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2015-10-12 at 11:20 AM UTCThe paranormal activity has been seen and experienced by everyone in the house, including a person who stayed with us briefly and disnt believe in that shit. The voices usually are of family member, though I have heard unidentifiable voices rarely. She and that guy heard me and my grandmother talking, yet they both went inside and we were sound asleep across the house from each other. Ive heard my husband when he was gone and seen someone who appeared to be him by build (there was a curtain, and I was someone through where it was pulled up slightly and the shadow). Shit has gone missing, writing has mysteriously produced itself and this was after I first found it and was feet away sitting on the stairs with my husband, there was no possible way anyone did it. Id believe I was going crazy if other people (outsiders besides §m£ÂgØL) hadnt seen, heard or felt it too. It started writing shit on the dry erase board days before §m£ÂgØL came down the first time. I really wish it was just all in my head because this shit gets freaky as fuck at times. Losing my child and dogs is my biggest fear, but Ive witnessed more death than probably anyone here in the last 5 years alone. §m£ÂgØL isnt coming to live here, hes got his own life to figure out.
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2015-10-12 at 12:35 PM UTC
It started writing shit on the dry erase board
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2015-10-12 at 2:48 PM UTC
I wonder how feasible it is to use directional microwaves as a murder weapon, whether you could literally cook someone's brain in their skull, or at least their eyeballs. It would be pretty hardcore.
There's this, which is a similar concept, except it isn't intended to kill people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System
Dang, well, eyeballs, maybe, which is still pretty cool. I'm not knowledgeable on this subject, I don't know whether using a lower frequency would allow you to penetrate deep enough. I also don't know how difficult or expensive it would be to acquire something to generate them and the kind of directional panel needed, along with the power requirements.
But, my god would this be a magnificent terrorist/serial killer weapon for striking fear into the hearts of men and causing societal panic. Imagine random people in a crowd, even entire groups, suddenly shrieking and collapsing in pain, then their eyes literally bursting.
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2015-10-12 at 3:07 PM UTCyeah, that's theory on the ADS he was referring to.
last I checked, the americans had built riot suppression vehicles, truck-mounted microwave transmitters that were powerful enough to cause serious burns if concentrated on a person for several minutes, but the process was slow enough (likely by design) that people had plenty of time to get out of the way before BAD THING HAPPAN (again, same project).
both russians and americans have recently unveiled microwave transmitters designed to incapacitate or destroy drones - russia's unit appears to be more powerful, boasting they can bring down drones up to 10 miles (16 kilometres I think?) away. I wouldn't want to stand in front of that thing. -
2015-10-12 at 4:07 PM UTCHmm, disabling/destroying electronics. This could be very useful for crime...
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2015-10-12 at 4:21 PM UTC
Sophie, you should do this on the places you frequent. You indulge in the vicarious and voyeuristic enjoyment of murder/violence and suffering, right?
That depends. If there's a killing spree thread on Masterchan or 8chan though i'll be sure to mention it. -
2015-10-13 at 1:36 AM UTCInInn it's like I'm taking 4 clon8d8nes just to go back to sleep every t8me I'm socpisssed4bedausebbecno withdrawal pain made m blow my nose and now my entire left nostril is completely collapsed WHY ISN'T THIS CLONIDINE EVEN INCAPSCITAFTING ME FOR LONGER THSN AN HOUR I'M WI FUCKING PISSED
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2015-10-13 at 2:10 AM UTCCalm down Roshambo.
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2015-10-13 at 4:03 AM UTC
Provides a good opportunity for intelligence/knowledge arbitrage in a way. Lanny, you're in the tech sector, have you ever considered this? Something tech related? Well, I suppose you already make enough and are in a field you genuinely love, making it less alluring.
Very smart people spend a lot of time trying to model social trends (basically what we're talking about here, you can't find success and copy it because ripoffs are, in general, poorly received so you have to anticipate market demands in a market that doesn't know what it wants) and the best results are pretty marginal. In fact the whole "data driven business model" which is the latest tech craze (following shortly after the "big data" jerkoff session) has largely failed to produce results beyond producing conferences and jobs that don't do anyone much good. Maybe some day someone will be successful but as soon as they are they'll exploit it, make a bunch of money, and the generated content will quickly take on an air of cheapness because it can be reliably produced. I kinda hate Paul Grahm (probably said that before) but he's pretty much right in this: in the internet era where content creation is trivially inexpensive the winning bet it to invest widely and early in the anticipation that a majority of endeavors will fail but one or more will be a sufficient success to buoy up the rest of your losses. It's well established that the profits of one highly successful tech endeavor can support angel investment in hundreds of others and that ratio is probably even more extreme for things like youtube content creation.
