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2018-12-01 at 8:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks A perfect balance, one might say?
A lofty and worthwhile ambition.
One I strive for daily.
Balance is nice, but don't confuse moderation with mediocrity. Extremes are necessary and healthy to establish boundaries. Taking 50 mcg of LSD is basically nothing, 500 mcg is incredibly powerful - but you generally don't want to be on acid all the time. Responsible and realistic drug use is possible in our time but not with the current drug culture(a fractal of culture at large), which more than anything else makes any high a giant bummer. -
2018-12-01 at 8:20 AM UTC
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2018-12-01 at 8:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Unless you derive displeasure from having discipline and a strict moral framework? Otherwise that is beyond counterintuitive, it's flat out wrong. 😒
No, you're flat out wrong and counter intuitive. Deriving displeasure from something abstract like discipline or having a moral framework means that you are plagued with SPOOKS, these things are tools to serve you. You want to build a house but you're mad at hammers and nails. That's your fault. -
2018-12-01 at 8:34 AM UTCHow old are you rizzo?
I mean clearly you're u der 30 with such an idealistic viewpoint as that.
You've not experienced life and the world enough to realize yet that life isn't as black and white as you'd like it to be.
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2018-12-01 at 8:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box No, you're flat out wrong and counter intuitive. Deriving displeasure from something abstract like discipline or having a moral framework means that you are plagued with SPOOKS, these things are tools to serve you. You want to build a house but you're mad at hammers and nails. That's your fault.
No, I want to enjoy myself and consequently I don't want to do things that I don't enjoy. I'm not mad at the hammers and nails, lobsterman. I don't want to build a house - I want to derive the maximum amount of pleasure from life without experiencing the displeasure of manual labor. Metaphorically speaking. -
2018-12-01 at 8:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS No, I want to enjoy myself and consequently I don't want to do things that I don't enjoy. I'm not mad at the hammers and nails, lobsterman. I don't want to build a house - I want to derive the maximum amount of pleasure from life without experiencing the displeasure of manual labor. Metaphorically speaking.
Originally posted by Narc How old are you rizzo?
I mean clearly you're u der 30 with such an idealistic viewpoint as that.
You've not experienced life and the world enough to realize yet that life isn't as black and white as you'd like it to be.
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What the fuck are you even talking about, black and white what? Shut the fuck up. Yeah, I'm 17. -
2018-12-01 at 8:49 AM UTCTo put this another way, what is pleasure without the absense of displeasure? Living in a way that I don't want to live just to experience joys that would otherwise be inaccessible to me seems far less hedonistic than living the way I want to live and experiencing the maximum amount of joy that I can from that lifestyle. 🤔
Is "true hedonism" the rigorous pursuit of pleasure even if it means going against your own desires, or the comfortable pursuit of pleasure in line with what you desire? 🤔🤔🤔 -
2018-12-01 at 8:52 AM UTCI don't want to work a job, so why would I work so I could afford 30 asian hookers when I could just not work and sit around all day masturbating? Fuck discipline. 🤔
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2018-12-01 at 8:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS I don't want to work a job, so why would I work so I could afford 30 asian hookers when I could just not work and sit around all day masturbating? Fuck discipline. 🤔
yeah, that's not pleasure, that's mediocrity. it's not hedonism, it's just you making the most of your shitty life. well, it's not even you making the most of anything. it's you trying to wring the last bits of pleasure out of a broken mind and a ruptured butthole. -
2018-12-01 at 9:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box yeah, that's not pleasure, that's mediocrity. it's not hedonism, it's just you making the most of your shitty life. well, it's not even you making the most of anything. it's you trying to wring the last bits of pleasure out of a broken mind and a ruptured butthole.
Hedonism starts with the seeking the absense of displeasure. Suffering for 90% of your life so you can experience 10/10 pleasure for 10% of your life is not hedonism, it's self-harm with a reward. -
2018-12-01 at 9:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Hedonism starts with the seeking the absense of displeasure. Suffering for 90% of your life so you can experience 10/10 pleasure for 10% of your life is not hedonism, it's self-harm with a reward.
"seeking the absence of displeasure" sounds like some of the gayest shit I've ever heard your gay ginger ass say. life is suffering, butt fucker. -
2018-12-01 at 9:06 AM UTC
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2018-12-01 at 9:07 AM UTCif I made you straight, would you die?
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2018-12-01 at 9:09 AM UTCAnd even if it were generally true, minimizing suffering is the goal. Even if I'll always suffer, I'll always suffer less than you - who willingly suffers under the yoke of his own self-discipline. 😘
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box if I made you straight, would you die?
Lmao. It would be very painful. So I'm going to avoid that. -
2018-12-01 at 9:32 AM UTCwell I think we'll just have to accept we're on two different ends on the hedonism spectrum, I'd like to maximize pleasure and you'd like to avoid pain as much as possible. don't think this is even something you can argue over, seems more of a personality proclivity. in other words, you're a bitch.
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2018-12-01 at 10:32 AM UTC
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2018-12-01 at 10:41 AM UTClel you're a bright crayon in a box of lightbulbs
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2018-12-01 at 10:55 AM UTClol I remember being 17, having zero life experience and yet thinking I knew everything about how the world works. I still lol now when I think back and realize just how much I didn't actually know shit and how wrong I really had it.
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2018-12-01 at 10:57 AM UTC
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2018-12-01 at 11 AM UTC