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2018-12-16 at 5:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box it was/still is accepted drug knowledge that you can't snort benzos because they have to be water soluble, which most benzos (except midazolam) are not. insaneike was very much in the anti-camp, I was merely curious. think I was like 17 at the time, I asked a few questions in one thread, no one had real answers, the next day I woke up at like 7 AM and was like, "let's look into this". well water solubility doesn't fucking matter at all, it matters if its soluble in lipids, that's what your mucous membranes are all about. I showed plenty of cases of scientists using benzos intranasal. in my opinion, it was a pretty shut and dry case that I presented: snorting benzos WILL get you high.
now, maybe I was wrong and didn't take certain things into account or some shit, but no one ever brought up a serious argument, "snorting benzos doesn't work" is basically urban legend tier. one of those situations where you learn not to trust what people say on the internet.
A frontiersman of sorts... I like it.
I still wonder if there's an ROA I'm missing out on...
-- Obviously IV is ideal, but I always associate the needle with heroin, and as an ex-addict, I have to avoid that.
-- Tried hot-railing (meth) for the first time a few days ago - basically the inhalation of smoke through the nose.
-- Have not tried I.M. (intramuscular) or skin popping or whatever it's called - both sound kinda gross to be honest.
-- Eyeball drops, the stuff of Nazi-soldier myths... I might try it, but haven't researched it enough.
-- Rectal... I think I already mentioned it in this thread, or at least in another one this morning... I like rectally administering drugs. I think it does give me some kind of sexual thrill. If Bioavailability is even equivalent to Oral, I'll go for rectal (unless it's ridiculously impractical like I'm at work or in a class or at a funeral or something).
-- Cannula directly into skull (PRO's: bypasses BBB, 'nuff said; CON's: you literally have to drill a hole into the top of your skull, 'nuff said). -
2018-12-16 at 5:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks A frontiersman of sorts… I like it.
I still wonder if there's an ROI I'm missing out on…
– Obviously IV is ideal, but I always associate the needle with heroin, and as an ex-addict, I have to avoid that.
– Tried hot-railing (meth) for the first time a few days ago - basically the inhalation of smoke through the nose.
– Have not tried I.M. (intramuscular) or skin popping or whatever it's called - both sound kinda gross to be honest.
– Eyeball drops, the stuff of Nazi-soldier myths… I might try it, but haven't researched it enough.
– Rectal… I think I already mentioned it in this thread, or at least in another one this morning… I like rectally administering drugs. I think it does give me some kind of sexual thrill. If Bioavailability is even equivalent to Oral, I'll go for rectal (unless it's ridiculously impractical like I'm at work or in a class or at a funeral or something).
– Cannula directly into skull (PRO's: bypasses BBB, 'nuff said; CON's: you literally have to drill a hole into the top of your skull, 'nuff said).
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2018-12-16 at 5:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box sublingual. sublingual is the best. well, next to IV.
Shit, forgot to mention it.
It's exotic enough to be worth mentioning.
But I have definitely taken a lot of things sublingually.
If I had pure alprazolam powder (not too difficult to find, really, on the deep web), I'd make a highly concentrated propylene glycole solution and take that sublingually a fair bit.
I did it with crushed pills, but, you know, binders and fillers and all that make it less concentrated.
I also remember sublingual HBWR (LSA) to have been surprisingly effective some 10 years ago.
I even wrote a trip report and sent it to Erowid, but they denied it (I think because at one point I mention a drunk driving friend who dropped by right in the middle of the whole thing - I doubt it was my communication skills that got it denied - who knows for sure though). -
2018-12-16 at 5:42 PM UTCwhat I love most about this thread is that its a fucking CANADIAN doxing himself. this is a place with even less free speech rights than America. if you'd think anyone would dox themselves it would be an American with a bald eagle blowing him while he uses thermite to smoke his meth. gadzooks is so fucked. canadians aren't allowed to say the nigger word, much less post on a forum called niggas in space lmaoThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-16 at 5:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Shit, forgot to mention it.
It's exotic enough to be worth mentioning.
But I have definitely taken a lot of things sublingually.
If I had pure alprazolam powder (not too difficult to find, really, on the deep web), I'd make a highly concentrated propylene glycole solution and take that sublingually a fair bit.