Anyway, yeah, I actually did trend modeling for a bit although not really in the public arena and I'm not going to go back for any amount of money. It was interesting enough work but the level of douchiness surrounding it is intolerable. If I just wanted to make a lot I'd be a quant. Actually high frequency trading is a minor fetish of mine and those niggers and absurd amounts (although they live under pretty intense stress and have a lot of turnover) so hopefully I'll get to do that one day. The amount of capital they handle though is impressive, it will probably be a little while before anyone hires me for that.
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2015-10-13 at 4:10 AM UTCDear diary:
Feels kind of strange that we're having weather in the 70s, even days in the low 80s, this late into the year. I know we have many members in the south, so unfortunately I don't feel as exclusively fortunate. Then again, we don't have to deal with hurricanes, tornadoes, snow, rainy seasons/large amounts of rain, insects, excessive heat during some periods, or high humidity. The Bay Area is generally considered as having the best weather in the country. Come to think of it, it's kind of strange that we avoid so many negative things.
Christ it must suck living in cold places and where it rains all the time. Well, if you stay indoors all the time I suppose many of these things don't matter as much, and the sound of rain is soothing. Although, you would miss out on the superior benefits of sun exposure of sufficient strength, the much greater vitamin d production, which lasts twice as long as dietary, and possibly other phytochemicals, along with beneficial effect on circadian rythm regulation and ceasing melatonin production (wakefulness promoting, reduces sleepiness).
Took 70mg opium about 30 minutes ago, thought it best to trial it before the rare days when I may actually do something outside, in case I don't react well and am incapacitated/would strongly prefer not to go outside in that state. May be feeling a sense of relaxation setting in which is different from what I experienced on etizolam, and so far not as good. If 100mg isn't sufficient I'm just going to vaporize it for maximum efficiency and then order poppy seeds if I want more.
I may also be starting to noticing interesting effects from the vitamin k (mk-7 via nattokinase) and loading doses of vitamin k (10K first day, 15k the next. You can go up to 15k and seems to work well if you're deficient). Definite libido increase when I woke up (morning wood is associated with the natural diurnal rythm of testosterone levels, there's a sharp spike early in the morning before waking), which I've noticed before, along with a mood and energy increase. Felt oddly anxious when I awoke, may have been the relatively excessive energy levels compared to before and a desire to move, or possibly from some dreams/REM sleep I had experienced, vitamin d can have a negative effect on sleep quality/deep sleep if taken too late. -
2015-10-13 at 4:25 AM UTCLol, forget the body cam on the next spree shooter. I want to see hydro go slowly insane. Hey, hey, hydro, you're probably actually going insane (I know it's a joke but I swear to god, read your posts and tell me it doesn't sound like schizophrenia) but you won't believe it. But you'll have doubts because no reasonable person will believe you. Get a body cam, attach it to yourself, and just live with it for a few days. I guarantee you if you watch it you'll see yourself writing shit on your whiteboard (or else the writing will stop all together because you wouldn't do something to give yourself away during a psychotic bout). Seriously, you have nothing to lose, and if it turns out it reallys is ghosts or whatever you can sell the footage to one of those shitty history channel shows, either way you have nothing to lose (if your crazy and you find out at least you'll know) and you'll learn the truth. Isn't that something worth doing?
Bay Area is generally considered as having the best weather in the country. Come to think of it, it's kind of strange that we avoid so many negative things.
Always hot in the fall. It freaked me out a bit when I first moved up here, I swear it's hotter in september/october than it is in july.
