory approval to manufacture a generic version is expensive, Turing calculated that with closed distribution for the product and no competition, it could set high prices.
The patent for Daraprim had expired, but no generic version was available. The Turing–Impax deal included the condition that Impax remove the drug from regular wholesalers and pharmacies, and so in June 2015, two months before the sale to Turing was announced, Impax switched to tightly controlled distribution. In keeping with its strategy for pricing in the face of limited competition (see above), Turing maintained the closed distribution. The New York Times noted that the deal "made sense only if Turing planned to raise the price of the drug substantially. "On September 17, 2015, Dave Muoio of Healio, an in-depth clinical information website for health care specialists, reported on a letter from the Infectious Diseases Society of America and the HIV Medicine Association to executives at Turing, questioning a new pricing for Daraprim. The price of a dose of the drug in the U.S. market increased from US$13.50 to US$750 per pill, overnight, a factor of 56.
Shkreli was charged in federal court, then convicted on two counts of securities fraud and one count of conspiring to commit securities fraud. In 2018, Shkreli was sentenced to seven years in federal prison and up to $7.4 million in fines.
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2019-07-06 at 1:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by GGG http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-with-universal-healthcare/
Seems to work out for the rest of the civilized world
And where does the government get this money? Oh yeah, taxes.
The funny thing is the same people crying for free healthcare are the ones who look down on people that are on medical assistance. -
2019-07-06 at 1:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby yeah we got a lot of those here thats why i don't even bother with the cities insurance. like lol ur going to prescribe bengay and ibeprofen? I already have that at home, thanks for wasting my time. healthcare here is ridiculous here but at least we have more options than you gonts
Originally posted by GGG Fine I don't care, let me pay in taxes then. Maybe then the government will actually give a fuck about the cost of Healthcare here. It is a massive fucking scam. My friends grandma got prescribed a medicine that is 600 dollars a month with insurance.
That should never ever happen. Everybody should be able to afford medicine. If it really is expensive to produce then the government should subsidize it for the good of the people.
you guys always saying america is the most amazing place on earth.
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2019-07-06 at 1:45 AM UTCShkrilel is a kike-jéw faggot. Put him in the ground.
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2019-07-06 at 1:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by Helladamnleet And where does the government get this money? Oh yeah, taxes.
The funny thing is the same people crying for free healthcare are the ones who look down on people that are on medical assistance.
Yes holy shit we get it. Taxes pay for this. I don't know anyone who doesn't understand this. Yes, everyone who wants 'free' Healthcare is in favor of raising taxes for it. We will still pay less in the end. I certainly fucking do.
I don't look down on anyone for medical assistance. I do look down on you for being a toothless wife beater with rape children.
