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When you're at the store buying liquor and walk into the 'mixer' aisle
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2018-12-14 at 3:20 AM UTCI want a lemon drop!
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2018-12-14 at 3:21 AM UTC
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2018-12-14 at 3:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I do taste subtle differences, actually sometimes not even so subtle.
But can I actually label them with quantitative valuations for each so-called "note of flavor"? No, I cannot.
Oh yeah lol. That shit like that list you posted is absolutely chumfucking silly.
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2018-12-14 at 3:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by GGG That's usually what I do. Just straight whiskey.
But my friends don't like that, so if we aren't drinking beer they'll want rum and some soda, or as a compromise they will drink the whiskey with fucking Dr. Pepper, which is gross as fuck, especially with Canadian whiskeys.
betas drink what their friends want.
alphhas habe their friends drink what they want. -
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2018-12-15 at 10:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Chasing > mixed drinks, with few exceptions. Those exceptions being complex, fruity cocktails that you feel gay for drinking and like… the cuba libre. But even then, like, chasing a shot of rum with coke is pretty much just as good.
Drinking a cocktail makes you feel gay??
Fuckinlolol
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2018-12-15 at 10:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Glenfiddich is decent.
I haven't tried every brand of Single Malt Scotch out there, admittedly.
In fact, I haven't even tried every type (they vary based on where in Scotland they come from).
But as a general rule, the more aged, the better, and single malt is always superior to blended scotch.
Other than that, personal taste will become a factor.
Some prefer Speyside single malts (such as Glenfiddich), whereas others prefer Islay or Highland brands.
Scotch is an interesting type of liquor, with a lot of history, and some pretentious zealots / over-the-top fanatics out there.
I sometimes can't even tell if they're just utterly full of it, or really able to distinguish between such subtle nuances as how floral vs how fruity a certain scotch is, or if it's slightly more nutty than it is malty.
Scotch enthusiasts can be pretty precise with their alleged flavor profiles.
Say what you want about me being a pleb or what have you, but I just like it aged well and single malt. Beyond that, those subtle nuances are beyond my palette's detection.
laphroaig is really nice where whiskey is concerned. Very smooth single malt aged 10 years. It has a white label and often comes in one of those cardboard tubes that they put some whiskeys in to make them look all posh. The cardboard tube is all white too.
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2018-12-15 at 11:12 AM UTCim drinking sherry sitting in a golden library hovering above such concerns as "mixers"
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2018-12-15 at 11:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc laphroaig is really nice where whiskey is concerned. Very smooth single malt aged 10 years. It has a white label and often comes in one of those cardboard tubes that they put some whiskeys in to make them look all posh. The cardboard tube is all white too.
That cardboard tube is such a scotch thing. I still have a few of my Glenfiddich tubes lying around.
And Laphroaig sounds vaguely familiar. I might have actually tried that once. A single malt will taste very differently depending on which part of Scotland it hails from. -
2018-12-15 at 11:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box im drinking sherry sitting in a golden library hovering above such concerns as "mixers"
Are you drinking Sherry because it is (mathemetically/logically speaking) the cheapest way to get drunk? Or are you a Sherry enthusiast?
Also, drinking in libraries can be quite the experience. I can definitely say I have used libraries for drinking. -
2018-12-15 at 11:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Are you drinking Sherry because it is (mathemetically/logically speaking) the cheapest way to get drunk? Or are you a Sherry enthusiast?
Also, drinking in libraries can be quite the experience. I can definitely say I have used libraries for drinking.
i honest to god love sherry, cognac is my second favorite but a properly delicious sherry is above and beyond everything else.
1. Top tier sherry
2. Top tier cognac
3. Top tier red wine
4. top tier whisky
actually why would you want to drink anything else?
top tier, btw, does not mean hundreds of dollars. nothing i hate more than posers that know nothing about shit and tout around $200 bottles of absolute garbage. -
2018-12-15 at 11:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box i honest to god love sherry, cognac is my second favorite but a properly delicious sherry is above and beyond everything else.
1. Top tier sherry
2. Top tier cognac
3. Top tier red wine
4. top tier whisky
actually why would you want to drink anything else?
top tier, btw, does not mean hundreds of dollars. nothing i hate more than posers that know nothing about shit and tout around $200 bottles of absolute garbage.
I will occasionally splurge on an aged single malt whiskey, but that's about the only kind of liquor where the taste even matters to me.
Most of the time, not gonna lie, my end goal is to get a buzz going, so the taste of what I'm drinking is of little importance.
But a decent single malt, I will sip on it slowly and enjoy it.
Red wine, I can't say I even know a Merlot from a Shiraz, but I don't mind red wine.