On an unrelated note, you mentioned the idea of personal identity, or specifically the denial of an identity relation across time. I'm not sure if you've thought through the implications of that position (the SEP article on personal identity is fascinating) but one interesting aspect is that you, in each moment, are an agent who has been placed in a position by an entity with only a marginal relationship to you. Every time you go to the grocery store or find yourself in literally any situation you're like a soldier sent to war by a general or an inmate put in prison, you've never chosen to be where you are and living under the circumstances you are. It brings up an interesting question though, which is whether or not you trust the person who put you where you are. Like every bad thing that's happened to you was caused by the same group of people (you) that put you here now. And some decisions are really far reaching, like I'm still living out a plan formed and executed by a child, as are most people (ala "I want to be a <X> when I grow up"). It's interesting to think about, like every time you do something well it's because someone else handed you the tools to do that, and every time you fail it's because you were sent on the equivalent of a suicide mission. -
2015-10-13 at 5:31 AM UTCI'm hungry as shit so I'm drinking apple cider vinegar and trying to distract myself by repeat posting I guess.
I started browsing r/earthporn and related subs lately, great during a trip and nice for the ole wallpaper folder. Reminded me of where I used to live, an island but there was this little island, about the size of a football field just off the coast at one point, at low tide there was probably only 30 feet or so of water between the main island and this island. It was called forbidden island but there wasn't anything particularly forbidden about it, it was just kinda tricky to get to since you had to hike a couple of miles from the nearest road when ended at the top of a cliff and descend several hundred feet. Switchbacks most of the way but at one point you actually had to climb down ~20 feet of rock face, but there was a rope and footholds and such. Kinda surprising I was allowed to hike it when I was a kid but whatever. A few people died there, but always from trying to cross on a falling tide when the currents were strongest like retards. Here's a pic of it:
It looks like a spit of land but there's actually water flowing there, you descended along the ridge to the right. Anyway, that place was fucking awesome, aside from the coolest hike down (like I said, repelling, switchbacks, cliffs, lack of a trail in some places, none of the paved path bullshit that passes for hiking in the US) there was all kinds of crazy natural shit down there. You could hike along the bottom towards the photographer in that picture to get to a natural blowhole, and if you went out of frame to the right there's this underground cave (you had to climb down a hole that's maybe 5' in diameter) with water that came in from the ocean via an underwater canal. And the island itself was cool as well just by merit of being a fucking island.
Anyway, I've come to the realization that my childhood was wasted on me. I grew up around all that natural beauty but was honestly more interested in computers and urban living when I was there. Now I'm dreaming about doing that hike in the morning, setting up camp and dropping some acid shortly afterwards and peaking right around sunset, having a nice fire going and listening to the waves crash on the stony shore while watching the sunset. I bet I could even catch fish and cook it for dinner. Go exploring the cave systems and swim in the crystal clear waters. I'd probably end up drowning or falling to my death but what a way to go. Fuck, I wanna do that so bad. Most my friends parents were nutty hippy surfers too, I bet they did that shit all the time and I never really appreciated it. That's bullshit, I wish I had an excuse to go back.
Oh man, and then there was managaha:
The abandoned light house a block from where I went to school:
And suicide cliff:
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2015-10-13 at 6:22 AM UTChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_summer
On the subject of the paranormal, it would require a very long post to properly address it and I'm not sure I have the mental energy or motivation. My key points would likely be that we don't know everything, that, no doubt, like many other things (UFOs) the vast majority can be explained and are false, but you only need one to be genuine, and that people make assumptions about the nature of the phenomenon, but if there are genuine instances we don't know what they are and they could be perfectly compatible with the known laws of this universe. Then there's also the cultural/societal aspect, that, realistically, like race, there's a sort of taboo around it and attempting to seriously explore it will likely lead to serious consequences, a strong detrimental impact on your career in academia, your reputation/the perceptions of others, it's much more difficult to get funded and approved, and that due to the general nature of this the proper observation is immensely more difficult and unlikely to occur, we have far less concrete information making a proper study and observation much more difficult to conduct, you'd largely be shooting in the dark. Of course skepticism is justified, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be any attempts at studies made, and accepting that there strong factors negatively effecting this isn't the same as believing there's a grand conspiracy to suppress information.
There's also the issue of the psychological profile of the communities involved in this. There have been studies done on attempting to quantify the traits of conspiracy theorists and, unfortunately, it's about what you'd expect. This leads to an enormous amount of junk, bad data, that you need to wade through and makes it much more difficult to find what you are looking for, a low signal to noise ratio.
