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  1. #41
    Originally posted by aldra They no longer had any real capacity to fight. They had no allies left and even the Kwantung had been crushed - it's unlikely they could've even secured their own borders at that point.


    Again, you probably want to review the Japanese culture back then, fight to the death. An invasion of Japan by the US would have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths...maybe even million. Dropping 2 bombs stopped all that and gave the japs a way to surrender without losing honor.
  2. #42
    Scrawny The 👻 Houston (banned) [tame my contributory fire-wheel]
    Originally posted by aldra You do know ISIS's rise was a result of US intervention in Iraq and Libya right? They've been used as a US and Saudi foreign policy tool ever since.

    The easy way to stop refugees (and migrants) flooding into the west is to stop ruining their countries.

    But then who will buy our drones and missiles?
  3. #43
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra even at a time when the legitimate government has largely destroyed ISIS and reduced the rebels to a single major stronghold, US involvement is deepening, not subsiding. last I checked they had built 8 permanent bases on Syrian land with three more under construction.

    for all his rhetoric on ending foreign wars and stifling foreign interference in the US (specifically the Gulf states), they've only been increasing… at worst he's complicit, at best he's powerless to change foreign policy in any significant way

    Would you prefer to go back to Obama? Or perhaps you want to give the world to the bank and supported Hillary. But please don't tell me you're stupid enough to believe that Sanders was the answer.
  4. #44
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Would you prefer to go back to Obama? Or perhaps you want to give the world to the bank and supported Hillary. But please don't tell me you're stupid enough to believe that Sanders was the answer.

    lol, no

    like I said before, I don't consider Trump to be a good option, but he was far better than the other choices. Hillary would've meant real kinetic war inside of six weeks as opposed to the 'hybrid' mess we have now. Even if I agreed with most of Sanders' talking points his ideas were too far removed from US policy for them ever to be realised, especially with conservatives dominating both houses. Stein was divorced from reality. Johnson made a mockery of the word 'libertarian'.

    Trump would've been great if he was able to actually do what he originally intended, but I know how difficult and dangerous changing the status quo can be - Putin did it after the fall of the Soviet Union and he still has to sleep with one eye open.


    My point is that even though he came in promising real change, and in many cases he honestly tried, the status quo remains.
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  5. #45
    Originally posted by aldra lol, no

    like I said before, I don't consider Trump to be a good option, but he was far better than the other choices.

    That I can agree with, it's pretty sad when the worlds leading superpower can only come up withe Trump or Hilary as legit contenders (the others didn't stand a chance)...laughable and embarrassing to the United States if that's the best they have.
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  6. #46
    joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]
    @Aldra?

    "This is just ideological nonsense that doesn't explain or refute anything. It's literally just an unfocused shotgun blast of 'the left is bad'. You really need to read wider news sources than popular US conservative ones."

    Dude, I never watch ANY US networks...it's all garbage and bias although the left is much worse. Still thank God there are a few good conservative ones which are credible and kept Clinton out of the White House. The established swamp in Washington contains members from both parties and Trump is not part of it. He just knows how to deal with the corruption and so far they have absolutely nothing on him. Everyone connected to the Dems should be in jail and the list is long. Indepedent media sources are more accurate and Drudge is definitely the best posting all sides.




    "How do you think Iran is 'destroying Europe'?
    Why do you think Syria and Iran 'have to be eliminated'?"

    Have you ever been to the ME...if you were you wouldn't ask this. Iran basically controls the whole region in one way or another and is the main terrorist state. If they force moderates to leave a large percentage will also be operatives and with open borders in Europe including idiots like Merkle running the EU it's 100% certain Europe will be destroyed further. Globalists control the EU and even manipulate currencies.




    "Do you understand the difference, and the conflict between Sunni and Shia Islam? That Iran has been the primary recipient of Sunni Islamic terrorism, to a far greater degree than anywhere in the west?"

    Of course they fight with each other and for many decades. But, their main target is Isreal...Iran is an established military force and others simply are hit and run terrorists. Yet if the US was not attached to Isreal and SA the whole region would eventually fall in the hands of the Russians and oil distribution would sky rocket if demands weren't met. Similar to the hostage incident decades ago...corrupt officials get millions and in cash.




    "'This all started with past presidents giving in to radicals and pampering them' - do you understand that at least as far back as the Soviets in Afghanistan, the US has been supporting Sunni terrorists and using them as a foreign policy tool? They use Saudi Arabia to set up Wahabbi-Salafi mosques explicitly to radicalise local muslims. The majority of the Syrian conflict has been a result of the US and KSA importing Islamic extremists into the country. Less than 20% of the anti-government rebels in the country are even Syrian nationals."

