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City of Baltimore got ransomeware..
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2019-05-12 at 9:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL A ransomware attack has struck the Baltimore city government computer network.
On Twitter, Baltimore Mayor Bernard Young said the city has shut down most of its servers due to the infection, but critical services, including EMS, police, fire, and 311, are still operational.
"City employees are working diligently to determine the source and extent of the infection," Young wrote. "At this time, we have seen no evidence that any personal data has left the system."
Meanwhile, the Baltimore Department of Public Works (DPW) tweeted that email service and phone lines to customer support are also down.
"For now we're unable to take calls to discuss water billing issues," the Baltimore DPW wrote. The government office has consequently suspended late water bill fees for city and county customers.
"Employees of the City's Finance Department are … telling people that, due to the network outage, they can't conduct business or pay bills today with cash," the Baltimore DPW added.
This is the second ransomware attack to hit Baltimore city systems in a little over a year. In March 2018, ransomware struck the city's 911 dispatch system, but Baltimore's IT office managed to isolate the threat and avoid a disruption of critical services.
Ransomware encrypts a computer's data and threatens to delete it unless the victim pays up.
Oh shit this happened before and they still got bit, lol.
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2019-05-12 at 9:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc Doesn't stop people claiming they can for the right price tho.
If you wanted to be real sneaky then ransom up the city asking for a million, then come forward as just some random nerd offering to fix the problem for 50k. Get the money and hero status when you magically find a way to fix their problem.
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Except everyone who knows how encryption works would see right through your scheme, silly. You're going to have to homebrew the algo and the first rule of crypto is you don't homebrew it. But if you're gonna do it anyway, you might want to make it weak on purpose, so you can say you hacked together a decryptor. But if you make the algo weak on purpose half decent cyborgs will be able to build a decryptor as well. -
2019-05-12 at 9:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Except everyone who knows how encryption works would see right through your scheme, silly. You're going to have to homebrew the algo and the first rule of crypto is you don't homebrew it. But if you're gonna do it anyway, you might want to make it weak on purpose, so you can say you hacked together a decryptor. But if you make the algo weak on purpose half decent cyborgs will be able to build a decryptor as well.
Seeing through it and proving isn't necessarily the same thing tho. But yeah of course they're not gonna be too gullible to that. You'd still have to be pretty smart to pull it off.
Anyway all I'm saying is keeping the ransom lower and not being a greedy idiot works better is all. Its the same with kidnapping, you ask for stupid money and they immediately start looking towards how to get their person back without losing crazy amounts of money, like getting the cops involved. Ask for 50k and any millionaire who cares anything for the victim will pay it quick to get the ordeal over without any problems.
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2019-05-13 at 3:02 AM UTCBack up the data and don't pay them shit.
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2019-05-13 at 3:51 AM UTCGotta remember that the government people involved here are literally dumb as tree stumps. It may be that they just got a screen saying all their data was now encrypted, but it really wasn't. They're so stupid they would just see the screen and declare an emergency and start shutting down services and then pass it off to the network operations center, who would then play along just so they could come out looking like the heroes who saved the day. That's the real world we live in now. Run by genuine idiots. You can't take anything they claim at face value.
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2019-05-13 at 4:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Well yes and no. If you target a big organization's mission critical infrastructure you can get away with asking for a lot, since it's likely cheaper to pay the ransom than risk being non-operational for God knows how many days.
It always depends on how much the ransom costs vs. How much money will be lost due to bwing not operational for however long it would take to replace whatever was lost... Assuming it can be replaced.
However paying doesn't guarantee that your data will be recovered. You are dealing with criminals who are ransoming your data... They could decide to be even bigger dickheads and not give you a way to get your data back.
How the fuck do these large companies and shit not have offline, secure backups of their most important data at the least? Idiots. -
2019-05-13 at 8:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Gotta remember that the government people involved here are literally dumb as tree stumps. It may be that they just got a screen saying all their data was now encrypted, but it really wasn't. They're so stupid they would just see the screen and declare an emergency and start shutting down services and then pass it off to the network operations center, who would then play along just so they could come out looking like the heroes who saved the day. That's the real world we live in now. Run by genuine idiots. You can't take anything they claim at face value.
Could be city officials that installed the ransomware and have control of the btc wallet that the 70k of public funds will go to "remove" it. Wouldn't be the first time corrupt officials robbed the people.
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2019-05-13 at 8:50 AM UTCI mean it does seem seriously dumb that they've fallen for this twice now.
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2019-05-13 at 10:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie No. The bottom line is always the most important for any business. The FBI actually advises to pay the ransom.
Wrong. Atlanta paid 2.6 mil to fix a $50,000 ransomware attack. They did not pay the “ransom”. Soi is right, they will not bow to terrorists.
https://www.wired.com/story/atlanta-spent-26m-recover-from-ransomware-scare/ -
2019-05-13 at 10:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Wrong. Atlanta paid 2.6 mil to fix a $50,000 ransomware attack. They did not pay the “ransom”. Soi is right, they will not bow to terrorists.
https://www.wired.com/story/atlanta-spent-26m-recover-from-ransomware-scare/
Yeah businesses are the way to go. Everyday their systems are down its losing them money and customers so they can't afford not to pay. Could you imagine say vodaphone losing millions of dollars and customers for the sake of 50k? No chance.
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2019-05-13 at 10:22 AM UTCIf a business has the money to fix the problem, I imagine they’d fix it. Who’d pay a ransom, knowing they could just do it again. They’re going to have to pay to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
These hackers think they’re something special till they get shut down. They’re just cowards that need to feel control because they have no control in their lives. -
2019-05-13 at 10:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Wrong. Atlanta paid 2.6 mil to fix a $50,000 ransomware attack. They did not pay the “ransom”. Soi is right, they will not bow to terrorists.
https://www.wired.com/story/atlanta-spent-26m-recover-from-ransomware-scare/
I'd dig up the post of the FBI literally telling people to pay the ransom. But you're a fucking special kind of stupid. -
2019-05-13 at 10:27 AM UTCYou know what fuck you
https://securityledger.com/2015/10/fbis-advice-on-cryptolocker-just-pay-the-ransom/ -
2019-05-13 at 10:27 AM UTCAww poor Sophie can’t take being wrong.
You’re a special kind of scum. -
2019-05-13 at 10:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Wrong. Atlanta paid 2.6 mil to fix a $50,000 ransomware attack. They did not pay the “ransom”. Soi is right, they will not bow to terrorists.
https://www.wired.com/story/atlanta-spent-26m-recover-from-ransomware-scare/
Also. Atlanta is not a business, i literally mentioned businesses. -
2019-05-13 at 10:29 AM UTC
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2019-05-13 at 10:31 AM UTCI ain’t touching your link kiddie fucker.
Whore? Yeah that’s me! 😂😂 -
2019-05-13 at 10:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist If a business has the money to fix the problem, I imagine they’d fix it. Who’d pay a ransom, knowing they could just do it again. They’re going to have to pay to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
These hackers think they’re something special till they get shut down. They’re just cowards that need to feel control because they have no control in their lives.
Well most businesses prolly back up but if they didn't and getting a fix could likely take too long then they'd really have no option but to pay if they want to keep their customer base and future profits intact.
Imagine having to explain to all your shareholders and investors that you've lost all their money because half your customers have fucked off coz you wouldn't pay 50k to keep business up and running and all their personal info safe.
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2019-05-13 at 10:34 AM UTC
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2019-05-13 at 10:36 AM UTCCompared to an ignorant pedo, I’m superior in every way. You are trash that should be hung up by you balls.