I've experienced a few strange things, and it does make you more open about the possibility. I mentioned these on Zoklet a few times, wish I could do a search of the Internet Archive for exact phrases like you can on google so i could just copy paste it. I saw a low flying small UFO one time at night in the backyard of my parent's house in Los Angeles. Highly doubt it was a hallucination as there was nothing occurring at the time that would lead to that and I've never experienced anything like that at any other time. It never gets very dark in major metropolitan areas like that, and I think the light was on or the neighbor's. It was about 10-15 feet up and maybe 2-3 feet in diameter passing near a room and its roof and going over the fence next to it.
Shaped sort of like this, but a bit more squat:
The color was metallic. Anyway, the appearance was very distinct and definitely did not look like something you could buy, it was extremely well made and I could see no source of propulsion or hear any noise. This was also in a poor area, "the ghetto", making it less likely someone would own/purchase something like this, be able to afford it, or interested in doing so. The way it moved was also very distinct, it appeared to move perfectly straight forward, but while doing so was also turning and had a wobbling motion. It's motion was perfectly consistent along its axis. If it was a government device it's odd that it would be in an area like this with such a large population, flying low over people's yards. I remember some time later my sister mentioned that she had seen something at night, she would jump rope regularly, but unfortunately I didn't ask her for more details. I stood transfixed for a few seconds then ran to the door and yelled for everyone to come outside, but when I went back to look I was gone. I wonder what would have happened if I had quickly climbed the fence and tried to grab it (fairly adept at climbing and there was a small walnut tree right by it that I had climbed numerous times before to get onto the fence or roof) or thrown something at it. Not sure I'd want to risk dying or losing my hands/arms, but god, what a rare and extremely valuable opportunity that could be, just imagine if you succeeded somehow.
Another time was during middle school. It began early (fucking goddamn bastards, and right during puberty, a period of rapid growth and development) and I would get dressed in the walk in closet but would also spend as many minutes as I could get away with sitting down and trying to rest or catch a quick nap, or enter what I call "pseudo-sleep". I began noticing an odd change in the "atmosphere", which made me feel somewhat anxious, but it was distinct feeling I haven't felt since. I didn't think much of it, but some time later I asked my brother to help me with a stupid idea for a fake thread I wanted to make on the paranormal/conspiracy board of Gamefaqs I liked reading at the time. Took them with a cheap digital camera, they still weren't very advanced at that time, and I noticed something strange in them:
The originals may have looked clearer, I'm not sure. I checked the closet, I don't think anything had been moved, and there was nothing there that that seemed it could have produced that. Of course I took into account that they may have been artifacts due to low light conditions, but I took many pictures in other dark areas to test this and nothing like this appeared. Strange artifacts that looked vaguely humanoid or at least face like (I'm aware of pareidolia). Here's one I took afterward, there were others, but I only kept the best:
I think I may have taken multiple pictures, possible used the feature that would take multiple in rapid succession (burst mode), and the artifacts would remain consistent in them, except moving throughout a short distance as if they were in motion. Nothing could be perceived with the naked eye, at least I never noticed anything, and I never experienced any phenomena other than this visual phenomenon that would appear in these digital pictures (I don't have any theory as to why this would occur, nothing comes to mind), nothing auditory, tactile, or telepathic, didn't notice things being moved, although I likely wouldn't have noticed this as it and the thought of making an observation to see whether it was occurring didn't cross my mind. Oh, and the camera didn't have flash.
Eventually they stopped appearing. Some time later I felt the same feeling in another small closet I had felt in the first closet while this was occurring, the unnerving change in atmosphere, and on that hunch I decided to take pictures:
Shortly afterward it disappeared completely and I never experienced it again. Could what I felt have been me somehow sensing whatever causing this? The world may never know. -
2015-10-13 at 6:37 AM UTC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_summer
On the subject of the paranormal, it would require a very long post to properly address it and I'm not sure I have the mental energy or motivation. My key points would likely be that we don't know everything, that, no doubt, like many other things (UFOs) the vast majority can be explained and are false, but you only need one to be genuine, and that people make assumptions about the nature of the phenomenon, but if there are genuine instances we don't know what they are and they could be perfectly compatible with the known laws of this universe. Then there's also the cultural/societal aspect, that, realistically, like race, there's a sort of taboo around it and attempting to seriously explore it will likely lead to serious consequences, a strong detrimental impact on your career in academia, your reputation/the perceptions of others, it's much more difficult to get funded and approved, and that due to the general nature of this the proper observation is immensely more difficult and unlikely to occur, we have far less concrete information making a proper study and observation much more difficult to conduct, you'd largely be shooting in the dark. Of course skepticism is justified, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be any attempts at studies made, and accepting that there strong factors negatively effecting this isn't the same as believing there's a grand conspiracy to suppress information.
