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2018-11-14 at 11:24 PM UTC
The solution can be concentrated (by boiling off excess water) to ~600mL without it crystallizing at room temp, but if concentrating as far as to ~500 mL it will invariably solidify.
Or does this mean that I can actually keep evaporating until I get a pure solid? -
2018-11-15 at 1:53 AM UTCYou add sodium hydroxide to make the sodium salt of GHB which is a solid.
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2018-11-15 at 2:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost You add sodium hydroxide to make the sodium salt of GHB which is a solid.
I used sodium hydroxide... The Rhodium article said to keep mixing until you get a pH of about 7-8. So once I hit that spot, I stopped mixing, and just threw it all into mason jars and put em in my fridge.
Are you saying I can add even more NaOH and turn it into a solid?
The Rhodium article doesn't really mention that, so I'm a tad skeptical. -
2018-11-15 at 3:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Oh man do I ever know that feel.
I made a substantial order for something like two weeks ago, domestic and everything, and it ain't even here yet.
I check the mailbox like 3 times a day.
My neighbours be knowin' I be checkin' for drugs. There's no way they don't assume that.
They prolly been watching for the postman and got in there before you then.
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2018-11-15 at 3:32 PM UTC
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2018-11-15 at 3:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I used sodium hydroxide… The Rhodium article said to keep mixing until you get a pH of about 7-8. So once I hit that spot, I stopped mixing, and just threw it all into mason jars and put em in my fridge.
Are you saying I can add even more NaOH and turn it into a solid?
The Rhodium article doesn't really mention that, so I'm a tad skeptical.
Try it out with a little sample first.
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2018-11-15 at 3:55 PM UTC
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2018-11-15 at 4:23 PM UTCHoly shit, the thermometer exploded...
I guess I tainted this batch. Luckily it was only 50ml.
Are you not supposed to leave the thermometer in while it's boiling?
Or did I just use a cheap-ass thermometer?
Also, if it's a non-mercury thermometer (I'll have to double check on that), then is it still safe to consume this now volume-reduced NaGHB?
It's a blue liquid if that helps. -
2018-11-15 at 4:25 PM UTCAh fuck it, I'm not going to risk my life for 50ml of GHB.
I'll classify this one under lessons learned. -
2018-11-15 at 4:46 PM UTCI think it depends on the thermometer
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2018-11-15 at 4:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Holy shit, the thermometer exploded…
I guess I tainted this batch. Luckily it was only 50ml.
Are you not supposed to leave the thermometer in while it's boiling?
Or did I just use a cheap-ass thermometer?
Also, if it's a non-mercury thermometer (I'll have to double check on that), then is it still safe to consume this now volume-reduced NaGHB?
It's a blue liquid if that helps.
Shit what kinda thermometer did you use? I think candy thermometers go up to really high temps you should get one of those.
The article says if you have a 50% solution of 750ml of GHB and you boil it down to 500ml it will solidify.
I've never done anything with GHB before but I have seen the solid salt form on the darknet it looked pretty cool to me. -
2018-11-15 at 4:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost Shit what kinda thermometer did you use? I think candy thermometers go up to really high temps you should get one of those.
The article says if you have a 50% solution of 750ml of GHB and you boil it down to 500ml it will solidify.
I've never done anything with GHB before but I have seen the solid salt form on the darknet it looked pretty cool to me.
Well, the 50ml pyrex glass within which the thermometer broke, DID solidify, interestingly enough. But the solid contained a slight blue tint from the thermometer's internal liquid, so I am considering the whole experiment both a success and a failure.
I'm trying again, with a similar quantity of NaGHB, this time using my magnetic stirrer / hot place (SEE EDIT), a mason jar (I hope that's a suitable substitute for pyrex glassware, if not, I'll have learned two lessons today), and I'm not keeping track of the temperature, just letting it evaporate on it's own with just enough heat to keep it at a steady boil.
EDIT: I just placed the pyrex container directly onto the kitchen stove. Might that have been bad protocol? I have a magnetic stirrer / hotplate but it just doesn't seem to get that hot, and definitely not very quickly. -
2018-11-15 at 5 PM UTCAlso, this is the thermometer I used:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00551NLYG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -
2018-11-15 at 5 PM UTCSounds like a better plan.
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2018-11-15 at 6:55 PM UTCBe careful with uneven heating or i might have to call the SPCG (society for the prevention of cruelty to glassware) on you
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2018-11-15 at 7:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost Be careful with uneven heating or i might have to call the SPCG (society for the prevention of cruelty to glassware) on you
I was doing a trial run (for an upcoming anhydrous ammonia project) yesterday where I was using (baked/dry) epsom salts added to toluene, then distilled with an apparatus kinda like this:
But with my magnetic stirrer / heating plate as the heat source.
Now, am I supposed to let the glass vessel I'm heating actually directly touch the heating plate? Or is it supposed to just rest a few mm above it? -
2018-11-15 at 7:39 PM UTC