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We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat

  1. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by DietPiano Why do you believe morality is universal as opposed to referential?

    Why don't you?
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  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by mmQ Why don't you?

    Because there is no way to objectively measure the amount goodness or badness we imagine specific actions have. If everyone were to agree to share the same moral theory we would all imagine the same moral conclusions, but even if we did, that wouldn't tell us anything about the real world. When two people with different moral frameworks reach two different moral conclusions about a specific action there is no way for us to measure who if either of them is objectively correct.

    Why would anyone believe morality is objective?
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  3. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Obbe Because there is no way to objectively measure the amount goodness or badness we imagine specific actions have.

    There's lots of ways. A common one is "quality adjusted years of human life produced/reduced". Another is more binary: "does this action fulfill or violate my moral obligations". These things are about as measurable as any output of actuarial science, which no one claims is mere subjective opinion.
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  4. GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Close this fucking thread already.
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  5. Lanny Bird of Courage
    This thread is an NiS institution
  6. omn5;pvl Houston
    Zok is a nigger
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  7. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by omn5;pvl This thread is just like most philosophy books, hundreds of pages of grandiloquent sophistry that fails to advance human knowledge in any meaningful way.

    How many "philosophy books" have you read to give you the impression that you can comment on most of them? What even qualifies as a "philosophy book"?
  8. omn5;pvl Houston
    Zok is a nigger
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  9. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Wow! That's a lot of philosophy books man!

    I'd like to lean more about this sophistry you're talking about. Are there any particularly well regarded philosophy books out of the more than 400 philosophy books that you've read that particularly embody the sophistry and grandiloquence you're talking about? Are there any exceptional philosophy books that rise above grandiloquent sophistry?
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  10. omn5;pvl Houston
    Zok is a nigger
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  11. Originally posted by Lanny Wow! That's a lot of philosophy books man!

    I'd like to lean more about this sophistry you're talking about. Are there any particularly well regarded philosophy books out of the more than 400 philosophy books that you've read that particularly embody the sophistry and grandiloquence you're talking about? Are there any exceptional philosophy books that rise above grandiloquent sophistry?

    the holy bible.
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  12. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by omn5;pvl Best: The Ego and Its Own
    Worst: Everything else

    >he takes Stirner seriously



    inb4 laughing white girls are a spook
  13. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Best: Bukowski's Ham on Rye

    Worst: Anything else
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  14. Lanny Bird of Courage
    The part where he goes to the gay bar to get free drinks then gets into a fight because a gay mexican starts hitting on him is a metaphor for the relation between the working class and those who control the means of production in a capitalist society
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  15. omn5;pvl Houston
    Zok is a nigger
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  16. A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    just ate a phat hotlink and half a pound of pulled-pork

    change my mind
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  17. omn5;pvl Houston
    Zok is a nigger
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  18. GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by omn5;pvl Read Das Kapital and learn how those goods are produced through exploitation of labour, you will come to realize that there's no such thing as ethical consumption under captialism

    So you DO think we have a moral obligation to not eat meat?
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  19. A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    Originally posted by GGG So you DO think we have a moral obligation to not eat meat?

    hmmm it's really quite the quandary isn't it?
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  20. omn5;pvl Houston
    Zok is a nigger
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