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2016-11-20 at 12:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice I can emulate it in my mind and determine that it isn't worth engaging in.
You can't emulate in your mind the pleasure that is derived from sexual intercourse any more than you could emulate in your mind the pain that results from putting your hand on a hot stove. You have to experience it to experience those feelings. Do whatever you want but saying it's 'not worth engaging in' because you pictured it that way doesn't make sense. Why not experience it one time? What are you afraid of m8? -
2016-11-20 at 12:55 AM UTCYes you can! Theory of mind is an enormous problem for most people. The minds of others, their cognitive abilities, can vary widely! Bring to mind an incredible feat of mind you have witnessed/read about. Could you imagine yourself ever doing that? Well, that doesn't mean it isn't possible because the mind is dependent on material reality, your physical vessel, which arises from your DNA, and that can vary enormously between individuals.
For a Juden, you certainly are simple minded. -
2016-11-20 at 12:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by antinatalism of course, my lovely sophie. I have a senjougahara's pillow (bakemonogatari). tbh it's only sex with senjougahara. my real platonic love is with lain. but I do not want to sully her perfect soul with my sinful and wicked thoughts
Good choice Senjougahara is kawaii desu ne? -
2016-11-20 at 12:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Yes you can! Theory of mind is an enormous problem for most people. The minds of others, their cognitive abilities, can vary widely! Bring to mind an incredible feat of mind you have witnessed/read about. Could you imagine yourself ever doing that? Well, that doesn't mean it isn't possible because the mind is dependent on material reality, your physical vessel, which arises from your DNA, and that can vary enormously between individuals.
For a Juden, you certainly are simple minded.
lol, right, and you just have a superior neurology where you can "emulate" arbitrary sensations on demand that you've never experienced in full fidelity.
Well, it just so happens that I have a mental superpower too. I'm using my amazing unique mind that you can't possibly comprehend to deduce that someone with the power to have arbitrary subjective experiences would be able to emulate the feeling of not suffering from crippling depression and ergo would not be taking ungodly quantities of, often experimental and untested, drugs to try and cure said crippling depression. -
2016-11-20 at 1:02 AM UTCですmakes a sentence declarative, so the use of "is" is wierd
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2016-11-20 at 1:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny ですmakes a sentence declarative, so the use of "is" is wierd
I know i was debating myself whether i should add it but because i wasn't aware if Anti was weeb level over 9000 i figured i would add 'is' for clarity. I know that seems unintuitive but it actually doesn't if you consider the person you are speaking to has less knowledge of the language in general. -
2016-11-20 at 1:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny lol, right, and you just have a superior neurology where you can "emulate" arbitrary sensations on demand that you've never experienced in full fidelity.
Well, it just so happens that I have a mental superpower too. I'm using my amazing unique mind that you can't possibly comprehend to deduce that someone with the power to have arbitrary subjective experiences would be able to emulate the feeling of not suffering from crippling depression and ergo would not be taking ungodly quantities of, often experimental and untested, drugs to try and cure said crippling depression.
Tsk tsk tsk, do you honestly believe the overwhelming majority of my copious stack is devoted to attenuating the effects of depression, which I've largely surpassed through sheer mental fortitude? You can always be better, with regards to mood included.
That aside, even if you could emulate a state of happiness/marked hedonic pleasure, that does not imply that you would be able to constantly maintain it!
Originally posted by Lanny ですmakes a sentence declarative, so the use of "is" is wierd
Weaboo alert! Only the worst dweebs bother to purposefully learn Japanese. Be honest! What other use would it have than for the inordinate amount of anime you watch? Do you read untranslated/raw manga scans? Or are you tempted to use it to prey upon the nubile Japanese foreign students in SF/the bay area? Kono hentai! -
2016-11-20 at 1:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Tsk tsk tsk, do you honestly believe the overwhelming majority of my copious stack is devoted to attenuating the effects of depression, which I've largely surpassed through sheer mental fortitude? You can always be better, with regards to mood included.
That aside, even if you could emulate a state of happiness/marked hedonic pleasure, that does not imply that you would be able to constantly maintain it!
Weaboo alert! Only the worst dweebs bother to purposefully learn Japanese. Be honest! What other use would it have than for the inordinate amount of anime you watch? Do you read untranslated/raw manga scans? Or are you tempted to use it to prey upon the nubile Japanese foreign students in SF/the bay area? Kono hentai!
