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2015-08-16 at 8:44 PM UTCyou know I love you, lanny, right? but leftism is sickening, and it is unfortunate that you fall for this garbage.
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2015-08-16 at 8:54 PM UTCI honestly can't tell if this is bait or not. Good job I guess
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2015-08-16 at 8:58 PM UTC
I honestly can't tell if this is bait or not. Good job I guess
every thing I post is bait, I just like to argue. But this? this is bullshit:there's no point supporting it with arguments or thinking about opposing positions?
there is quite a difference between thoughtfully considering an opponents arguments, and using other people's thoughts and ideas as an ideological bludgeon against your opponent.
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2015-08-16 at 9:04 PM UTCamiright?
yeah, of course I'm right.
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2015-08-16 at 9:07 PM UTC
every thing I post is bait, I just like to argue.
You've just single-handedly discredited every argument you made in this thread with this sentence. Also, while i am right leaning myself, in all fairness lanny did, as always a good job of defending his position. -
2015-08-16 at 9:27 PM UTC
You've just single-handedly discredited every argument you made in this thread with this sentence..
So?
it's not like I am going to get through to any leftists anyway. they are literally brainwashed. -
2015-08-16 at 9:33 PM UTCI do agree that lanny is one of the most formidable arguing opponents in this community.
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2015-08-16 at 9:44 PM UTChey guys whats going on in this thread
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2015-08-16 at 9:48 PM UTC
So?
Means you lose by default.it's not like I am going to get through to any leftists anyway. they are literally brainwashed.
Yee arguing with lanny about politics is an excersise in futility. I remember back on the fern i made an awesome argument about how in a anarcho-capitalist system monopolies can't exist which still turned into a two page discussion lol. In conclusion i'll leave this thread with this.
If I had to boil it down to a handful of key points, they would be these: One, each human being, to use John Locke’s formulation, has a property in his own person; Two, there ought to be a single moral code binding all people, whether they are employed by the State or not; and three, society can run itself without central direction. From the original property one enjoys in his own person we can derive individual rights, including property rights. When taken to its proper Rothbardian conclusion, this insight actually invalidates the State, since the State functions and survives on the basis of systematic violation of individual rights. Were it not to do so, it would cease to be the State.
In violating individual rights, the State tries to claim exemption from the moral laws we take for granted in all other areas of life. What would be called theft if carried out by a private individual is taxation for the State. What would be called kidnapping is the military draft for the State. What would be called mass murder for anyone else is war for the State. In each case, the State gets away with moral enormities because the public has been conditioned to believe that the State is a law unto itself, and can’t be held to the same moral standards we apply to ourselves.
Thus the state and all it's programs/policies are fundamentally invalid, especially policies/programs that require big government, like welfare(i.e socialist policies). -
2015-08-16 at 9:52 PM UTC
Means you lose by default.
yet, I was thoroughly entertained.
I don't argue to impress anyone, or change anyone's mind
I do it because I enjoy it, it's a hobby, and I do it pretty well.
I don't have the large blocks of time to play computer games or read conspiracy garbage like I used to, I am always working here,. and running back and forth, but I can check in here a dozen times a day, spend five minutes reading posts, and ridicule and argue with people, and it is satisfying to me..
So, who really loses here?
It sure doesn't feel like I lost anything. -
2015-08-16 at 9:57 PM UTCI can't get anyone to argue with me in real life anymore, everyone is fed up with my shit, so I take it out on you fucks. That's pretty much it.
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2015-08-16 at 10:04 PM UTC
I can't get anyone to argue with me in real life anymore, everyone is fed up with my shit, so I take it out on you fucks. That's pretty much it.
I'd argue with you all day IRL, Sophie doesn't afraid of anything. -
2015-08-16 at 10:09 PM UTC
I'd argue with you all day IRL, Sophie doesn't afraid of anything.
you would get sick of it after years and years, like everyone else
my ex old lady started just blankly staring at me, either because she was sick of my belligerent ass, or because she just couldn't hang in an argument, I can't figure out which....
that always got to me, that blank stare....
