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2019-03-07 at 8:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Methuselah But we’re not talking about YOU, or about anyone living today for that matter. We’re talking about future, unborn people that don’t exist and will never exist. So they don’t get to have a voice in the matter.
BUT... What if some radical feminist also happens to invent a time machine, and then, in their haste to defend the issue, goes back like 500 years and somehow managed to render abortion legal and socially acceptable?
(Of course, there's the hilarity of the paradox that HE/SHE THEMSELVES would not be born, and thus the entire space-time continuum would implode and the Big Bang would rapidly reverse until nothing exists, but let's ignore that for now).
It might sound like a silly science fiction hypothetical, but in an age where AI is fast approaching human intelligence, and we're splitting atoms and observing interactions between subatomic particles, genetically modifying living humans, etc...
These hypotheticals aren't just for stoner talks. They represent actual issues with modern technology (abortion being one of those modern technologies). -
2019-03-07 at 8:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks It's not about blindly believing in fate… It's about having a small part of you just kinda nipping at your consciousness from time to time about it.
My point from the get go was never meant to be explicitly anti-abortion. It was just about, at least for me, it can be kinda surreal to argue in favor of something that would mean you wouldn't be here today.
you like to have sex with womb babbies. just say it Chad. -
2019-03-07 at 8:25 AM UTCOk well then pro-choice will have long won this debate and we’d all be too busy arguing about gun rights and immigration to care anymore
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2019-03-07 at 8:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by Nil I thought it was mostly France pushing that campaign.
It was mostly devised by England and France, but the only reason it was successful was massive US involvement. Obongo was actually against it for the most part - Hillary, as secretary of state, forced him to change his tact and the rest is history.
when was the last time you heard a US-proscribed 'tyrant' gloat and laugh about someone being bayonet-raped by terrorists that they created and funded?
I'd support her summary execution even if she didn't have such a long and storied history of war crimes and exploitation. -
2019-03-07 at 8:25 AM UTCi just google image searched BABBY for the first time in my life
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2019-03-07 at 8:26 AM UTCoops
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2019-03-07 at 8:28 AM UTCMy parents said I was an accident
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2019-03-07 at 8:32 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-03-07 at 8:37 AM UTC'Assad the Gas Animal'
To this day it hasn't been proven that the government or army has used chemical weapons in the conflict.
When it's conclusively demonstrated that the (US-backed) rebels have, to the point where Al-Zinki actually said 'we won't do it again', the White House spokesman says 'one instance of chemical weapons use doesn' t make them terrorists'.
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2019-03-07 at 8:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra 'Assad the Gas Animal'
To this day it hasn't been proven that the government or army has used chemical weapons in the conflict.
When it's conclusively demonstrated that the (US-backed) rebels have, to the point where Al-Zinki actually said 'we won't do it again', the White House spokesman says 'one instance of chemical weapons use doesn' t make them terrorists'.
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I thought Assad’s government specifcally wasn’t allowing any third party to verify whether chemical weapons were used or not used.
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2019-03-07 at 8:44 AM UTCAlso lol @ how every time aldra posts it becomes a conversation about mid-east politics. I thought this was about killing babies lulz
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2019-03-07 at 8:45 AM UTC
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2019-03-07 at 8:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks All politics aside…
The idea that if abortion were legal and socially acceptable a century ago I would most certainly not be around today, is kinda hard to take.
The same probably applies to a lot more of us.
It's a hard pill to swallow.
You could say the same thing about rape on a slightly longer timescale. Like a lot of us probably wouldn't exist if not for pervasive rape during war in the classical and medieval periods. -
2019-03-07 at 8:46 AM UTC
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2019-03-07 at 8:47 AM UTCNEGATIVE TRIMESTER LYFE
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2019-03-07 at 8:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny You could say the same thing about rape on a slightly longer timescale. Like a lot of us probably wouldn't exist if not for pervasive rape during war in the classical and medieval periods.
Oh I know, and the same thing occurs to me as well...
Like, if I found out my birth was a direct result of a rape...
Of course I'd in principle, and in personal practice, oppose rape.
But how can I not at least contemplate the fact that such a horrific act is the reason I exist?
Like, if I had the opportunity to go back in time and prevent my biological father from raping my biological mother, would I?
Is a world without me, but with one less rape, better?
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2019-03-07 at 8:56 AM UTCHard pillow to swallow.
