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A drug called 'monkey dust' which causes people to eat faces and jump from buildings
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2018-08-12 at 2:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by WellHung Dude, bath salts are old news here in the States… anyone who has not been living in a cave should be quite aware of the horrors of this drug… the Miami face - eater freeway case a while back earned a great deal of notoriety.
OP, even me at over 100 knew about this chit when I was young, like, 75, or some such.
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2018-08-12 at 2:58 PM UTCthis is what the media do with drugs, they take the very worst isolated case they can find then report it like that is common place with the drug. they always conveniently forget to mention any other factors that are/were involved also.
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2018-08-12 at 3 PM UTCbasically, if you're smart, then you won't get your drug information from the media who have an alternative agenda when reporting anything drug related.
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2018-08-12 at 3:03 PM UTCi mean its like this, if what you know about a drug came from media sources like tv or newspapers etc, then you don't know anything about that drug, period. so you really shouldn't be discussing it like you think you know about it.
and that very much applies to all y'all on here who keep going on at me about heroin when you clearly don't know wtf you're talking about.
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2018-08-12 at 3:10 PM UTCNarc,
Even though I feel heroin is a nasty drug for MOST, you seek to be somewhat of a functioning user. I can’t say for sure, I don’t really know you, but you seem to be an intelligent man. If it rules your every waking moment, that’s a problem.
Now you can talk about your use in a positive light, but for the majority, heroin ruins people’s lives. I don’t know about England, but the US is suffering a major crisis. The rural areas in Ohio are getting eaten with heroin users. So many sad deaths. -
2018-08-12 at 3:13 PM UTC
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2018-08-12 at 3:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Narc,
Even though I feel heroin is a nasty drug for MOST, you seek to be somewhat of a functioning user. I can’t say for sure, I don’t really know you, but you seem to be an intelligent man. If it rules your every waking moment, that’s a problem.
Now you can talk about your use in a positive light, but for the majority, heroin ruins people’s lives. I don’t know about England, but the US is suffering a major crisis. The rural areas in Ohio are getting eaten with heroin users. So many sad deaths.
its prohibition that makes it such a problem. its because of prohibition that nobody knows the purity of their supply from one bag to the next. you can't judge your dose properly when you don't know the purity and this is why people accidentally overdose. because of prohibition people hide away to use where nobody will find them if they overdose. and prohibition pushes up the prices so users have to resort to theft and often violence in order to fund the habit. prohibition means suppliers cannot sort their disputes through the usual legal processes and so end up resorting to violence as the only solution open to them. without prohibition all those problems would go away. there would be much less risk of you being violently robbed by a desperate addict and everybodies insurance premiums would go right down. why anybody is in favor of prohibition which is so damaging to society is beyond me.
also just think of all the money saved by the authorities trying to fight the drug problem, less tax dollars spent on law enforcement, prisons, courts and legal costs. all that money could be put to much better use making your community a much nicer richer place to live.
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2018-08-12 at 3:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist i mean its like this, if what you know about a drug came from media sources like tv or newspapers etc, then you don't know anything about that drug, period. so you really shouldn't be discussing it like you think you know about it.
and that very much applies to all y'all on here who keep going on at me about heroin when you clearly don't know wtf you're talking about.
You can trust us.....we’re all medical professionals
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2018-08-12 at 3:50 PM UTC
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2018-08-12 at 3:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist its prohibition that makes it such a problem. its because of prohibition that nobody knows the purity of their supply from one bag to the next. you can't judge your dose properly when you don't know the purity and this is why people accidentally overdose. because of prohibition people hide away to use where nobody will find them if they overdose. and prohibition pushes up the prices so users have to resort to theft and often violence in order to fund the habit. prohibition means suppliers cannot sort their disputes through the usual legal processes and so end up resorting to violence as the only solution open to them. without prohibition all those problems would go away. there would be much less risk of you being violently robbed by a desperate addict and everybodies insurance premiums would go right down. why anybody is in favor of prohibition which is so damaging to society is beyond me.
also just think of all the money saved by the authorities trying to fight the drug problem, less tax dollars spent on law enforcement, prisons, courts and legal costs. all that money could be put to much better use making your community a much nicer richer place to live.
