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  1. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cootehill Don't you keep logs?

    He doesn't want the word "Nigger" to come up with his name in a clear racist overtone. in which he claims he never said but then it was right there.

    but "faggot" is somehow a hate crime and not a schoolyard insult that adults often reflect from in humorous ways.


    So is lanny another one of these James Comey buddies like Jeff Hunter? when TSHTPF
  2. Lanny Bird of Courage
    oh, you're t2k1? Ok, I apologize for responding to you.
  3. Cootehill African Astronaut [my unsymmetrically blurry oregano]
    Originally posted by Lanny I do, the closest thing to personal information they contain is IP addresses which can not be resolved to a person without a warrant (well that or the NSA's illegal backdoor spying) which I don't disclose to any third party. I think this is a far cry from "everyone being monitored at all times".

    IP addresses are a form of PI under GDPR.
    https://eugdprcompliant.com/personal-data/

    Why are you monitoring us like criminals?

    I think that it is possible to monitor everyone in a manner that doesn't compromise day to day activities, and only look up information on where people were and where they are when a crime happens. All such activity should be made public. I think this sort of openness would make everyone better off, safer, richer, and happier.

    You haven't produced an argument why that shouldn't be done, apart from "muh privacy".
  4. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Lanny oh, you're t2k1? Ok, I apologize for responding to you.

    am I.. am I, Lanny?
  5. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cootehill IP addresses are a form of PI under GDPR.
    https://eugdprcompliant.com/personal-data/

    Why are you monitoring us like criminals?

    I think that it is possible to monitor everyone in a manner that doesn't compromise day to day activities, and only look up information on where people were and where they are when a crime happens. All such activity should be made public. I think this sort of openness would make everyone better off, safer, richer, and happier.

    You haven't produced an argument why that shouldn't be done, apart from "muh privacy".

    You may not believe this.. but he's good friends with Zoklet who was working for the FBI and Zoklet took over Jeff Hunter's site.

    I proved its the same guy that I suspected Jeff Hunter (Owner of totse) was. while being on here.
    I literally have been getting several gas light soft threats from what may be agents. or even people they use (including former criminals)

    Jeff hunter worked with James Comey.. they and Ray Daleo (A very rich man who's company outsources jobs from America, Canada and the UK to third world countries-- including call centers that I once was layed off from.. but didn't find out recently until after I was researching Jeff Hunter.. so that didn't become a personal reason to do so)

    a guy at paypal who is like a CTO or COO was the CTO for former President Obama as his 2012 campain desinger and catchphrase guy from the 2008 "HOPE"

    He now works for paypal (and I picked him up before I found out about him later on.. apparently i pick up lots of managers with interesting advice to me over the past 4 years. clearly ad-hoc intent for rigging it this way.

    Lanny will play it off as if I'm crazy but trust me.. the evidence is there and there is tons of it now.

    well.. back to the guy from Paypal and CTO for Obama's campaign. His name is Harper Reed. I'm sure he's a nice guy. and I'm not accusing him of being a bad person. but he is linked which can not be synchronicity. See.. he borrowed a page from totse.com (or the dialup which had the same info) and he used the information on it to build a pipebomb and blow up his friends parent's haystack on their farm. he got into trouble for it. and told multiple website news sites (including vice.com) of this and that he got it from totse.com

    no big whoop. except.. Obama had hired him personally.. because he liked his work. and that Obama hired Jame Comey to be his FBI director. James Comey left Bridgewater Associate (Ray Daleo a friend of Obama) and Harper Reed. Jeff Hunter Worked with James Comey and Harper Reed got Jeff Hunters "How to make a bomb" recipe from the Bad Ideas or Kaboom (Kafuckingboom?) forum.

    there is a lot more.

    There was a very detailed thread.. one of the largest on totse.com which went into hundreds of pages. where someone was claiming they will highjack planes and fly them into the Pentagon, Whitehouse and WTC of NYC Stock exchange. over and over. they just kept coming back and telling everyone they weren't joking when it was a fairly common practice to make jokes (Though not this elaborate) on totse. it's sort of a 9/11 manifesto but not the one in which the guy in prison wrote. but much of what he said reflected this.