You forgot to add an angry loli to your "Kono Hentai" remark.
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2016-11-20 at 1:25 AM UTCWEW LADS WE ARE FULLY WEEB MODE TONIGHT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE ON /JP/
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2016-11-20 at 1:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Yes you can! Theory of mind is an enormous problem for most people. The minds of others, their cognitive abilities, can vary widely! Bring to mind an incredible feat of mind you have witnessed/read about. Could you imagine yourself ever doing that? Well, that doesn't mean it isn't possible because the mind is dependent on material reality, your physical vessel, which arises from your DNA, and that can vary enormously between individuals.
For a Juden, you certainly are simple minded.
Think yourself an orgasm. You think I am simple minded; I word things differently than you do. I think differently than you do. Trust me, I'm not simple minded. I'm also not a jedi contrary to your incessant claims to the contrary. I cannot make my hand hurt by imagining it on a hot stove, and I cannot make myself cum by imagining myself cumming. If you do not understand the point I'm trying to convey, as it relates to your statement of 'I've emulated it in my mind and determined it's not worth it,' then it is you who in this matter is simple-minded, as paradoxical as that may sound. You haven't emulated sex in your mind. You've emulated your perception of it. Instead you could just say that you're too lazy to give a shit about sex, which is far more likely the truth.
Like I said, I think you should have yourself a little dabble in the pussy game. You admitted yourself you have no lack of female adoration, what harm could it do to partake in the devil's dance? I would like to know the real reason why you've remained celibate. 'It's not worth it' isn't good enough, and who knows, maybe you will be exhilarated and find it is everything you've been missing. Maybe you'll hate it. Maybe you'll leave indifferent. Like they say, you don't know until you try. You might think you know, but you don't, and any attempt to convince yourself otherwise is unfair to yourself, self-deceit, if you will.
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2016-11-20 at 1:53 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ You haven't emulated sex in your mind. You've emulated your perception of it.
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2016-11-20 at 1:56 AM UTCmQ is like the king of the serfs. He is not the most educated, but by far not the least intelligent.
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2016-11-20 at 2:04 AM UTCNo! I can recreate the actual feeling.
Have you ever had a sex dream where it actually felt real? Without the actual stimuli your mind still recreated it! I’ve had some of the best sexual experiences and orgasms in these very rare dreams.
I can also conjure up flavors I recall, last eaten years and years ago before adapting my incredibly strict unbroken diet, and experience virtual meals. It’s not a visual perception in my minds eye, it’s recalling the actual experience itself or constructing it via automatic cognitive processes, using related data (penile stimulation via masturbation -> sex) and prediction algorithms (texture of the internal vaginal flesh). This may be related to my autism powers, which I received in exchange for the multitude of drawbacks. -
2016-11-20 at 2:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice No! I can recreate the actual feeling.
Have you ever had a sex dream where it actually felt real? Without the actual stimuli your mind still recreated it! I’ve had some of the best sexual experiences and orgasms in these very rare dreams.
I can also conjure up flavors I recall, last eaten years and years ago before adapting my incredibly strict unbroken diet, and experience virtual meals. It’s not a visual perception in my minds eye, it’s recalling the actual experience itself or constructing it via automatic cognitive processes, using related data (penile stimulation via masturbation -> sex) and prediction algorithms (texture of the internal vaginal flesh). This may be related to my autism powers, which I received in exchange for the multitude of drawbacks.
Malice thinks jerking it while doing math = sex.
This comment is designed to make fun of you in case your autism prevented you from seeing that. Also, i have this weird double feel about you Malice, i like you but sometimes you say shit that makes me want to verbally abuse you. And i am sorry but i cannot help myself. I do love you though, promise. -
2016-11-20 at 3 AM UTCFuck you, bitch! Your father permanently damaged you, you genetically inherited his negative traits, you'll always have to fight against this, the painful and cognitively exhausting struggle to remain aware of your actions from the perspective of others, their effects on them, to avoid going into a rage, and that will lead to your eventual alienation from everyone you care about, cause you to lose everyone you love, and leave you alone and miserable with only your 2D waifus to comfort you as you slide deeper into opioid addiction and the ensuing death, as you deserve.
