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Supreme Court rules 5-4 in favor of indefinite detention of non-citizens
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2019-03-20 at 10:14 PM UTC
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2019-03-20 at 10:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Who is the first sentence directed at? I don't think I used the term "deportable", not "to be deported". I don't really see how it being under the original warrant or not is relevant, the reason they're being detained is because, pending a hearing, they are not legal aliens anymore even if they were before.
Fine, and I agree that's not great on a like "this is the kind of country I want to live in" sense, but it's not a violation of 14th amendment rights as it's not indefinite. If ICE is holding people indefinitely, and I certainly don't support that, it's separate from the legal issue the supreme court is ruling on.
I mean I might be willing to go in on the unethical claim (although I can certainly understand the reason for the legislation too) but it doesn't seem unconstitutional to me. "Equal protection" does not grant aliens all the rights citizens or make every law apply to every person. Section 1226 is a law targeted at aliens, the same as any immigration law is, same as something like DACA which presumable you support. The face that we have laws that pertain to aliens but not citizens isn't an equal protections issue.
*Incorrect that they said 'deported' and not 'deportable'. Literally scroll up.
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2019-03-20 at 10:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG *Incorrect that they said 'deported' and not 'deportable'. Literally scroll up.
What?https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/equal_protection
The governing body state must treat an individual in the same manner as others in similar conditions and circumstances
The conditions and circumstances of citizens and immigrants after release because... one group are citizens and have a right to continue to live in the country while the other is not. -
2019-03-20 at 10:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny What?
The conditions and circumstances of citizens and immigrants after release because… one group are citizens and have a right to continue to live in the country while the other is not.
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It doesn't matter if you are here illegally, on a visa, a permanent resident, natural citizen, or whatever. Before this decision, everybody had the same rights unless you were suspected of terrorism. Before the patriot act, everybody had the same rights period.
But now you can get imprisoned for no reason. Just because they're making a decision on whether or not to deport you. -
2019-03-20 at 10:27 PM UTCWhy is getting sent back home such a huge deal to these brown people? lawl
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2019-03-20 at 10:27 PM UTC
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2019-03-20 at 10:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG It doesn't matter if you are here illegally, on a visa, a permanent resident, natural citizen, or whatever. Before this decision, everybody had the same rights unless you were suspected of terrorism. Before the patriot act, everybody had the same rights period.
Again, equal protection is not about everyone in the country having the same rightsBut now you can get imprisoned for no reason. Just because they're making a decision on whether or not to deport you.
"You no longer have a legal right to be in this country" doesn't seem like no reason to me. -
2019-03-20 at 10:29 PM UTC
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2019-03-20 at 10:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Again, equal protection is not about everyone in the country having the same rights
"You no longer have a legal right to be in this country" doesn't seem like no reason to me.
Are you retarded.
You are not imprisoned when you are going to get deported. You are imprisoned when you are deportable. There are people, like in the link above, who were imprisoned and then it was decided not to deport them. These people get locked up for no reason. -
2019-03-20 at 10:32 PM UTC
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2019-03-20 at 10:33 PM UTC
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2019-03-20 at 10:33 PM UTC
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2019-03-20 at 10:34 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-03-20 at 10:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS You don't understand what you're talking about, clearly.
Maybe if they wrote the constitution in Mexican you'd be able to understand it better.
Yeah. Or English or Chinese or Polish or Italian or English or Russian or German or French or Swedish or Japanese or English or Romanian or Dutch. -
2019-03-20 at 10:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Are you retarded.
At least I know what the word "incredulous" means lol.You are not imprisoned when you are going to get deported. You are imprisoned when you are deportable.
I'm not saying anything to the contrary.There are people, like in the link above, who were imprisoned and then it was decided not to deport them. These people get locked up for no reason.
They didn't decide not to deport him though? -
2019-03-20 at 10:39 PM UTC
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2019-03-20 at 10:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG There are people, like in the link above, who were imprisoned and then it was decided not to deport them. These people get locked up for no reason.
Oh no that's awful, imagine if American citizens could be locked up and detained until a trial at which they're found innocent. -
2019-03-20 at 10:41 PM UTC
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