    I wasn't trying to get lanny into trouble but I have been research and rehashing this shit for 17 years now. and Lanny's website became a piece of the puzzle (metaphysic photo with Jeff behind it) as well as some new info I found out about.
  6. S6x African Astronaut
    Also, Obama released Bill Ayer from a lengthy prison term for being apart of the 1970s WUO (Weather Underground Organization) which Bill Ayer was great friends with Hillary and Bill clinton during college years.

    And Bill spent much years in Berkeley (Where NirvanaNet started up.. which totse.com was one of the 5 or so BBS to link to NirvanaNet) and Bill Ayers originally was out of Chicago with Obama and Harper Reed.


    WUO
  7. apt Tuskegee Airman
    The author of this post has returned to nothingness
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  8. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Cootehill IP addresses are a form of PI under GDPR.
    https://eugdprcompliant.com/personal-data/

    Why are you monitoring us like criminals?

    IP addresses are not categorically personal information as I don't have the necessary information to resolve them. See this decision:

    https://www.alstonprivacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ECJ_Breyer_Judgment.pdf

    and shorter summary:

    https://www.alstonprivacy.com/ecj-declares-ip-addresses-personal-data/

    Basically since I'm neither an ISP nor an authority that can request data from ISPs, my holding of IP addresses does not qualify as personal information.

    This doesn't really matter though since we're not talking about the GDPR, the GDPR does not prohibit the collection of personal information, the EU does not have jurisdiction over me, and the GDPR is a piece of legislation that I think does something good but is far from the definitive authority on human rights to privacy.

    It also doesn't matter because wether or not this site is GDPR compliant, or even if I respect user privacy or not, it doesn't change the fact of the matter as to wether we have a right to privacy or not.

    I think that it is possible to monitor everyone in a manner that doesn't compromise day to day activities, and only look up information on where people were and where they are when a crime happens. All such activity should be made public. I think this sort of openness would make everyone better off, safer, richer, and happier.

    How do you both make information public and only allow it to be looked up when a crime happens? If you only disclose information after a crime happens, then the vast majority of surveillance information will never be disclosed which is the opposite of "public".

    But perhaps most importantly, the empirical evidence for this (constant surveillance, review/disclosure only in the case reasonable need for it) being possible is next to zero, at least in the US, since we have overwhelming evidence of American intelligence agencies breaking our own laws to conduct surveillance without a warrant, without probable cause, and which led to the acquisition of no pertinent info. One of the more popular uses of the surveillance infrastructure in this country is the well documented sabotage of political opposition.

    You haven't produced an argument why that shouldn't be done, apart from "muh privacy".

    I just gave you a good one: our country a nice history of abusing surveillance powers and exactly zero reason to expect that's going to change. I gave you another more ideological reason earlier: surveillance inherently discourages and punishes deviance, it is a mechanism of socialization. Just as some socialization is justified, I've argued so is some surveillance, but either in excess is psychologically damaging to human beings and insults our dignity as people. Some amount of human freedom is justifiable despite it's potential for abuse, both for human wellbeing and for social wellbeing as societies do require some degree of social deviance to ward off cultural stagnation.
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  9. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Lanny Some amount of human freedom is justifiable despite it's potential for abuse, both for human wellbeing and for social wellbeing as societies do require some degree of social deviance to ward off cultural stagnation.

    so you prefer to live in a dangerous world with freedoms instead of in a safe world with cultural stagnation ????
  10. PrettyHateMachine African Astronaut
    Originally posted by benny vader so you prefer to live in a dangerous world with freedoms instead of in a safe world with cultural stagnation ????

    I would rather live in a world of chaos and freedom
  11. PrettyHateMachine African Astronaut
    btw I saw this thread the other day before coming here and seeing this thread popped up on the front page

  12. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Lanny IP addresses are not categorically personal information as I don't have the necessary information to resolve them. See this decision:

    https://www.alstonprivacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ECJ_Breyer_Judgment.pdf

    and shorter summary:

    https://www.alstonprivacy.com/ecj-declares-ip-addresses-personal-data/

    Basically since I'm neither an ISP nor an authority that can request data from ISPs, my holding of IP addresses does not qualify as personal information.

    This doesn't really matter though since we're not talking about the GDPR, the GDPR does not prohibit the collection of personal information, the EU does not have jurisdiction over me, and the GDPR is a piece of legislation that I think does something good but is far from the definitive authority on human rights to privacy.