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2016-11-20 at 3:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Fuck you, bitch! Your father permanently damaged you, you genetically inherited his negative traits, you'll always have to fight against this, the painful and cognitively exhausting struggle to remain aware of your actions from the perspective of others, their effects on them, to avoid going into a rage, and that will lead to your eventual alienation from everyone you care about, cause you to lose everyone you love, and leave you alone and miserable with only your 2D waifus to comfort you as you slide deeper into opioid addiction and the ensuing death, as you deserve.
Actually i am really good at knowing what to say to have a certain effect on someone. Exhibit A.
Originally posted by Malice Fuck you, bitch! Your father permanently damaged you, you genetically inherited his negative traits, you'll always have to fight against this, the painful and cognitively exhausting struggle to remain aware of your actions from the perspective of others, their effects on them, to avoid going into a rage, and that will lead to your eventual alienation from everyone you care about, cause you to lose everyone you love, and leave you alone and miserable with only your 2D waifus to comfort you as you slide deeper into opioid addiction and the ensuing death, as you deserve.
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2016-11-20 at 3:06 AM UTCAlso see how you brought up my father. I don't particularly care beyond the fact you have proven yourself to be a liar. Thanks fam.
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2016-11-20 at 3:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Tsk tsk tsk, do you honestly believe the overwhelming majority of my copious stack is devoted to attenuating the effects of depression, which I've largely surpassed through sheer mental fortitude? You can always be better, with regards to mood included.
That aside, even if you could emulate a state of happiness/marked hedonic pleasure, that does not imply that you would be able to constantly maintain it!
This conversation is so absurd I don't even know how to go forward from here. I guess I'll just say I don't believe you (you personally) can really reproduce a tactile experience on demand without the corresponding physical stimuli, much less a tactile experience you've never experienced personally. "But I can!", well tough shit bud it's called qualia and loud protestations on the matter haven't convinced anyone in at least a couple centuries of trying.Weaboo alert! Only the worst dweebs bother to purposefully learn Japanese. Be honest! What other use would it have than for the inordinate amount of anime you watch? Do you read untranslated/raw manga scans? Or are you tempted to use it to prey upon the nubile Japanese foreign students in SF/the bay area? Kono hentai!
The honest to god truth is that I want to read Murakami in Japanese. I read 1Q48 this last summer, I didn't think it was a tremendous work of literature and I don't think he's an all time great author but frequently while reading it, especially early on, I really wanted to understand what he had written in Japanese because the translation used some odd idioms here and there. Reading/watching raws would be kinda cool but I've never come across a work I wanted to consume that wasn't scanalated/subbed and there are very few pieces of anime or manga that I feel contain enough depth that something significant was lost in the translation.
In any case, the activity of learning another language is kind of fun in itself, it's a very interesting opportunity to introspect on subjective dimension of language acquisition. I'm a very verbal/linguistic person and it's really hard (I'll argue impossible, as would be the case for most people) to pry my thought process apart from language so L2 acquisition is a really cool opportunity to see the transformation from ridged symbol manipulation to intuition. I had a similar experience when I was learning to program (learning a new language, even if it wasn't a natural language) although I didn't have the same interests at the time to make the same observations. Interestingly picking up a new programming language gives a ghost of the same experience although after the third or fourth you start to think in terms of ASTs and syntax memorization becomes trivial. -
2016-11-20 at 3:38 AM UTC
I guess I'll just say I don't believe you (you personally) can really reproduce a tactile experience on demand without the corresponding physical stimuli, much less a tactile experience you've never experienced personally.
I swear I can! Although I'll admit it isn't nearly as strong as the original experience, but I've never tried, or really had/seen a reason to attempt to develop the ability. As for reproducing something I haven't actually experienced, I stated that I was reconstructing/emulating it and explained the process.
Originally posted by Sophie Also see how you brought up my father. I don't particularly care beyond the fact you have proven yourself to be a liar. Thanks fam.
Stop making me feel bad! You're probably doing this on purpose to manipulate me. I wasn't serious, anyway, my goal wasn't to hurt your emotions. -
2016-11-20 at 3:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Stop making me feel bad! You're probably doing this on purpose to manipulate me. I wasn't serious, anyway, my goal wasn't to hurt your emotions.
Wew, i think our autism just collided, i am being serious. Because i thought you were trying to hurt me because i hurt you and then i felt bad because i didn't lie when i said i actually like you. Can we be friends. That would make me feel better. I actually am not a psychopath i has feels.
