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2016-03-04 at 9:44 PM UTC
Pfft, what are you some kind of neckbeard gearqueer?
We're talking about the most likely, ultimate survival scenario. You're going to be driving through Death Valley Desert 100 miles away from civilization with nothing in you car, which you manage to drive off a cliff like a dumbass after it gets struck by lighting during a hurricane, sustaining horrible injuries all over your body. You will have to survive for 72 hours using only your wits and minimal gear.
You and easy play pretend survivalist by actually having "supplies," but that's because you're fucking pussies. Only us true survivalists have endured real scenarios.
You will have to find clean water, so hobble out of your car with nothing but tattered clothes and start digging a hole in the (desert) ground with a cactus needle. After you've dug thirty miles into the earth's crust, you might find a dinosaur fossil that you can suck on for sustenance. While you're digging, you need to cut off your finger and use it as bait in a super reliable trap that is based off the documentary "Roadrunner and Wiley Coyote."
By the way, all of this is being done after you've sustained a concussion from the accident, so good luck. If you were just the awesome survivalist like we are and not some kind of faggot neckbeard zombie survivalist edgelord, you'd make it.
Are you captian falcon arguing with himself? When you say "we're talking about the most likely ultimate surival scenario" that conflicts with everything you have posted about planning and carrying exorbitant amounts of gear. It looks like you are trying to paradoy CF but you did it the point that it looks like you accidentally posted from the wrong account. -
2016-03-04 at 9:59 PM UTCTraps? Pfff... Y'all are doing it wrong.
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2016-03-04 at 10:02 PM UTCI'm getting fucking panic attacks from how fast he runs into those snakes. Why does such a place exist? Fuck me.
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2016-03-04 at 10:08 PM UTCAll you really need is a nuclear or fusion generator and a cask of robitussin syrup and some meth and glass to blow home made meth pipes maybe a stick of dynamite or two to scare the shit out of people if they try anything you pull it out and say "I'll kill us all"
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2016-03-04 at 10:09 PM UTCFirst thing I would do is smart smelting ores and building a space station
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2016-03-05 at 5:23 AM UTC
Once again, basically most of your post is irrelevant because we're talking about two separate scenarios. Going to build a cabin in the woods and live there for a year is going to require a different set of tools than surviving a car accident. You're simply going to take more gear unless you're some kind of retard or feel like you have something to prove.
I have to admit, I came into this thread purely with the intention of baiting you into some long responses.
You're strawmanning my point. Making it out like I don't know how to survive a scenario like this simply because I described a longer one with more preparation is asinine. I would disagree with your load out anyway. I have a small BoB in my car at all times (it's just a little backpack) that has enough stuff to last me for three days. It weighs less than 27 lbs. You'd be surprised what you reliably fit into it without it being a huge hassle.
No, it's not, you will most likely get fucking sick. This is my point about you guys who are talking shit. You're trying to make this great point about how being a "true" survivalist is just surviving with minimal gear, and yet you don't know how to purify water. Can you do that and get away with that method for a little while? Maybe, if you're at a clean source of fresh water to begin with, which totally defeats the purpose of needing to purify it anyway but so good luck finding an underground spring in the desert (as per your scenario). Also, that method doesn't treat the water for pollutants, which exist en masse in contemporary society (even in the wilderness).
Jesus Christ Falco, you have no idea what you're talking about! Lol, and how are you planning on luring an animal into this "trap?" With the Cliff bars you mentioned? This isn't even a good trap man!
If your scenario of minimal gear and little preparation, you'd be better off making a snare because it requires less gear. Or just eating bugs for protein (which you mentioned, so good on you).
And it's a fair point. But just concede my point was talking about something totally different, which is a denomination of survivalism known as "homesteading."
I agree with you.
Like I said, apples to oranges. I don't think leaving contemporary society to live in a rustic cabin for a year makes me a fat neckbearded wannabe. I mean, I've already been in enough scenarios with little preparation to prove myself my knowledge and skills are accurate. I don't like going out and recreating them by camping. Even then, if you're going out camping, it's not really the same thing because the adrenaline of a real "OH SHIT" scenario makes it totally different.
Not true. Even in your scenario, a bow will get you meat more efficiently than a trap. It's not unrealistic to think you can have one in the trunk of your car.