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2015-08-17 at 3:58 AM UTCI directed this toward lanny in the retarded thread, but he didn't respond. I've noticed that avoidance is a very common behavior among leftists, Tacho used to do it all the time when he couldn't counter my arguments.
Haha, saw this linked from r/Anarcho_Capitalism: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Cap...mali_majority/
https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.c...crime-numbers/
Somali immigrants are 10 times as likely to be sentenced for criminal violations as Danish citizens. Bring this up whenever leftists complain about the racism of the US and "capitalism", point out that Denmark is in the Nordic region and even more egalitarian than Sweden in terms of the Gini coefficient and government taxation and spending.
How do you respond to this, Lan Lan? Don't you realize how problematic trying to force equalist utilitarian principles onto the messy reality of unequal human beings is? And why should valuing human utility equally be accepted as the standard position over valuing it unequally? People like you commonly fail to realize that your core positions are just as deontological as those you criticize.
One day I want to knock you off the intellectual throne you've built for yourself and step on your back, drive you to the ground until you learn the joy of submission.
Rape them, then rape them again, then rape them one more time. Rape them until their nothing but a pile of meat. Rape them to death. Rape every human on Earth, Rape every man, woman, and child. Rape them until there's nothing left. -
2015-08-17 at 4:08 AM UTC
One day I want to knock you off the intellectual throne you've built for yourself and step on your back, drive you to the ground until you learn the joy of submission.
Rape them, then rape them again, then rape them one more time. Rape them until their nothing but a pile of meat. Rape them to death. Rape every human on Earth, Rape every man, woman, and child. Rape them until there's nothing left.
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahah -
2015-08-17 at 5:54 AM UTC
How do you respond to this, Lan Lan? Don't you realize how problematic trying to force equalist utilitarian principles onto the messy reality of unequal human beings is?
I don't know what you think "equalist utilitarian" means but if you're suggesting I think everyone needs to be equally happy, you're wrong. Maximization is the goal, distribution is irrelevant, it just happens that in general wealth results in diminishing returns on well being thus wealth redistribution is in our collective best interest.And why should valuing human utility equally be accepted as the standard position over valuing it unequally?
The idea of human utility being unequal conflicts with the very meaning of the term. Utility is the measure of final good in a utilitarian system, an action can produce more or less of it's incoherent to talk about better and worse utility of the same quantity. Some people may get more utility out of some resources than others (medicine that's life saving for one person might do nothing for a healthy person) and thus people may have unequal claims on resources but if you want to argue that any group of people (like those who have capital) have a special claim to something then you'd have to demonstrate how they receive more utility from it than others. -
2015-08-17 at 6:07 AM UTCFuck the rich.
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2015-08-17 at 7:15 AM UTCOh no, I meant that your system seems to value everyone's happiness equally, ideally. So, for example, an action that gave Hitler more utility compared to a monk that had devoted their life to charity should be favored.
By the way, Lanny, do you believe that people should be legally compelled, through force, to care for their parents, who likely cared for them for decades among your peers, and invested enormous time, effort, and resources into them? Then why should they be legally obligated to care for perfect strangers?
Case 1: You force them to labor directly for their benefit.
Case 2: You force them to transfer wealth to you, which was produced through labor, to care for perfect strangers.Fuck the rich.
Why can't you just be happy for them? Why do you have to be so envious and spiteful? Maybe this mentality is the reason why poor people like you stay poor, dish monkey. The rich should fuck you. You people should be on your knees, ass in the air, offering yourselves to them, ready to be taken at whatever moment they desire. -
2015-08-17 at 9:52 AM UTC
Why can't you just be happy for them? Why do you have to be so envious and spiteful? Maybe this mentality is the reason why poor people like you stay poor, dish monkey. The rich should fuck you. You people should be on your knees, ass in the air, offering yourselves to them, ready to be taken at whatever moment they desire.
I say that out of jealousy, mal mal. That's all it was. You are right. -
2015-08-17 at 9:56 AM UTCMr. Orange offered me employment opportunity of which I couldn't even begin to ascribe myself to. Stop offering me advice and tell me how to effectively kill myself. Or just sit and wait until I see a psychiatrist at the end of this month who puts me on the medication that I need to become the mmmmmmmQuestions that I once was. HUE *cuts self*