    These were past presidents...not Trump. With Iran being the biggest enemy against NATO and the US any fringe group was accepted and why so many sanctions were involved. Grant you a huge mistake and one that never should have happened. Yet, the EU situation is totally different...with no open borders and no globalists running the show Europe would never have been destroyed. Again why Hungry, Italy, Austria and many other nations are fighting back and electing individuals from the right. Globalists are opportunists just like the ones during WW2 supporting Hitler...more to do do with profits and dominance. Don't worry about the US...fix your country first and the mess there.




    'In all fairness instead of giving Americans advice you should worry more about your own nation instead to clean up the bigger mess there.'

    "My country is a US vassal state, and the US' aggressive and reckless foreign policy is currently the world's primary geopolitical problem."

    Sorry pal you can't blame the US and our people for your mess and misery. The US saved Europe in WW2 from extreme socialism and you idiots still haven't learned your lesson. Blame your own people and the ignorance within your own nations. In reality many EU nations are now supporting Trump's policies and understanding why borders must be closed with strong laws. The world's primary geopolitical problem is terrorism and criminals and radicals who want to destroy it. Trump left the UN...I hope he also leaves NATO and lets you fuckers defend yourselves so we can fight harder against non American globalists trying to destroy our country.
  7. #47
    Applebottm Houston [our biased demode moss-trooper]
    Originally posted by aldra lol, no

    like I said before, I don't consider Trump to be a good option, but he was far better than the other choices. Hillary would've meant real kinetic war inside of six weeks as opposed to the 'hybrid' mess we have now. Even if I agreed with most of Sanders' talking points his ideas were too far removed from US policy for them ever to be realised, especially with conservatives dominating both houses. Stein was divorced from reality. Johnson made a mockery of the word 'libertarian'.

    Trump would've been great if he was able to actually do what he originally intended, but I know how difficult and dangerous changing the status quo can be - Putin did it after the fall of the Soviet Union and he still has to sleep with one eye open.


    My point is that even though he came in promising real change, and in many cases he honestly tried, the status quo remains.

    I think some big changes issa coming... that's for sure.
  8. #48
    joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]
    In reality Trump was the best choice ever...no one else would have done what he did. Tough and firm. Leaders of the world no longer wanted to deal with Obama and Clinton...they realized they're both scum. And look what Merkle the socialist did to Germany and the rest of Europe. Including the new London Muslim mayor...what a joke. Lol.
  9. #49
    Originally posted by joerell In reality Trump was the best choice ever…no one else would have done what he did. Tough and firm. Leaders of the world no longer wanted to deal with Obama and Clinton…they realized they're both scum. And look what Merkle the socialist did to Germany and the rest of Europe. Including the new London Muslim mayor…what a joke. Lol.

    American needs to realize a dictatorship is really the only way to go...this democracy crap is for the birds...what's it given us...trannies, rainbow crosswalks and "safe spaces"...Get a good strong dictator in place and all that shit will stop.
  10. #50
    tee hee hee Naturally Camouflaged [slangily complete this slumberer]
    ^Meanie!
  11. #51
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by joerell Have you ever been to the ME…if you were you wouldn't ask this. Iran basically controls the whole region in one way or another and is the main terrorist state. If they force moderates to leave a large percentage will also be operatives and with open borders in Europe including idiots like Merkle running the EU it's 100% certain Europe will be destroyed further. Globalists control the EU and even manipulate currencies.

    Have you?

    Can you name a single terrorist attack Iran was responsible for in the last 20 years? You're just repeating stupid slogans like 'Iran wants to destroy America!!' without understanding anything about the matter.

    The truth is, virtually all terrorism today is committed by Sunni groups (spefically the extreme Wahabbi-Salafist sects), directly armed by the Gulf states (mostly Saudi Arabia) and financed by the US and Israel. Sunnis and Shiites are opposing Islamic ideologies. Israel and the US fund these terrorists in order to cause infighting among Muslims in an attempt to break the united front against Israel's dreams of owning the region.

    Israel has no legitimacy, siphons billions (likely trillions) of US public funds that could otherwise be used to repair your decaying infrastructure and supports the 'terrorists' you're so afraid of. The reason it enjoys such deep US support is because people in powerful places are ideologically bound to support it, and everyday peons like yourself buy into the all-pervasive 'greatest ally' propaganda.

    These were past presidents…not Trump.

    lol. This is exactly why I brought up Syria in the first place. He's continuing to support terrorist groups, even if the policy wasn't initially his choice.

    True, he's shut down many of the DoD programs delivering support to rebel groups, but this was likely just to reduce the conflicts between DoD and CIA supported terrorists - nothing has been done to reign in the CIA's operations.


    The US saved Europe in WW2 from extreme socialism and you idiots still haven't learned your lesson.


