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  1. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Cootehill Oh Lanny, just because the system treats you well right now you are content to act like it's bitch.

    You will try to pass off your obsequious behaviour as being merely playing devils advocate, but I know the truth.

    The system doesn't treat me well right now. It gives me easy money and a degree of social status but provides nothing to satisfy deeper human needs like those for purpose, community, or a refuge from the absurdity of the human condition. But it's a simple calculus to realize you have some choices and if you're self interested dropping out and living in the woods probably isn't the best of them. You're posing from a computer right now, presumably you're employed. Maybe the difference between you and me is that I don't think bitching on the internet constitutes protest.

    In 40 years time, when you try to retire, will the system still be there to honour its obligations to you?

    What are its obligations to me? I expect to still be able to spend USD and have buying power more or less in line with 3-5% inflation and general but slow erosion of US economic power, so if that's what you mean by obligation then the answer is "yeah, it's pretty reasonable to expect the system will honor its obligation to me". Also it's not gonna take me 40 years to retire. Another benefit of not living in the woods.

    Originally posted by -SpectraL There's a big difference between bitching and calling you out on your patented bullshit, kid.

    If there is a difference you sure don't know what it is.
  2. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine I live in my own world and by my own terms
    Sure I work for a corporation from the fleshnet

    That's a really interesting way of spelling "alone and submitting to a system you think is wrong"
  3. S6x African Astronaut
    it was obvious from at least the 1990s. cable boxes had cameras and microphones for a "Future of channel choices of household individuals" which became (for Comcast-Xfininity) voice programming shit. it's been listening to people for 20 fucking years. before it became comcast.

    this is how the NSA was listening in. including how people were questioning the new google search.. if it would be an invasion of privacy for use by corrupted government spying or even selling our data to corporations for their own research use or to resale privacy
  4. S6x African Astronaut
    also its 20 years later.. the new generation entering the work force has never known a planet without computers and gps locating you everywhere has become acceptable it seems.
  5. PrettyHateMachine African Astronaut
    Originally posted by S6x it was obvious from at least the 1990s. cable boxes had cameras and microphones for a "Future of channel choices of household individuals" which became (for Comcast-Xfininity) voice programming shit. it's been listening to people for 20 fucking years. before it became comcast.

    this is how the NSA was listening in. including how people were questioning the new google search.. if it would be an invasion of privacy for use by corrupted government spying or even selling our data to corporations for their own research use or to resale privacy

    which cable boxes had cameras and microphones?
  6. PrettyHateMachine African Astronaut
    Originally posted by S6x also its 20 years later.. the new generation entering the work force has never known a planet without computers and gps locating you everywhere has become acceptable it seems.

    No I remember a better world where phones were just for calling people and most people didn't even own a webcam.
    The 90s and 00s were SUCH better decades by leaps and bounds, the current era is complete garbage compared to how things were.
    Back then the only privacy concern was that when you turned in a disposable camera and had your pictures developed they would keep copies of everything.
  7. PrettyHateMachine African Astronaut
    lanny thinks coding for apple is going to secure his future little doe she know they'll drop him on his ass within 7 years once everything he does is automated

    you'll be living off basic income and still an abject failure but you'll come up with "reasons" for why you're 'better' than us
  8. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine lanny thinks coding for apple is going to secure his future little doe she know they'll drop him on his ass within 7 years once everything he does is automated

    who do you think writes the software to enable automation?
  9. PrettyHateMachine African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra who do you think writes the software to enable automation?

    not lanny
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  10. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    lol
  11. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine which cable boxes had cameras and microphones?

    I didn't take down the model number but it was the larger wider box, silver front plate and black box. I opened it up, the mic-sock was right there. found the extra black LED for infrared which was not for the remote. then I found the little button lens.

    they admitted later that they existed but not for watching people remotely but rather for the new firmware to identify indivisuals in the house by voice and site to chose programming for them. I'll try and find the source for it.

    also after I spoke about it at the cable store.. she gave me a new box that had pressure screws. imposible to open without the proper tool
  12. PrettyHateMachine African Astronaut
    Originally posted by S6x I didn't take down the model number but it was the larger wider box, silver front plate and black box. I opened it up, the mic-sock was right there. found the extra black LED for infrared which was not for the remote. then I found the little button lens.

    they admitted later that they existed but not for watching people remotely but rather for the new firmware to identify indivisuals in the house by voice and site to chose programming for them. I'll try and find the source for it.

    also after I spoke about it at the cable store.. she gave me a new box that had pressure screws. imposible to open without the proper tool

    greasy fucking kikes
  13. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by S6x they admitted later that they existed but not for watching people remotely but rather for the new firmware to identify indivisuals in the house by voice and site to chose programming for them. I'll try and find the source for it.

    if that were true it'd be much simpler to do voiceprinting; less cpu overhead and no need to pay for the camera module

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/17/big-brother-alert-cameras-cable-box-monitor-tv-vie/

    interesting, first time I've heard about this.
  14. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra if that were true it'd be much simpler to do voiceprinting; less cpu overhead and no need to pay for the camera module

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/17/big-brother-alert-cameras-cable-box-monitor-tv-vie/

    interesting, first time I've heard about this.

    It's true. but this was a long fucking time ago I cracked it open. like 2003 maybe? not the 1990s. I read an article that was written in the late 1990s saying this and I checked mine and saw the camera. the technology today might be more like you stated.. but this was more analog equipment.. probably bought cheep in bulk.

    I can't read that source page.. it's forcing me to join and pay? the popup wont close and my popup is fairly good.. I was surprized it popped up at me.
  15. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    I didn't have an issue with the site, just picked the first news article from the search


    basically it just says that cable companies were proposing this in 2013 and that there was some opposition, no indication that it was already in place but I do not doubt that it was
  16. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra I didn't have an issue with the site, just picked the first news article from the search


    basically it just says that cable companies were proposing this in 2013 and that there was some opposition, no indication that it was already in place but I do not doubt that it was

    I kept hitting "maybe later" and then I logged onto it with another browser and I read the thing.

    Anyways, how many times have you heard about something in the news and then they do a followup story that "such and such may have been doing x for much longer than reported" regarding some corporation or special interest group or someone famous.
  17. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine lanny thinks coding for apple is going to secure his future little doe she know they'll drop him on his ass within 7 years once everything he does is automated

    you'll be living off basic income and still an abject failure but you'll come up with "reasons" for why you're 'better' than us

    Lol, my people automated away your job in the 60s loser: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
  18. S6x African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Lanny Lol, my people automated away your job in the 60s loser: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

    are bots in the earlier social media days like Yahoo chat , were they written in this language or it's stylistic methods?
  19. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by S6x are bots in the earlier social media days like Yahoo chat , were they written in this language or it's stylistic methods?

    ELIZA existed way before yahoo chat. It was just a syntactic pattern matching program, not really a language. It could be implemented in anything, the big AI/string processing languages of that era were early lisps and SNOBOL so there's a good chance it was one of those two. Yahoo chatbots would largely have been written in something newer, probably a bunch of perl scripts or something.
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  20. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Lanny
    If there is a difference you sure don't know what it is.

    Well, apparently I'm not alone, because you don't know the difference either.
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