Cognac ain't so bad, but again, I don't have a whole lot of experience with it.
What is Brandy? Is Brandy Cognac? Or am I conflating two totally different things?
Sherry, though, you've captured my interest, because I've only EVER seen the truly destitute drink Sherry.
And I'm not saying that because I'm trying insult you or call you poor, let alone unrefined, or anything like that.
I'm genuinely curious about Sherry.
Because there has to be more to it than bums buying it because it's the (mathematically speaking) cheapest way to get drunk - IF you get the right stuff.
Like any other liquor, I'm sure there's quality Sherry out there to balance out the stuff the bums love.
(And boy do they love it... a few weeks ago, I bought a CASE of the cheap Sherry and drank with a group of homeless alcoholics... They were so appreciative... it was among the best $100 I ever spent). -
2018-12-15 at 12:05 PM UTCSo many questions, I'm glad I can answer all of them.
All cognac is brandy, but not all brandy is cognac. Cognac is a specific region in Frace, much like Champagne only comes from the Champagne region - even though there are bubbly white wines from all over the world. Sherry certainly isn't THE most efficient way to get drunk, vodka will always have that throne. It comes very close, and to be fair the reason I got into wine was because it's just more fucking effective/$ than shitty beer. a lot of whisky uses sherry oak casks, and all sherry is basically fresh as fuck fortified red wine. stick a little girl into a barrel for a year and - amborsia. Well its not so fucking easy, but good Sherry is the apex of the alcohol making process refined into a very small period. you don't age sherry. sherry is fresh and fun, there is no point in aging it. unlike wine, which tastes like grapes and sugar until five years where it develops a body, and then another five years where you can actually call it a wine and not just alcoholic grape juice. sherry is the fucking greatest but I doubt I can convince many people of that.
cognac though, proper, delicious french cognac (but I repeat myself) should bring any whisky lover to his knees.
i could talk forever about this
one of the reasons I do love living in California even though its basically a totalitarian communist state, the fucking wine is amazing and cheap. California has some of the best wine - and sherry!- in the world. and its so cheap here jesus christ just drowning in delicious fucking wine made by people that sit naked out in the wine fields, smoking DMT and channeling ancient gods. you know the french aren't doing that.
I've got an empty bottle of a 15 year old bottle of wine, been keeping it around so I remember to get more, one of the most delicious things I've ever tasted. Hidden away in the liquor store, $10 a bottle. Absolute fucking steal, but barely anyone will notice it because people think spending tons of money on a 2 year old bottle because of the brand name is a good idea. bro, some people invest in wine, based on all sorts of shit, that wine might be a killer in ten years but what are we having for dinner?
really saddens me to see people drink nothing but syrupy white wine trash (girls) or over hyped expensive bullshit in wine reviews (fags). these people have probably never tasted a properly matured wine, or if they did they paid hundreds of dollars and felt compelled to declare it amazing. first time my tongue hit a fourteen year old I was in fucking heaven, no joke a religious experience, honey and flowers, so subtle and delicious, not like the grape-juice flavored cough syrup that passes for most wine. just delicious shit. ten dollars! ten fucking dollars. don't spend $200 on a 2 year old bottle of mondavishekelstein unless you plan on letting it sit around for 15 years. buy good wine, learn your grapes, don't be a fag. -
2018-12-15 at 12:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box All cognac is brandy, but not all brandy is cognac. Cognac is a specific region in Frace, much like Champagne only comes from the Champagne region - even though there are bubbly white wines from all over the world.
That is a good analogy.
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box Sherry certainly isn't THE most efficient way to get drunk, vodka will always have that throne.
Ok, there is one other conditional / qualifying factor... If you have $6, you can actually walk into a liquor store and by a bottle of the cheapest sherry.
But you need more money in your pocket for the vodka.
So, bang-for-your-buck-wise, vodka MIGHT be cheaper.
But if you're panhandling or just a few days from welfare day and you need yourself something to drink, then Sherry (the cheap stuff) makes the most sense.
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box a lot of whisky uses sherry oak casks, and all sherry is basically fresh as fuck fortified red wine. stick a little girl into a barrel for a year and - amborsia. Well its not so fucking easy, but good Sherry is the apex of the alcohol making process refined into a very small period. you don't age sherry. sherry is fresh and fun, there is no point in aging it. unlike wine, which tastes like grapes and sugar until five years where it develops a body, and then another five years where you can actually call it a wine and not just alcoholic grape juice. sherry is the fucking greatest but I doubt I can convince many people of that.