    It also doesn't matter because wether or not this site is GDPR compliant, or even if I respect user privacy or not, it doesn't change the fact of the matter as to wether we have a right to privacy or not.



    How do you both make information public and only allow it to be looked up when a crime happens? If you only disclose information after a crime happens, then the vast majority of surveillance information will never be disclosed which is the opposite of "public".

    But perhaps most importantly, the empirical evidence for this (constant surveillance, review/disclosure only in the case reasonable need for it) being possible is next to zero, at least in the US, since we have overwhelming evidence of American intelligence agencies breaking our own laws to conduct surveillance without a warrant, without probable cause, and which led to the acquisition of no pertinent info. One of the more popular uses of the surveillance infrastructure in this country is the well documented sabotage of political opposition.



    I just gave you a good one: our country a nice history of abusing surveillance powers and exactly zero reason to expect that's going to change. I gave you another more ideological reason earlier: surveillance inherently discourages and punishes deviance, it is a mechanism of socialization. Just as some socialization is justified, I've argued so is some surveillance, but either in excess is psychologically damaging to human beings and insults our dignity as people. Some amount of human freedom is justifiable despite it's potential for abuse, both for human wellbeing and for social wellbeing as societies do require some degree of social deviance to ward off cultural stagnation.

    But you do collect e-mail addresses...

    Name and Email Address:

    "Email addresses are designed to be processed by computer – no one can have any doubt about that. And the combination of name and email is an absolutely unique combination globally and therefore an individual can be identified from that data. It is personal data. The fact it is a work email is irrelevant. DPA makes no distinction whether the data is in a work or private context.

    Ok, what about just email address? What if we have a shared family email address: family@brining.com, which doesn’t identify me directly as it could relate to any one of my five family members. Take a look at the second part of the definition of DPA Personal Data. If we are processing other information such as name which in conjunction with the mail address allows me to become identifiable then it falls under the scope of the DPA definition. Name + email address can be used to identify me. But think about this a while longer. Say we don’t have names – we ONLY process age and email address. Is that personal data? Well, each of us in my family is a different age and therefore each member of my family is clearly identifiable from the combination of age and email address. Personal Data? I would say so. But think about the context. In a mailing list of 25,000 email addresses what are the chances of it containing personal data? Pretty high I’d say."
  13. iam_asiam68 African Astronaut
    this thread is another good reason to mention a previous post from another thread concerning spytech.

    I mentioned the race in developing quantum technologies and some of the code used also being used in spy equipment.

    a few months ago, a reporter was invited to visit China and see first hand their capabilities at locating someone. the deal was simple. for 30 minutes, the grid would be turned off while the reporter was able to merge into a major metropolis and hide their whereabouts. when 30 minutes elapsed and the grid returned back on power, within SEVEN MINUTES the reporter was located, and within TWO MINUTES the reporter was physically found.

    NINE MINUTES TOTAL to locate and have someone in custody in a major metropolis, where it should have been easy to disappear!!

    and the United States capabilities put China's to shame!!

    they know where you are at ALL TIMES if you need to be located!!
  14. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by -SpectraL But you do collect e-mail addresses…

    to her credit, she was kind enough to accept fake and non-existent email addresses as well.

    your retarded for using a real email addy.
  15. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by benny vader to her credit, she was kind enough to accept fake and non-existent email addresses as well.

    your retarded for using a real email addy.

    But if you ever need a password reset, the password reset tool sends the password reset process to the e-mail you used, so if the e-mail you used is bogus, you won't get the password reset e-mail the server sends.
  16. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by -SpectraL But if you ever need a password reset, the password reset tool sends the password reset process to the e-mail you used, so if the e-mail you used is bogus, you won't get the password reset e-mail the server sends.

    password reset is a feature designed for amateurs.

    were totse special forces.
  17. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by benny vader password reset is a feature designed for amateurs.

    were totse special forces.

    you weren't even a smile with your fathers DNA running down your momma's leg when I first joined. you're a Zoklet stooge.
  18. cupocheer Space Nigga [unwillingly condescend the dp]
    Does size matter?
  19. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by S6x you weren't even a smile with your fathers DNA running down your momma's leg when I first joined. you're a Zoklet stooge.

    theres no such thing as senior garbage man.
  20. cupocheer Space Nigga [unwillingly condescend the dp]
    ... juxtaposition. ..

    The smile came after the twinkle. N'cest pas?
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