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Which type of child abuse do you consider to be the worst?
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2018-08-01 at 4:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL You can't honestly be comparing sweatshops to being put in child porn. Like sure, sweat shops can be awful, but clothing and tech sweatshops are pretty safe.
Better examples would be mines, oil refineries, cocoa farms, etc. If you're a kid working in a factory nowadays, your 3rd world life isn't bad. You get paid garbage but those kids in mines lose lives.
Most clothes/tech isn't produced by kids anyway. Biggest issue is with young teenagers who chose to work. Like remember that cave in thailand? Youngest was 11.
Fucking a child on camera is significantly worse. Watching that, and getting off to the trauma? Yes it's less damage done to the kid, but its pretty fucked up morally and should be persecuted against so that no market is left to thrive topside.
At least for the kid, that iphone job presents opportunity. Shitty opportunities by our standards, but there's a reason young people the world over choose to take on these jobs.
and what's more §m£ÂgØL, i think you honestly do actually believe all that shite an all.
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2018-08-01 at 4:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL You can't honestly be comparing sweatshops to being put in child porn. Like sure, sweat shops can be awful, but clothing and tech sweatshops are pretty safe.
Better examples would be mines, oil refineries, cocoa farms, etc. If you're a kid working in a factory nowadays, your 3rd world life isn't bad. You get paid garbage but those kids in mines lose lives.
Most clothes/tech isn't produced by kids anyway. Biggest issue is with young teenagers who chose to work. Like remember that cave in thailand? Youngest was 11.
Fucking a child on camera is significantly worse. Watching that, and getting off to the trauma? Yes it's less damage done to the kid, but its pretty fucked up morally and should be persecuted against so that no market is left to thrive topside.
At least for the kid, that iphone job presents opportunity. Shitty opportunities by our standards, but there's a reason young people the world over choose to take on these jobs.
its like child prostitution in third world countries too. by our standards its horrible, and rightly so. but the reality over in some of these countries is that it can make the difference between a family eating this month or starving to death. its all too easy for us to sit over here and say that we must do all we can to stop child prostitution in countries like cambodia. but then we've got plenty to eat and have no idea what its like for a whole family going multiple weeks between meals. starvation is probably even more horrific than child sexual abuse in some way.
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2018-08-01 at 5:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist the answer you were supposed to give was that as a consumer of the child pornography sophie is creating a demand for it. as children are abused in order to produce the child porn that he consumes, he is indirectly responsible for the abuse inflicted on those poor children.
this ...
this is wrong.
most child pornographies are distributed and shared for free, that is to say pro bono and without any monetary compensation to the maker.
most child lovers are already in love with their child/childs, and will make love to them, and sometimes they capture these beautiful love making moments with cameras, for the sake of posterity.
and sometimes these magical moments got shared. that is all. child lovers are going to make love with their childs irregardless of whether there are demands for these posterity tapes or not. -
2018-08-01 at 5:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL Fucking a child on camera is significantly worse. Watching that, and getting off to the trauma? Yes it's less damage done to the kid, but its pretty fucked up morally and should be persecuted against so that no market is left to thrive topside.
A majority of CP is produced by children themselves. No man is even present in those, it's just a young girl with a webcam. Some of it is produced by semi-professional studios mostly based out of former East-Bloc countries. Every piece of studio produced content i've seen never had any rape or penetration for that matter in some form or another. The only content that features actual rape are those videos and pictures uploaded by actual abusers. Which for the record i avoid like the plague.
Moreover, a couple of the bigger deep web resources(Whether they are still around or not) explicitly forbid content in which the child is visibly upset, being hurt, or actually raped.
If you're getting off on the trauma of the child, you're not a pedophile, you're a sexual sadist. And with regards to those types, i can tell you, i fully support the notion of them being punished to the utmost severity of the law. -
2018-08-01 at 5:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL Fucking a child on camera is significantly worse. Watching that, and getting off to the trauma?
this is what mainstream media want you to believe, this is after all their propaganda.
im not denying that there exist some hurtcore porn out there, they do, but most child pornography available on the internet are nothing but lovely home videos of couples making love to each other.
they laughed, they kissed, and they made love to each other, that is what the average, so called ''child pornography'' contained.
no trauma, no screaming, no tearing and no blood letting.