    The US only entered the war after the outcome had been decided - it didn't save anyone from anything. The war was decided at Kursk and Stalingrad, and the US only entered when it was safe to claim victory without taking significant losses.
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  12. #52
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Applebottm I think some big changes issa coming… that's for sure.

    yup, keep an eye on BRI developments

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson American needs to realize a dictatorship is really the only way to go…this democracy crap is for the birds…what's it given us…trannies, rainbow crosswalks and "safe spaces"…Get a good strong dictator in place and all that shit will stop.

  13. #53
    Manonfire African Astronaut
    All u trump kiss assess will eventually be with the devil
    It'll come
  14. #54
    joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]
    @Aldra.


    "Have you?

    Can you name a single terrorist attack Iran was responsible for in the last 20 years? You're just repeating stupid slogans like 'Iran wants to destroy America!!' without understanding anything about the matter."

    Yes I have...I'm sure you haven't. I understand the problem...you don't. Obviously you're a leftist and one that can't reason. Stay misinformed...follow the BS socialist ideal and lose your country completely.




    "The truth is, virtually all terrorism today is committed by Sunni groups (spefically the extreme Wahabbi-Salafist sects), directly armed by the Gulf states (mostly Saudi Arabia) and financed by the US and Israel. Sunnis and Shiites are opposing Islamic ideologies. Israel and the US fund these terrorists in order to cause infighting among Muslims in an attempt to break the united front against Israel's dreams of owning the region."

    LMAO.




    "Israel has no legitimacy, siphons billions (likely trillions) of US public funds that could otherwise be used to repair your decaying infrastructure and supports the 'terrorists' you're so afraid of. The reason it enjoys such deep US support is because people in powerful places are ideologically bound to support it, and everyday peons like yourself buy into the all-pervasive 'greatest ally' propaganda."

    LMAO




    "lol. This is exactly why I brought up Syria in the first place. He's continuing to support terrorist groups, even if the policy wasn't initially his choice.

    True, he's shut down many of the DoD programs delivering support to rebel groups, but this was likely just to reduce the conflicts between DoD and CIA supported terrorists - nothing has been done to reign in the CIA's operations."

    LMAO.

    Sorry dude...I'm not going to waste my time arguing with an idiot who is fixated in blaming the US and Iseal for everything with total crap not taking responsibility for what socialists and globalists did to the world. 100% corruption and not related to Trump in any way. Smoke up, keep rambling on and make a fool out of yourself.





    The US only entered the war after the outcome had been decided - it didn't save anyone from anything. The war was decided at Kursk and Stalingrad, and the US only entered when it was safe to claim victory without taking significant losses.
  15. #55
    RisiR † 29 Autism
    ^victimized.
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  16. #56
    Technologist victim of incest
    Donald trump is the scourge of America. Alienating our allies, and having meetings with communists.
    I hope our next prez can repair the damage he has done. I hope our allies realize he’s a nut job, and when he’s out, some civility should come back to our country.
  17. #57
    joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]
    While Aldra blames the US and Isreal for his own misery and weaknesses radical Muslims will take over his whole country, traditions and entire lifestyle. Fine with me if he wants to become a slave...doesn't even realize the basic principles of why the US and Isreal are in the ME and ignores what socialists, globalists, Russians and terrorists have done to the region. It's not a cut and dry situation since he's never been there and only believes what he reads. Nothing to do with Trump and just a waste of time arguing with him.
  18. #58
    joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]
    Originally posted by Technologist Donald trump is the scourge of America. Alienating our allies, and having meetings with communists.
    I hope our next prez can repair the damage he has done. I hope our allies realize he’s a nut job, and when he’s out, some civility should come back to our country.

    You're a total idiot like most leftists and socialists spreading rumors and hate with no facts. Every leader on this earth meets with the Russians. Russians are a world power and one of the strongest forces if not the strongest thanks to 8 corrupt years of Obama destroying the military. Don't imply anything against Trump with no proof...that's what CNN and Hollywood does with fake propaganda. Trump has actually damaged nothing...everything from the economy to the supreme court has been improved and there would be more success if the Dems would stop trying to hold on to their criminal swamp in Washington. NATO and Europe along with the UN alienated themselves siding with globalists...opening borders to allow illgals in and now losing all freedom and democracy. Thank God Hungry, Italy, Spain, Eastern block countries, etc., are fighting back and patriots support Trump rather than Merkle and Germany. In the last years of Obama most nations ignored him knowing he's a clown and this is exactly what he was. Just like Clinton, Pelosi, Waters and other traitors...the only ignorance stems from the left and their mindless BS whining for having lost power in an elction they tried to rig.
  19. #59
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by RisiR † ^victimized.

    facts hurt when you live in a fantasy
  20. #60
    The best thing about Trump is, his presidency has helped to identify follower-mentality betas easily, for example those who literally think "they won" because Trump is president.

    Specially the poor people that he is about to screw in the ass, like millions on the ACA who are willing to lose health coverage because republicans managed to attach Obama's name to it.
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