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The nature of addiction
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2018-08-10 at 10 PM UTCGetting a disease is generally not a choice.
Getting addicted is.
You made the choice to do the drug. -
2018-08-10 at 10:03 PM UTC
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2018-08-10 at 10:12 PM UTCCalling addiction a disease is a cop out
Acquiring an actual medical disease and becoming an addict is like comparing apples & oranges
Besides if it actually were a disease there would be a ton more people collecting SSDI because they’re addicts....
Originally posted by Bill Krozby so you're saying getting the aids from nigger dicks and shooting drugs isn't a choice? smh… you can't fix stupid i guess..
Actually that’s NOT what he said....read it again idiot....you choose to engage in those behaviors is quite clearly what he’s saying......I guess heroin kills more brain cells than you thought -
2018-08-10 at 10:13 PM UTCYou dumbass hookers are so unenlightened, eating too much and getting diabetes is a choice, smoking and getting lung cancer is a choice, it doesn't matter and you a fucking retarded. You are on a forum with a place called "better living through chemistry" and you walk around oblivious to drug use yet highly opinionated. I'll listen to you when you want to talk about being a prostitute but when in comes to drugs everyone here knows more about it than you.
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2018-08-10 at 10:15 PM UTCHeroin doesn't kill brain cells you fucking moron, alcohol is one of the few that does.
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2018-08-10 at 10:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by EllariaSand Calling addiction a disease is a cop out
Acquiring an actual medical disease and becoming an addict is like comparing apples & oranges
Besides if it actually were a disease there would be a ton more people collecting SSDI because they’re addicts….
Actually that’s NOT what he said….read it again idiot….you choose to engage in those behaviors is quite clearly what he’s saying……I guess heroin kills more brain cells than you thought
u mad? -
2018-08-10 at 10:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by EllariaSand Calling addiction a disease is a cop out
Acquiring an actual medical disease and becoming an addict is like comparing apples & oranges
Besides if it actually were a disease there would be a ton more people collecting SSDI because they’re addicts….
Actually that’s NOT what he said….read it again idiot….you choose to engage in those behaviors is quite clearly what he’s saying……I guess heroin kills more brain cells than you thought
heroin doesn't kill braincells you dumb fuck it just changes neural pathways, are you by chance a functional retard? -
2018-08-10 at 10:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Madman You dumbass hookers are so unenlightened, eating too much and getting diabetes is a choice, smoking and getting lung cancer is a choice, it doesn't matter and you a fucking retarded. You are on a forum with a place called "better living through chemistry" and you walk around oblivious to drug use yet highly opinionated. I'll listen to you when you want to talk about being a prostitute but when in comes to drugs everyone here knows more about it than you.
Nothing wrong with being a hooker, your mom enjoyed my cack last night -
2018-08-10 at 10:26 PM UTC"better living through chemistry"
What's so better about it? -
2018-08-10 at 10:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Madman Heroin doesn't kill brain cells you fucking moron, alcohol is one of the few that does.
Originally posted by Bill Krozby heroin doesn't kill braincells you dumb fuck it just changes neural pathways, are you by chance a functional retard?
Rationalization at its best 😂😂🤣 I think you’re actually the barely functional retard darling
Heroin often contains additives, such as sugar, starch, or powdered milk, that can clog blood vessels leading to the lungs, liver, kidneys, or brain, causing permanent damage. Also, sharing drug injection equipment and having impaired judgment from drug use can increase the risk of contracting infectious diseases such as HIV and hepatitis (see "Injection Drug Use, HIV, and Hepatitis").
Like all addictive substances, heroin affects major organ systems in the body, especially the brain.
That “permanent brain damage” is actually quite evident in both your posts.....sorry suckas.....you lose
But you’re most likely very used to being losers.....
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/heroin
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/heroin-treatment/brain-damage/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10423852
studies have shown that the disintegration of the brain starts to appear very soon after the start of chronic heroin abuse, and there is also brain damage often seen in people because of overdoses as well as injuries that occurred when they were impaired by the drug. There has been some evidence that opiate abusers shown signs of brain damage similar to what happens in the early stages of Alzheimer’s, and there can be outward signs of this brain damage such as permanent tremors.It’s important for people to realize how severe what heroin does to the brain can be, and it doesn’t take years of abuse for the drug to take its toll on the brain. It can happen relatively quickly and be difficult often impossible to reverse. -
2018-08-10 at 10:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by EllariaSand Calling addiction a disease is a cop out
No, it's an accurate description of the condition. Denying responsibility for addiction may be a cop out, but that's not the same thing as correctly saying it's a disease.Besides if it actually were a disease there would be a ton more people collecting SSDI because they’re addicts….
This is atrocious logic. SSDI is not the authority on what constitutes disease, nor does it count disease as a necessary requirement for collecting it. E.g. people unable to walk due to spinal injury do not have a disease but are entitled to an SSDI benefit. -
2018-08-10 at 11:08 PM UTCYeah the SSDI comment was stupid
However years ago I knew a few women who got their welfare payments extended after all the kids they had to collect aged out by pretending to be getting treated for alcoholism.....but still drank -
2018-08-10 at 11:14 PM UTC
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2018-08-11 at 1:24 AM UTC
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2018-08-11 at 1:47 AM UTCYour argument started out as directly killing brain cells and turned into random info about cuts damaging blood vessels, diseases caught through IV, and a vague claim about "brain disintegration", so its obvious that your starting out at a conclusion that suits your biases and getting there through whatever means necessary, this is inherently unscientific and very amateur. Have you ever heard of the scientific method?
Your arguing that addiction isn't a brain disease and also arguing that opiates cause brain disintegration, at this point I don't need to have a point and can just call out all the flaws in your logic. I already knew that heroin abuse can cause tremors cuz i've met people with them and your shitty google powered reasoning isn't telling me anything new. Why am I so much better at this than you after my brain has started disintegrating? I guess some people can just afford to lose more brain cells than others. -
2018-08-11 at 1:54 AM UTC
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2018-08-11 at 4:44 AM UTCeveryone's filling a hole with something
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