…Building a cabin out in the woods and transitioning into being self sufficient is not a camping trip, sorry. Totally different. You'll need a lot of shit to help you transition.
tl;dr - Yeah I agree with you that you should learn to survive with minimal stuff because that's the most likely "survival scenario" is one you don't plan for, but the original post is about me moving off the grid for a year and transitioning into self sufficiency and all the gear that I used to get me there. Crashing your car in the desert is not the purpose of this post, and "homesteading" is still a real component of survivalism.
Also, I implore you that the dude's way of purifying water is really a bad method. Spending $13 on a .05 lb water enhancement and keeping it in a backpack in your trunk (with other supplies) so you don't drink motor oil doesn't make you neckbeard.
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2016-03-05 at 5:39 AM UTCCAP'N FALCON IS SAVAGE!!!!
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2016-03-05 at 5:48 AM UTCWhen the world ends I'm heading to the nearest power plant
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2016-03-05 at 5:49 AM UTCJust because all the humans are zombies doesn't mean I can't operate a hydraulic fracturing rig and it will be easier because of lack of government regulation and NIMBY fags
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2016-03-05 at 6:58 AM UTC
I have to admit, I came into this thread purely with the intention of baiting you into some long responses.
Checkmate. :/ -
2016-03-05 at 1:37 PM UTC
Checkmate. :/
That's ok friend, it is not difficult to illicit a long response from you. -
2016-03-05 at 1:44 PM UTC
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2016-03-05 at 9:36 PM UTC
Checkmate. :/
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2016-03-06 at 1:55 AM UTCIs the Tricksy Banterman a cornucopia with a face? Also are cornucopias a useful survival tool?
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2019-05-06 at 10:39 PM UTCI'd tell you some stuff about survival that only elite special forces and spooks know about, but you'd think I was making it up.
So I'll just say, shakelight, fire laces. Extra bulbs/components. I don't worry too much about using a flashlight. And the native americans certainly needed those sturdy boots you know, living in the wilderness. And those guys in the amazon that walk around barefoot all the time, those boots sure came in handy for them too. -
2019-05-06 at 10:59 PM UTC>Picture megathread
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2019-05-06 at 11:12 PM UTChttps://technology.nasa.gov/patent/LEW-TOPS-21
You'd need a lot of copper winding, or some kind of step up transformer, but it's not actually very unreasonable. 100,000 volts or so isn't that difficult. Some magnets and copper wire, and it's pretty simple to get 100k volts. I'd go with a step up transformer, as in an auto ignition coil, primary and secondary winding + reed switches or some other component for generating the pulses. Very simple to make. Doesn't weigh too much.Highly oxidizing water treatments, like ozonation and UV-ionization, have proven useful in removing organics from water, but they require high capital costs and high amounts of wasteful energy consumption. Glenn's approach to water purification uses high-voltage, nanosecond-pulsed, non-equilibrium plasma to treat water. The pulsed electrical discharge destroys micro-organisms in liquid, essentially sterilizing the water, without the use of toxic chemicals or enhancements. The plasma creates highly reactive OH radicals (e.g. hydroperoxl, hydrogen peroxide, super oxide O2) that break down organic contaminants into carbon dioxide and water. The nano-pulses ensure that only enough energy is produced to destroy the contaminant without heating up the water, eliminating the need for cooling loops or downtime that is associated with other processes (such as UV-ionization). NASA's water purification technology relies only on electricity and can be scaled to meet a wide range of needs, from small portable units that purify drinking water in disaster relief to million-gallons-per-day industrial applications. This technology is simple, straightforward, and low cost, with virtually no consumables nor byproducts. Furthermore, the plasma pulse technology can function as a stand-alone purification process or as an add-on to existing solutions as a polishing step.
Yeah, you shouldn't rely on gear, but we live in the modern world. You should practice and gain experience of course before ever having to be in a "survival" scenario. Everyone has their personal preferences. I'm going to add more tips when I can remember stuff. -
2019-05-06 at 11:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kek "OH Civives dont know shit! Hur dur I had basic!"
Special forces don't usually have the same level of arrogance. And their survival training is better than regular infantry. I can't blame them for being arrogant, it's good to be proud of your training and what you know you can do, but again, not everyone has that mentality.