You do make a strong case for Sherry. And because I'm such an open-minded person, always looking to try new things, I will be out there looking for a decent brand of Sherry, and you'll be the first I think of before I take that first sip.
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box cognac though, proper, delicious french cognac (but I repeat myself) should bring any whisky lover to his knees.
i could talk forever about this
one of the reasons I do love living in California even though its basically a totalitarian communist state, the fucking wine is amazing and cheap. California has some of the best wine - and sherry!- in the world. and its so cheap here jesus christ just drowning in delicious fucking wine made by people that sit naked out in the wine fields, smoking DMT and channeling ancient gods. you know the french aren't doing that.
I've got an empty bottle of a 15 year old bottle of wine, been keeping it around so I remember to get more, one of the most delicious things I've ever tasted. Hidden away in the liquor store, $10 a bottle. Absolute fucking steal, but barely anyone will notice it because people think spending tons of money on a 2 year old bottle because of the brand name is a good idea. bro, some people invest in wine, based on all sorts of shit, that wine might be a killer in ten years but what are we having for dinner?
really saddens me to see people drink nothing but syrupy white wine trash (girls) or over hyped expensive bullshit in wine reviews (fags). these people have probably never tasted a properly matured wine, or if they did they paid hundreds of dollars and felt compelled to declare it amazing. first time my tongue hit a fourteen year old I was in fucking heaven, no joke a religious experience, honey and flowers, so subtle and delicious, not like the grape-juice flavored cough syrup that passes for most wine. just delicious shit. ten dollars! ten fucking dollars. don't spend $200 on a 2 year old bottle of mondavishekelstein unless you plan on letting it sit around for 15 years. buy good wine, learn your grapes, don't be a fag.
You do pique my interests in sherry, cognac, red white, and so forth. I will admit.
But there are flavor zealouts when it comes to ANY kind of liquor. This thread in particular even delves into that a little bit.
Like, I really do enjoy an aged single malt Whiskey, but do I consider it worth paying an extra $X.XX for it over, say, a blended whiskey? Or even beer or malt liquor?
At the end of the day, I drink to get drunk. If it happens to taste good, that's just a bonus in my books.
But you have intrigued me regarding the ways of the wine. -
2018-12-15 at 12:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks That is a good analogy.
Ok, there is one other conditional / qualifying factor… If you have $6, you can actually walk into a liquor store and by a bottle of the cheapest sherry.
But you need more money in your pocket for the vodka.
So, bang-for-your-buck-wise, vodka MIGHT be cheaper.
But if you're panhandling or just a few days from welfare day and you need yourself something to drink, then Sherry (the cheap stuff) makes the most sense.
You do make a strong case for Sherry. And because I'm such an open-minded person, always looking to try new things, I will be out there looking for a decent brand of Sherry, and you'll be the first I think of before I take that first sip.
You do pique my interests in sherry, cognac, red white, and so forth. I will admit.
But there are flavor zealouts when it comes to ANY kind of liquor. This thread in particular even delves into that a little bit.
Like, I really do enjoy an aged single malt Whiskey, but do I consider it worth paying an extra $X.XX for it over, say, a blended whiskey? Or even beer or malt liquor?
At the end of the day, I drink to get drunk. If it happens to taste good, that's just a bonus in my books.
But you have intrigued me regarding the ways of the wine.
Of course you drink to get drunk. But how many times have you been drunk? After a certain point you want it to be more enjoyable than just the bare minimum. Anyway, let's talk about the fun stuff!
there are a lot of things to consider when you're thinking, "is this going to be something delicious(and alcoholic)" or not. understanding the process of growing grapes and the various stages of being in casks, aging, etc helps you get an understanding of what sort of costs are involved in what level of investment. Basically, everything over $20 (some would argue $10 but I am being generous) is nothing but hype and nonsense. There is only so much money someone can put into a vineyard, only so many things they can do. Investing in all that high tech shit doesn't even always work out, it is funny to see the hippie brands full of meditating moon children beat out bigger brands. So assuming you're dealing with a brand that is trying to recoup losses from all the investments in high tech bullshit you're still looking at most, a $15 price baked in. everything after that is bullshit.
you go to the store, you drink a $20 bottle that's maybe three years old, maybe a malbec from Italy, something nice. it's still nothing special. so the next time you're out with your girl you decide to order the $200, 2 year old pinot noir. no one likes it. you think wine is shitty and the whole thing is a scam.
meanwhile I am constantly finding amazing 10-15 year old bottles of wine in the $10-$15 range. drinking a real wine will turn your whole shit around. you'll be like, wow, people are capable of creating something like that? properly aged red wine is just nothing but the most delicate notes of honeys and flowers and everything beautiful and perfect in this world.