Only needs one to be genuine for what? For beleiving hydro's house is haunted? For actually taking action on any specific unconfirmed account? No, I think you need more than one case of genuine unexpected phenomena to justify any element of a given ghost story or conspiracy theory. If someone wants to investigate paranormal activity then fine, but seeing as it's a largely unfalsifiable hypothesis (how exactly do I prove ghosts or whatever do not, universally, exist?) and experience suggests you have a better chance of curing cancer by throwing darts I can't see a compelling reason to fund research into the usual fare that gets touted as supernatural. You're the one who's always saying stereotypes somehow codify cultural wisdom somehow, and it's hard to argue the paranormal investigative community isn't full to the brim with lunatics and has squarely failed to produce any compelling evidence for... well... anything so maybe we really are justified in dismissing these things more or less off the bat. -
2015-10-13 at 7 AM UTC
Only needs one to be genuine for what? For beleiving hydro's house is haunted? For actually taking action on any specific unconfirmed account?
Of course not. Only one needs to be proven genuine to demonstrate that...hmm, well, I suppose it's not like proving a species of animal exists. There would be difficulty in defining what exactly you had discovered and whether other phenomena were of the same nature. But it would demonstrate that this is well worth studying.unfalsifiable hypothesis (how exactly do I prove ghosts or whatever do not, universally, exist?) and experience suggests you have a better chance of curing cancer by throwing darts I can't see a compelling reason to fund research into the usual fare that gets touted as supernatural. You're the one who's always saying stereotypes somehow codify cultural wisdom somehow, and it's hard to argue the paranormal investigative community isn't full to the brim with lunatics and has squarely failed to produce any compelling evidence for… well… anything so maybe we really are justified in dismissing these things more or less off the bat.
You could argue that universal quantification applies to anything. Once again there would be an issue in defining what exactly a "ghost" is, but it could lead to far superior methods of observation that could allow you to gather data on what was occurring in a certain area, a sort of "ghost" detector.
See, this is a common problem with rationalists, not that I'm against rationalism, but you go too far and dismiss the possibility that there could be anything of value to ideas like this, that there's any reason to study it, while not properly taking into account the genuine systemic biases and other problems I mentioned.
I don't know what an ideal study would be like, what methods it would use, but a very high quality study, or something based off a novel theory with merit, would be worth doing IMO. As I said there's just such an immense amount of data, the vast majority junk, that it's very difficult to find what you need. As with UFOs it would be best to start with the highest quality cases and see whether there's anything of particular value that can be gleamed from them. -
2015-10-13 at 7:32 AM UTCCalm down Malice ghosts don't exist. Why? Because we know all traits ghosts must possess to be qualified as a ghost can only exist within a living person. The hunt for aliens is pretty much covered by SETI, NASA and assorted exobiologists etc.
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2015-10-13 at 8:24 AM UTCMaybe what's commonly referred to as "ghosts" aren't what we think it is?
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2015-10-13 at 12:09 PM UTChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzblSDNaaXU
Oh, this is so stupid. Childhood stupidity has a special type of hilarity to it. Trolling/griefing children in Minecraft, late night guilty pleasure hour. -
2015-10-13 at 12:38 PM UTCLanny, I never thought about a body cam, but when about a month or so before the writing on the dry eraseboard I thought about getting a small camera to hide since shit had been mysteriously disapearing and I wanted to see who was doing it. The second encounter happened feet away from me with my now Exhusband next to me. If this is me going crazy, then it was happening to everyone around me with the same 'hallucinations' or whatever you wanna call it. Im too poor and have a baby to spend every spare cent on now, else I would. Well, my exhusband finally left this morning to WA. Its been a relief since all he wanted to do before he left was fight and argue. He called me everyname in the book, even though I was the one to pay for his ticket since hes too much of a shitbag to have even done that. My grandmother who is amissing person has yet to show up and I havent heard anything from the police either. YaY! For my life!
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2015-10-13 at 1:03 PM UTCHow big is your house? Couldn't you rent out rooms at least to generate some income?
