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Eurasian race, the one true master race.
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2018-07-23 at 6:27 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 6:37 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 6:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny See, the comedy of the situation is it's the opposite. Your denial of the cultural/intellectual output of the era is founded in modern anti-muslim sentiment, productive historical periods in Islam make you uncomfortable because it challenges your "inbred stupid mudskins" narrative. If you want to talk about problems with modern "muslim countries" then that's fine, there's a lot about islam as practiced today to loathe. But this doesn't change the fact this has not always been the case historically. You trying to pass this off as liberal slanted historical revisionism is a joke because it's your political slant that obligates you to deny the possibility of a culturally productive period is islamic history.
Wrong. in fact I would love if the Muslims had a glorious intellectual golden age or something. But the evidence is really, incredibly weak.
Especially compared to the various ages that have gone before the Islamic Golden Age qualifies as nothing special at all.
Why aren't you talking about the Babylonians, or the Achaemenids, or the Ancient Egyptians, etc?
It's all just one incredibly contrived attempt to make Islam out to be super awesome or something. It's just a dumb ass religion for 85 IQ yokels.
I would also love if Muslims got their shit together today. Bring back Baathism. Go Muslims. Drive Israel into the ocean. But objectively, these people just don't have the capability. Ultimately I blame urbanisation. -
2018-07-23 at 6:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny You trying to pass this off as liberal slanted historical revisionism is a joke because it's your political slant that obligates you to deny the possibility of a culturally productive period is islamic history.
The essence of multiculturalism is that all cultures and religions are “equal”. In this context our Western governments launched a great “campaign of deception” against their own people with the goal of creating a falsified version of the Islamic and European Civilisation, in order to make them equal. According to them, this is needed in order to successfully implement multiculturalism. Islamists, Arab Nationalists and Marxist theorists have been at the forefront of falsifying our history since WW2. Especially Edward Said's book Orientalism published in 1978, have been the driving force in this process.
In the past, Europe has had a stereotypical view of Islam just as Islam has had a stereotypical view of us - and these views are largely hostile. For century after century Islam was an enormous threat to what might loosely be called Christendom. It shaped every aspect of European history and was directly responsible for Europe’s colonial empires. Up till around 1750 they were a dangerous and direct competitor to our interests. Gibbon writing in the 1780s was the first to think that the danger had passed. On a local scale the threat lasted even longer. Barbary pirates ravaged the coast of England up till the 1830s carting off coastal villages into slavery and at even later dates on the west coast of Ireland and Iceland. And this was at the height of the British Empire. More than 1,5 million Europeans have been enslaved since the first Jihadi invasion of Andalusia, most of which were brought to North Africa.
Encyclopedia Britannica
Fact: Encyclopedia Britannica was first published in 1768. The contributors often came from other countries and included some of the world's most respected authorities in their fields.
Western state sanctioned negationism or “politically motivated historical revisionism” on the subject of Islam started for the first time in Great Britain in the late 19th century. The process was politically motivated with the goal of creating a good foundation for British-Muslim cooperation and trade.
During the Russo-Turkish War[3], Russia succeeded in defeating the Islamic Ottoman Empire. In 1878, after the “Congress of Berlin[4]”, Disraeli-Great Britain decided to strike a deal with the Ottomans promising to protect them militarily from Russia for “thirty pieces of silver” which in this case was Cyprus. In order to improve British-Ottoman relationships it was decided to introduce a wide scale revision of Encyclopedia Britannica (10th edition and onward) and other source materials which up to then had described Islam, Muslims and Islamic practices as “evil”. This was the beginning of the official European historical falsification process.
To understand this we need to study British-Russian relations:
The super power of the 19th century, Great Britain, waged a "territorial war" with the other potential super power: Russia. Where interests of the two crossed was - Balkans (then under Turkish occupation).
It would be most natural that Russia should have the influence in the area. Most of the subdued Balkan nations (Serbs, Greeks, Rumanians, and Bulgarians) are Eastern Orthodox - like Russians. That did not fit British interests. That is how Britain allied itself with Turkey and invented the myth of the Muslim tolerance ….
Unfortunately for us, more than 95% of today’s Journalists, editors, publishers are pro-Eurabians (support European multiculturalism). The same goes for 85% of Western European politicians and more than 90% of EU parliamentarians.
Also, we shouldn’t forget that it’s the EU [5] that is the driving force behind European revisionism on Islam in Europe.
From The Eurabia Code:
Euro-Arab Dialogue Symposia conducted in Venice (1977) and Hamburg (1983) included recommendations that have been successfully implemented…
4. The necessity of cooperation between European and Arab specialists in order to present a positive picture of Arab-Islamic civilisation and contemporary Arab issues to the educated public in Europe.
The Euro-Arab Dialogue (EAD) is a political, economic and cultural institution designed to ensure perfect cohesion between Europeans and Arabs. Its structure was set up at conferences in Copenhagen (15 December 1973), and Paris (31 July 1974). The principal agent of this policy is the European Parliamentary Association for Euro-Arab Cooperation, founded in 1974. The other principal organs of The Dialogue are the MEDEA Institute and the European Institute of Research on Mediterranean and Euro-Arab Cooperation, created in 1995 with the backing of the European Commission.