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2018-08-01 at 6:24 PM UTCThey're all pretty terrible, but in order from worst to least bad: sexual, psychological, physical. Sexual abuse turns kids child molesters. Psychological abuse turns kids into serial killers and rapists. Physical abuse turns kids into violent assholes. And all of them can emotionally ruin a person. 🤔
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2018-08-01 at 6:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS They're all pretty terrible, but in order from worst to least bad: sexual, psychological, physical. Sexual abuse turns kids child molesters. Psychological abuse turns kids into serial killers and rapists. Physical abuse turns kids into violent assholes. And all of them can emotionally ruin a person. 🤔
Provide documentation to prove your opinionated commentary.
(This means I am calling BULLSHIT!) -
2018-08-01 at 6:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by cupocheer Provide documentation to prove your opinionated commentary.
(This means I am calling BULLSHIT!)
Oh wow, HTS is opinionated? At least she has opinions of her own.
No one owes you anything and you need to learn how to discuss in a civilised manner.
This is a touchy issue for you, very emotive I notice. Why? -
2018-08-01 at 6:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL You can't honestly be comparing sweatshops to being put in child porn. Like sure, sweat shops can be awful, but clothing and tech sweatshops are pretty safe.
Better examples would be mines, oil refineries, cocoa farms, etc. If you're a kid working in a factory nowadays, your 3rd world life isn't bad. You get paid garbage but those kids in mines lose lives.
Most clothes/tech isn't produced by kids anyway. Biggest issue is with young teenagers who chose to work. Like remember that cave in thailand? Youngest was 11.
Fucking a child on camera is significantly worse. Watching that, and getting off to the trauma? Yes it's less damage done to the kid, but its pretty fucked up morally and should be persecuted against so that no market is left to thrive topside.
At least for the kid, that iphone job presents opportunity. Shitty opportunities by our standards, but there's a reason young people the world over choose to take on these jobs.
Some CP production compensates the parents of the children involved and represents an economic opportunity for that kid's family. Does that make it OK? Of course not, which is why other economic expoitation of children in factories or mines is also unacceptable. Let's threaten anyone who buys a nike product with life imprisonment, which actually means being raped and then killed, that way we'll eleminate the market for the ouput of these industries that exploit children. -
2018-08-01 at 6:44 PM UTCTo be clear I'm not defending CP here, I actually think the executives of most of the garment industry and many other industries that exploit child labor should be hanged and economic support of those companies that do so should be illegal.
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2018-08-01 at 6:47 PM UTC
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2018-08-01 at 6:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS They're all pretty terrible, but in order from worst to least bad: sexual, psychological, physical. Sexual abuse turns kids child molesters. Psychological abuse turns kids into serial killers and rapists. Physical abuse turns kids into violent assholes. And all of them can emotionally ruin a person. 🤔
but physical abuse can and sometimes does result in the death of the child. the 'baby p' case was a prime example of this.
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2018-08-01 at 6:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny To be clear I'm not defending CP here, I actually think the executives of most of the garment industry and many other industries that exploit child labor should be hanged and economic support of those companies that do so should be illegal.
You want to impose your cultural concepts of justice on the world.
Global white supremacy. -
2018-08-01 at 6:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill Oh wow, HTS is opinionated? At least she has opinions of her own.
No one owes you anything and you need to learn how to discuss in a civilised manner.
This is a touchy issue for you, very emotive I notice. Why?
Aren't you positively precious?
I simply commented on a post and called BS to the unsubstantiated claim of the poster.
Poor little puss. Needs a coote to come to its rescue? lol (gives transparent meaning to brown nose, doesn't it?) -
2018-08-01 at 6:56 PM UTCHey "Vicky", remember your 'dog', Cooter?
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2018-08-01 at 7:14 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-08-01 at 7:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill You want to impose your cultural concepts of justice on the world.
Global white supremacy.
Does that bother you? I don't think "whites" have a monopoly on the notion that children ought to receive some level of education and leisure and shouldn't be forced to do potentially dangerous labor, but hey, if we do then I'm all about that global white supremacy.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-08-01 at 7:21 PM UTC
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2018-08-01 at 7:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny To be clear I'm not defending CP here, I actually think the executives of most of the garment industry and many other industries that exploit child labor should be hanged and economic support of those companies that do so should be illegal.
childrens dont work becos they want to,
they work becos they have to. -
2018-08-01 at 7:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny To be clear I'm not defending CP here, I actually think the executives of most of the garment industry and many other industries that exploit child labor should be hanged and economic support of those companies that do so should be illegal.
Lanny, who exactly wins in that scenario?
The consumer who pays twice as much for sneakers, or the child who now has no income/gets a more dangerous job?
