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is there any OG NIS here who is not an unemployed druggie loser??
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2018-06-08 at 3:12 AM UTCEssentially what §m£ÂgØL said.
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2018-06-08 at 5:50 AM UTCso tell me, what is the working week set at in your countries? like here(uk) its 40 hours. that's what the govt sets the full time working week to. most people do 8 hours 5 days a week, but it can be split up, and some do regular overtime.
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2018-06-08 at 5:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist so tell me, what is the working week set at in your countries? like here(uk) its 40 hours. that's what the govt sets the full time working week to. most people do 8 hours 5 days a week, but it can be split up, and some do regular overtime.
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2018-06-08 at 5:54 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 5:59 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 6:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by Madman I love digging and the shovel is one of my favorite tools to use, everybody shits on ditch digging but I would do it for a living if there was such a position anymore. I while ago I shoveled gravel all day in the sun and made 20 bucks an hour and it was a damn good day. A shovel is just severely underrated because its a great tool.
There are plenty of smaller trenches still dug by hand. When excavating a trench with machinery, the equipment operator often has a spotter -seemingly leaned on a shovel half the time- to watch the backside of the bucket and go inspect anything that starts to turn up or is exposed. Dirt work is cool, I think it would be neat to be the guy that owns a fleet of backhoes and bulldozers and loaders.
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2018-06-08 at 6:16 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 6:22 AM UTC
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2018-06-08 at 6:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Pablo's Law
lol, never heard of it.
there are so many man hours of work needed to be done each week to keep a country going. by setting the working week at 40 hours, that leaves X amount of millions out of work. why do you think it is that they don't change the working week to say 35 hours, making all the work shared out more equally and leaving nobody without work?
why is that you think?
that question is open to anybody.
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2018-06-08 at 6:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist lol, never heard of it.
there are so many man hours of work needed to be done each week to keep a country going. by setting the working week at 40 hours, that leaves X amount of millions out of work. why do you think it is that they don't change the working week to say 35 hours, making all the work shared out more equally and leaving nobody without work?
why is that you think?
that question is open to anybody.
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becuase some people rather work more hours to earn even more, and some rather work no hours and sit in their welfare flat.
also, if USA or brittain said the standard work-week is now 30 or 35 hours - the skeptic in me figures many employers will just try to extract more labor out of the person for the hours they are present. But if not, and they pick up the slack with makign new positions, aren't they now drawing from the bottom of the heap? the people that didn't cut the mustard when most people worked 40+ hrs.
also when everyone at your company now works less hours and you are hiring many new workers to pickup the extra hours - how can a company offer the same benefits? they are still getting the same amount of work done presumably, but now there are a bunch of extra heads that might have ordinarily gotten health insurance, retirement, etc. -
2018-06-08 at 6:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor becuase some people rather work more hours to earn even more, and some rather work no hours and sit in their welfare flat.
also, if USA or brittain said the standard work-week is now 30 or 35 hours - the skeptic in me figures many employers will just try to extract more labor out of the person for the hours they are present. But if not, and they pick up the slack with makign new positions, aren't they now drawing from the bottom of the heap? the people that didn't cut the mustard when most people worked 40+ hrs.
also when everyone at your company now works less hours and you are hiring many new workers to pickup the extra hours - how can a company offer the same benefits? they are still getting the same amount of work done presumably, but now there are a bunch of extra heads that might have ordinarily gotten health insurance, retirement, etc.
no, the current status quo creates competition amongst the workforce. workers fear ending up on that unemployment line so they shut up and accept less. the bosses know they can replace you from that queue of millions very easily.
when that queue is gone and you know you could walk out today, knowing there will always be companies desperate for labor and could get hired tomorrow, the boss loses his leverage. he then has to pay a more fair wage and benefits to keep his skilled staff. the competition shifts to the bosses to keep the most skilled workers.
the countries means of production then works for the people not just the industrial elite.
but the rich don't want that, they'd lose all their power, so they make sure the govt puppets keep it in their favor.
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2018-06-08 at 6:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist no, the current status quo creates competition amongst the workforce. workers fear ending up on that unemployment line so they shut up and accept less. the bosses know they can replace you from that queue of millions very easily.
when that queue is gone and you know you could walk out today, knowing there will always be companies desperate for labor and could get hired tomorrow, the boss loses his leverage. he then has to pay a more fair wage and benefits to keep his skilled staff. the competition shifts to the bosses to keep the most skilled workers.
the countries means of production then works for the people not just the industrial elite.
but the rich don't want that, they'd lose all their power, so they make sure the govt puppets keep it in their favor.
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I'm sorry, did you want communism? -
2018-06-08 at 6:55 AM UTCAHA you have fallen into my logic trap, now I will pick you apart and try to make u think ur wrong!
you said exactly what i baited you into saying, exactly as i planned it.
very well.
now no one else say some shit that i dont like because im on a powertrip right now -
2018-06-08 at 6:56 AM UTCNarc, all your arguments are always so juvenile. It's like you never graduated past the 8th grade.
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2018-06-08 at 6:59 AM UTCnigger
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2018-06-08 at 7:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL I'm sorry, did you want communism?
no not at all, just a fairer system. there are other ways of setting a system other than the current defined ism's you know.
you know like, not exploiting the workforce to the benefit of the few and not to the detriment of another few who are more few than the other few.
not having the few squander all the resources away where its of no use to anybody, just so they can use that to garner power over the masses.
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2018-06-08 at 7:18 AM UTCbesides, you call me unemployed but i'm not unemployed, nobody is truly unemployed, that's just a word, an ideology that they use to keep you all in line. i trade, just like your boss does, that's working. i just work for myself is all. so unlike y'all i answer to nobody. i'm free to make my own decisions. you mentioned earlier §m£ÂgØL that you'd never had a day off. i can have any day off i like, at the drop of a hat if i like. i could pack a bag right this minute and go to the other side of the country for a month, six months, a year or more even. and i don't have to ask permission to do so from anybody. i could make the decision to get steaming drunk any night of theweek knowing i'd be totally unfit to work tomorrow, but it don't matter, ain't nobody gonna be screaming at me for doing so.
and you think you're free? that you are not just a glorified slave? enjoy your slavery pal.
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2018-06-08 at 7:19 AM UTCernt!! if theyres one thing i did come to know its that EVERONE answers to SOMEONE and you might believe it but you might not believe it too but at the end of the day thats the culled hard truth
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2018-06-08 at 7:23 AM UTCi can choose to ignore anybody i like
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2018-06-08 at 7:23 AM UTC