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2018-08-12 at 4:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist its prohibition that makes it such a problem. its because of prohibition that nobody knows the purity of their supply from one bag to the next. you can't judge your dose properly when you don't know the purity and this is why people accidentally overdose. because of prohibition people hide away to use where nobody will find them if they overdose. and prohibition pushes up the prices so users have to resort to theft and often violence in order to fund the habit. prohibition means suppliers cannot sort their disputes through the usual legal processes and so end up resorting to violence as the only solution open to them. without prohibition all those problems would go away. there would be much less risk of you being violently robbed by a desperate addict and everybodies insurance premiums would go right down. why anybody is in favor of prohibition which is so damaging to society is beyond me.
also just think of all the money saved by the authorities trying to fight the drug problem, less tax dollars spent on law enforcement, prisons, courts and legal costs. all that money could be put to much better use making your community a much nicer richer place to live.
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I’ll have to disagree with you on that. To me, heroin is the mother of all shit drugs. I’ve never tried it, but I’ve seen what it does to people. There’s a reason that opiates are a controlled substance, but even though they are controlled, people still get devastatingly addicted, can’t get it, then turn to heroin.
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2018-08-12 at 4:08 PM UTCThose of you that are pro drug go ahead and use it you'll wind up dead or homeless and visiting the local soup kitchen. You think you know it all but you don't. So take some 'monkey dust' and climb the side of a building you won't hear me say "I told you so" when they scrape your bloody remnant off the sidewalk.
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2018-08-12 at 4:13 PM UTCYou can trust us.....we’re all medical professionals
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2018-08-12 at 4:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist its prohibition that makes it such a problem. its because of prohibition that nobody knows the purity of their supply from one bag to the next. you can't judge your dose properly when you don't know the purity and this is why people accidentally overdose.
the only two statistically significant causes for overdose are A) intentional suicide attempt and B) hotshots, ie. people using (usually shooting) way too much because they underestimated the purity of a new batch
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2018-08-12 at 4:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL This doesn't change the fact that heroin is still illegal, and therefore incredibly stupid to do for all the reasons you listed here.
not if you're smart and know how to use it properly. there is a right way and a wrong way to use heroin. just because a lot of people use it the wrong way doesn't mean everyone who uses it is incredibly stupid.
i mean you can overdose on water and some people have. does that make everybody who uses water incredibly stupid then?
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2018-08-12 at 4:40 PM UTC
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2018-08-12 at 4:40 PM UTCAww come on Narc, you’re beginning to go way overboard on your rationalizations.
Comparing water and heroin?
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2018-08-12 at 4:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist its because of prohibition that nobody knows the purity of their supply from one bag to the next. you can't judge your dose properly when you don't know the purity and this is why people accidentally overdose. because of prohibition people hide away to use where nobody will find them if they overdose. and prohibition pushes up the prices so users have to resort to theft and often violence in order to fund the habit. prohibition means suppliers cannot sort their disputes through the usual legal processes and so end up resorting to violence as the only solution open to them. without prohibition all those problems would go away. there would be much less risk of you being violently robbed by a desperate addict and everybodies insurance premiums would go right down. why anybody is in favor of prohibition which is so damaging to society is beyond me.
^^^this post made by you negates your subsequent post below…..it also indicates quite clearly users resort to violence to fund the “habit” which sounds more like the behavior of someone who is incapable of functioning without the drug…..or violence would be unnecessary since you can function without it…it’s more of a question of being addicted than one of stupidity
Originally posted by NARCassist not if you're smart and know how to use it properly. there is a right way and a wrong way to use heroin. just because a lot of people use it the wrong way doesn't mean everyone who uses it is incredibly stupid.
i mean you can overdose on water and some people have. does that make everybody who uses water incredibly stupid then?
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2018-08-12 at 4:46 PM UTCWater kills way more people than Heroin. Someone should ban it.
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2018-08-12 at 4:47 PM UTC