I did it with crushed pills, but, you know, binders and fillers and all that make it less concentrated.
I also remember sublingual HBWR (LSA) to have been surprisingly effective some 10 years ago.
I even wrote a trip report and sent it to Erowid, but they denied it (I think because at one point I mention a drunk driving friend who dropped by right in the middle of the whole thing - I doubt it was my communication skills that got it denied - who knows for sure though).
used to be a volunteer for erowid, going through trip reports. actually I think I still might be one, I get the emails occasionally. you wouldn't believe the backlog of shit. -
2018-12-16 at 5:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box what I love most about this thread is that its a fucking CANADIAN doxing himself. this is a place with even less free speech rights than America. if you'd think anyone would dox themselves it would be an American with a bald eagle blowing him while he uses thermite to smoke his meth. gadzooks is so fucked. canadians aren't allowed to say the nigger word, much less post on a forum called niggas in space lmao
I'd just love to post a link to a 'niggasin.space/' thread on work Slack.
I'm already known at work though for making obscene comments during conference calls.
Or for using swear words and sex talk in my code comments.
I actually kinda like pushing the boundaries to see what I can get away with.
If you stand out at what you do, you can get away with quite a bit.
I took that lesson from the book of the show "House, M.D.". -
2018-12-16 at 5:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box used to be a volunteer for erowid, going through trip reports. actually I think I still might be one, I get the emails occasionally. you wouldn't believe the backlog of shit.
When you put it like that, maybe they published it like 10 years later.
All I know is I posted the same trip report in BLTC, and quite a few people found it useful.
It was surprisingly effective.
I think they were either Mother Gecko or Botanical Bear or whoever the main supplier on Totse was back then, so they were quality seeds. -
2018-12-16 at 5:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I'd just love to post a link to a 'niggasin.space/' thread on work Slack.
I'm already known at work though for making obscene comments during conference calls.
Or for using swear words and sex talk in my code comments.
I actually kinda like pushing the boundaries to see what I can get away with.
If you stand out what you do, you can get away with quite a bit.
I took that lesson from the book of "House, M.D.".
you're not invulnerable, people will crucify literal geniuses like Crick. you may think you're hot shit, and you're probably a smarter and more capable person than the average normie but you're completely replaceable. you're fucked up and impulsive. take a deep breath and realize you're making serious risks with VERY little upside. this is bad business. high risk always needs high rewards - what are you getting out of this? not like anyone here respects you more for seeing your ugly irish faceThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-12-16 at 11:02 PM UTCNo one else is going to join the party?
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2018-12-16 at 11:28 PM UTCI wish I hadn't posted that shit about Obama. Now hardly anybody even remembers my old username.
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2018-12-16 at 11:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box it was/still is accepted drug knowledge that you can't snort benzos because they have to be water soluble, which most benzos (except midazolam) are not. insaneike was very much in the anti-camp, I was merely curious. think I was like 17 at the time, I asked a few questions in one thread, no one had real answers, the next day I woke up at like 7 AM and was like, "let's look into this". well water solubility doesn't fucking matter at all, it matters if its soluble in lipids, that's what your mucous membranes are all about. I showed plenty of cases of scientists using benzos intranasal. in my opinion, it was a pretty shut and dry case that I presented: snorting benzos WILL get you high.
now, maybe I was wrong and didn't take certain things into account or some shit, but no one ever brought up a serious argument, "snorting benzos doesn't work" is basically urban legend tier. one of those situations where you learn not to trust what people say on the internet.
I loved that thread. I featured it on my website where it was later used on a number of other websites as copypasta. I always maintained the author (you), so I thought it was pretty cool.
There is the other camp, however, that will say that snorting the benzos ultimately becomes active because it ends up as an oral ROA anyway once it's dripped down from the nasal passages. That is it NOT, in fact, absorbed in the mucous membranes of the nasal cavity, but instead, passed through, dripped down to the back of the throat, and ultimately orally ingested.
I really don't give a shit either way. I know my ass was snorting xanax back in 2006 with or without your thread and I was doing hella dumb shit that I didn't remember.
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2018-12-17 at 12:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by Grimace I loved that thread. I featured it on my website where it was later used on a number of other websites as copypasta. I always maintained the author (you), so I thought it was pretty cool.