In an interview with Jamie Glazov of Frontpage Magazine, Ye'or explained how "in domestic policy, the EAD established a close cooperation between the Arab and European media television, radio, journalists, publishing houses, academia, cultural centers, school textbooks, student and youth associations, tourism. Church interfaith dialogues were determinant in the development of this policy. Eurabia is therefore this strong Euro-Arab network of associations - a comprehensive symbiosis with cooperation and partnership on policy, economy, demography and culture."
Eurabia's driving force, the Parliamentary Association for Euro-Arab Cooperation, was created in Paris in 1974. It now has over six hundred members - from all major European political parties - active in their own national parliaments, as well as in the European parliament. France continues to be the key protagonist of this association.
One of the documents Bat Ye'or was kind enough to send me (which she mentions in the French version of her book about Eurabia but not in the English version) is the Common Strategy of the European Council - Vision of the EU for the Mediterranean Region, from June 19th 2000.
It includes many recommendations, such as:
"to elaborate partnership-building measures, notably by promoting regular consultations and exchanges of information with its Mediterranean partners, support the interconnection of infrastructure between Mediterranean partners, and between them and the EU, take all necessary measures to facilitate and encourage the involvement of civil society as well as the further development of human exchanges between the EU and the Mediterranean partners. NGOs will be encouraged to participate in cooperation at bilateral and regional levels. Particular attention will be paid to the media and universities [my emphasis]."
The Strategy also wants to "pursue, in order to fight intolerance, racism and xenophobia, the dialogue between cultures and civilisations."
The Algiers Declaration [11] for a Shared Vision of the Future was made after a Congress held in Algeria in February 2006. The document states that: "It is essential to create a Euro-Mediterranean entity founded on Universal Values" and that "It is crucial to positively emphasise all common cultural heritage, even if marginalised or forgotten." A Common Action Plan draws up a large number of recommendations on how to achieve this new Euro-Mediterranean entity. -
2018-07-23 at 7:04 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 7:06 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 7:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill Wrong. in fact I would love if the Muslims had a glorious intellectual golden age or something. But the evidence is really, incredibly weak.
Especially compared to the various ages that have gone before the Islamic Golden Age qualifies as nothing special at all.
Why aren't you talking about the Babylonians, or the Achaemenids, or the Ancient Egyptians, etc?
It's all just one incredibly contrived attempt to make Islam out to be super awesome or something. It's just a dumb ass religion for 85 IQ yokels.
I would also love if Muslims got their shit together today. Bring back Baathism. Go Muslims. Drive Israel into the ocean. But objectively, these people just don't have the capability. Ultimately I blame urbanisation.
Because you are a retard and cannot understand the simple fact that those people were not called into question here, but sand nigger handsome and well tanned individuals in particular, and the case for them being genetically inferior is exceptionally weak. -
2018-07-23 at 7:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Because you are a retard and cannot understand the simple fact that those people were not called into question here, but sand nigger handsome and well tanned individuals in particular, and the case for them being genetically inferior is exceptionally weak.
Exhibit A, ladies and gentlemen. -
2018-07-23 at 7:20 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 7:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine *make an edit on wikipedia page*
*within minutes account banned and page revised*
that site is controlled by jedis and marxists, you're not allowed to state facts only opinions approved by the minitrue.
True. When it comes to the jedis don't even bother trying to correct stuff, or ask why relevant details are being omitted. Some shut-in "editor" with no life will fuck you over every time. -
2018-07-23 at 7:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine *make an edit on wikipedia page*
*within minutes account banned and page revised*
that site is controlled by jedis and marxists, you're not allowed to state facts only opinions approved by the minitrue.
learn from scrawny.
the trick is to register as many alts as humanly possible before you strike. -
2018-07-23 at 7:37 PM UTC
The use of paper spread from China into Muslim regions in the eighth century, arriving in Al-Andalus on the Iberian peninsula, present-day Spain in the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
Well that's the Islamic Golden Age explained in one line. They got paper from the Chinese, so suddenly the normal shit they output actually got preserved.
Until Genghis Khan fucked all their stupid fucking books into the river.With all other libraries in Baghdad, the House of Wisdom was destroyed by the army of Hulagu during the Siege of Baghdad. The books from Baghdad’s libraries were thrown into the Tigris River in such quantities that the river ran black with the ink from the books.
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2018-07-23 at 8:07 PM UTCThis post has been edited by a bot I made to preserve my privacy.
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2018-07-23 at 8:19 PM UTCeurasians have tiny penis's
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2018-07-23 at 8:21 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 8:24 PM UTC
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2018-07-24 at 1:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill Muslims can do no wrong. Europeans can do no right.
It's funny that you're trying to act like a productive period of history in the middle east is part of some European smear campaign but no on even mentioned Europeans until you came in trying to play the white victim card lol -
2018-07-24 at 2:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny It's funny that you're trying to act like a productive period of history in the middle east is part of some European smear campaign but no on even mentioned Europeans until you came in trying to play the white victim card lol
Your snarky gotchas don't raise the tone of the conversation. -
2018-07-24 at 2:41 AM UTCThe tone was about as low as it's gonna get at the "proto-MORALLY SUPERIOR BEINGs" meme of an argument.
If you want to argue for a period of asian history with greater cultural output than the islamic golden age then go for it.