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Where is the line between being a junkie and not?
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2019-03-09 at 4:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny would have carried weight have you been a contributing member of the society.
as a drugaddictuser, what are the positive things that you have contributed to your society ?
Well what positive things has society done for me? Not that you would even know me enough to answer that anyway.
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2019-03-09 at 4:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 I'm lucky, I guess in that I can never see myself as a junkie. First off, I can't stand needles and always turn my head at the doctor's when they bring one out. Secondly, I don't like feeling stupid. I was given some Oxycodone a few years back when I broke my collarbone. They helped with the pain for a few days but I couldn't wait to get off of them. They just made me feel like I had lost half of my brain. I just felt like a moron.
I used to drink quite a bit but never could drink for more than a couple of days before my body required a "time out". I just couldn't sustain being consistently drunk.
IME you have to really try to get high on opioids the first few times you do them. It's been that way with everyone I've known
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2019-03-09 at 4:54 PM UTC
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2019-03-09 at 4:56 PM UTC
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2019-03-09 at 5:10 PM UTC
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2019-03-09 at 5:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by JĎ…icebox IME you have to really try to get high on opioids the first few times you do them. It's been that way with everyone I've known
For whatever reason, they flat out have no effect the first few times
Lol, first time i had opiates i had like 200mg codeine and i was sick as fuck. That didn't deter me however, next time i railed 10mg of oxy. That was dope. Way back when 10mg still did something lol.
Anyway, it's a little like nicotine it sucks for most people the first few times, but once you get hooked it's pretty great. Ain't gonna' lie, after being addicted to fentanyl and kicking it, it's still my favorite drug of all time years later. The shit rewires your brain my nigga. -
2019-03-09 at 5:24 PM UTCYou're a junkie if you're a slave to something, even a slave to yourself. Addiction is all about being a slave. You are not your own master.
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2019-03-09 at 6:14 PM UTC
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2019-03-09 at 6:20 PM UTC
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2019-03-09 at 7:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Obviously not everyone who's ever used opiates qualifies as a "junkie" but in particular separates junkies from others in your mind? We've had and have plenty of opiate users here, most of us have probably known some in real life, one striking thing about the "junkie" label is that no matter how seriously addicted a person is or how many problems their addiction causes them, I've never seen someone seriously describe themselves as a junkie. There's always some thing that junkies do that they don't which separates them.
So what is it to you that makes someone a junkie vs. not?
You're a cockmeat junkie. -
2019-03-09 at 8:08 PM UTC
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2019-03-09 at 8:10 PM UTCAnd of course its much preferable to be a slum retard to being a retarded cock sucking faggot, all day long.
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2019-03-09 at 10:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc Who's fault is that? If it weren't for prohibition your nephew would still be alive now, waking up in the morning, having a quick hit before having a shower and some brekkie then starting his day going off to his job or business. Then at the end of the day and weekends prolly coming home to spend some family time chilling with you all or going out with some pals. May have even had a wife and kids of his own. I guess prohibition has robbed your family of a hell of a lot.
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Narc....my dude. I see you rationalizing your drug use so much. Idk what else you have going on, but do you really think your life hasn't been affected? How many years have you been doing this song and dance now? What do you have to show for any of it? I don't say any of this to try to bash you, but I genuinely know how distorted things get when your brain chemistry being normal is dependent on opiates. The things that finally clicked for me, was that it's a complete dead end road. Opiates never "enriched" my life. They just made it so I didn't want to kill myself for a few hours. I always acknowledged the fact that eventually I'd have to kick heroin and get on with my life. But how many more years are you going to put in. Maybe I just didn't have the dedication, but there was no gold watch at year 10, or anywhere thereafter.
I just see you justifying all the time. And it's weird. No one on this site isn't an addict to something or other.
What has society done for you? Well....you have running water, I assume- that's relatively safe to drink. A place to get food so you don't have to chase it down and kill it. A place to live out of the cold. Medical care when a shot misses and goes accessed. Lights to read by and internet to talk to fellow ne'er do wells across the globe.
It's a complete cop out to say that. Everything we take for granted is there because someone else put in the effort. Sitting in my room every day getting high wasn't just me in a "state of nature, maaaaan". The world goes on around us, and the only reason we're still alive is because someone else did that heavy lifting.
Doesn't mean you need to need to need to make some radical change tomorrow, but at least acknowledge that other people are out being productive, while I'd wager the vast majority of long term drug addicts are not.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-03-09 at 11 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-03-10 at 12:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Says the guy who drives on roads, shops at grocery stores, and enjoys having consistently running water/electricity.
"western civilization is shit just smoke dope"
You're just another slum retard.
I didn't read this, but yeah. Pretty much that. Even if we pay for it, all of those things exist by someone else's labor. God knows if I had to run pressurized water lines from the ocean to a desalinization plant, to my house, I'd be cursing and shoveling turds out of the toilet bowl every few hours because I didn't consider the fact that the drainage lines need a slight downward gradient to allow them to flow properly....or something.
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2019-03-10 at 1:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc You know those piece of shit junkies that rob old grannies and their own families and shit? They were that way inclined before they got using anything. The need for drugs just gives them reason to be their worst. There are many junkies and users that never do anything like that, in fact the majority don't. Most people only get to hear about the shitheads through media and so think they're all like that. Man I know many users that won't even steal or anything and sit there sick as fuck until they manage to scrape a few coins together through some legal means.
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I'd like to think I acknowledged as much in my original post, but yeah. I agree with you maybe. I don't know if that's true 100% of the time. Like there are almost certainly people out there who never had any real cause to be shitty people until addiction/dope sickness drove them to cross a personal boundary. And at that point, I guess it comes down to whether you believe they "always had it in them", and some people don't. Or something.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-03-10 at 1:38 AM UTCPersonally, I'd rather deal with dope sickness than a guilty conscience.
They both feel shitty*, but one is transient, the other permanent.
* Assuming the individual in question has a conscience, but that might be assuming a lot.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-03-10 at 8:42 AM UTC
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2019-03-10 at 12:27 PM UTC
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