There is the other camp, however, that will say that snorting the benzos ultimately becomes active because it ends up as an oral ROA anyway once it's dripped down from the nasal passages. That is it NOT, in fact, absorbed in the mucous membranes of the nasal cavity, but instead, passed through, dripped down to the back of the throat, and ultimately orally ingested.
I really don't give a shit either way. I know my ass was snorting xanax back in 2006 with or without your thread and I was doing hella dumb shit that I didn't remember.
yeah that was the ONLY other argument but I think I pretty much nailed it being wrong: the mechanism of action that allows drugs to absorb through your nasal membranes is the same mechanism that allows you to take drugs sublingually. its pretty common to take benzos sublingually, and NO, that's not oral.
honestly I wonder how the whole idea of water solubility being the crux became a thing. I'm guessing its an old junkie myth from needle users that think everything has to be in water. because if you look at any actual data there's no reason to think water solubility is ever considered for these drugs, in the context of how well they are absorbed in mucous membranes.
I think this is a case where the evidence outweighed the theories: you had tons of people saying that they were snorting xannax and getting high, and some buttmad people on the internet flexing their drug muscles by saying no its not possible. i saw that faggot from vice, Hamilton (fuck that guy), spewing those same lies on a Joe Rogan podcast. saying this shit like he somehow knows that its really true, but he doesn't know why its true he just knows he's heard other people say it. fuck that noise! why does it work or not work?
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2018-12-17 at 4:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box yeah that was the ONLY other argument but I think I pretty much nailed it being wrong: the mechanism of action that allows drugs to absorb through your nasal membranes is the same mechanism that allows you to take drugs sublingually. its pretty common to take benzos sublingually, and NO, that's not oral.
honestly I wonder how the whole idea of water solubility being the crux became a thing. I'm guessing its an old junkie myth from needle users that think everything has to be in water. because if you look at any actual data there's no reason to think water solubility is ever considered for these drugs, in the context of how well they are absorbed in mucous membranes.
I think this is a case where the evidence outweighed the theories: you had tons of people saying that they were snorting xannax and getting high, and some buttmad people on the internet flexing their drug muscles by saying no its not possible. i saw that faggot from vice, Hamilton (fuck that guy), spewing those same lies on a Joe Rogan podcast. saying this shit like he somehow knows that its really true, but he doesn't know why its true he just knows he's heard other people say it. fuck that noise! why does it work or not work?
most people have no idea what the fuck they're talking about
I can do some research for you really quick to settle this once and for all -
2018-12-17 at 4:40 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-17 at 4:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box we're gonna have to do this double blind, which means we both have to get methanol tier, bleeding from our assholes drunk.
Wrong spirits.
Spirits of the methylated variety are good as a solvent for some simple chemical purifications of illicit recreational drugs.
But not for drinking.
Although I will be the first to admit, I have taken a few sips of a hobo cocktail that included dollar store rubbing alcohol. -
2018-12-17 at 4:45 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-17 at 4:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Wrong spirits.
Spirits of the methylated variety are good as a solvent for some simple chemical purifications of illicit recreational drugs.
But not for drinking.
Although I will be the first to admit, I have taken a few sips of a hobo cocktail that included dollar store rubbing alcohol.
you tried to be smart, but you didn't get the joke. DOUBLE BLIND. methanol made people GO BLIND. fuck I hate having to explain a joke but you're too smart for your own good. do you really think I don't know what methanol is? you're going to explain it to me and not get the joke? fucking canadians. -
2018-12-17 at 5:16 AM UTC
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2018-12-17 at 5:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box you tried to be smart, but you didn't get the joke. DOUBLE BLIND. methanol made people GO BLIND. fuck I hate having to explain a joke but you're too smart for your own good. do you really think I don't know what methanol is? you're going to explain it to me and not get the joke? fucking canadians.
I got the joke (methanol causing blindness).
I think I just autism-fucked it up by trying to expand on it. -
2018-12-17 at 5:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box you tried to be smart, but you didn't get the joke. DOUBLE BLIND. methanol made people GO BLIND. fuck I hate having to explain a joke but you're too smart for your own good. do you really think I don't know what methanol is? you're going to explain it to me and not get the joke? fucking canadians.
methanol makes you blind idiotThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
