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2018-03-18 at 8:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist because people who know wtf they're doing cut with caffeine, amateurs cut with all sorts of other fucked up shit, like tums, lol.
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Totally agreed depending for what drug and amount adding to product, but sadly i wish the statement you made was TRUE because people who know what the fuck there doing out there still put all types of crazy shit for cuts and don't think about the consequences of what there adding has a effect of on human consumers and this happening at the level of manufacturing right down to the street level seller. Also anyone who knows why I prefer quinine as a cutting agent knows what drug I'm manly informing too and is in the number Top 1-3 cuts used.
Caffeine is actually not as of great cutting agent or common to most cuts found in all street drugs lab tested. To what a person may think? Because of it's Active and Sensitivity base starting range on the average base level content needed consumed to feel it's adverse effects it can have on someone.
The amounts typically needed as a use of standard cutting agent in most street drugs needs to be at a almost an non active amount so people don't suffer any side effects that the active dosage levels may bring on, but as said there will always be those people out there that whatever substance used in the drug can be fatal or bring on negative unwanted effects.
There's no reason anyone besides production and high level dealers or anyone having a pure form of whatever drug should be cutting the shit because it's people like you drugs like heroin and cocaine are on average about 30% pure but can vary wildly, whereas some ecstasy tablets may contain no actual MDMA. -
2018-03-18 at 8:26 PM UTCLike greenplastic said, they do it because it tricks their customers into thinking they got more potent shit. And like I said, it's the same reason why people cut heroin/fent with dph. You can't honestly be looking at the 'top tier' drug distributors and thinking they're doing something GOOD. How fucking stupid are you? These are the same people responsible for the 500% increase in opioid overdoses in the US over the last 10 years. They're looking to make a profit. That's all. Cutting with caffeine is for dealers who don't give a fuck about their customers. But as a buyer/consumer, preferably, you are getting drugs without caffeine in it.
Was trying to remember the name for benzocaine, but that's another good one to cut it with. Especially if you like the numbing effect. -
2018-03-18 at 8:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by 杀死所有的白魔鬼 Like greenplastic said, they do it because it tricks their customers into thinking they got more potent shit. And like I said, it's the same reason why people cut heroin/fent with dph. You can't honestly be looking at the 'top tier' drug distributors and thinking they're doing something GOOD. How fucking stupid are you? These are the same people responsible for the 500% increase in opioid overdoses in the US over the last 10 years. They're looking to make a profit. That's all. Cutting with caffeine is for dealers who don't give a fuck about their customers. But as a buyer/consumer, preferably, you are getting drugs without caffeine in it.
Was trying to remember the name for benzocaine, but that's another good one to cut it with. Especially if you like the numbing effect.
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2018-03-18 at 8:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic Yea fuck quinine, I took an analogue of that for a few weeks as an anti-malaria drug. I started having really weird dreams and feeling weird during the day, sort of slightly dissociated and anxious, but different than normal. I looked up side effects online and found a shitload of worrying side effects, like permanent hair loss and brain damage or some shit. Stopped taking that trash immediately. Never got malaria either.
Well yeah same here, but that's a totally fucking different amount level then needed that should be used to cut drugs with at a gram level and your using solid powdered form compared to the liquid, which I don't understand why you would be ingesting because the tablets aren't that bad as long as you don't let sit in your mouth and melt down. -
2018-03-18 at 8:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic Yea fuck quinine, I took an analogue of that for a few weeks as an anti-malaria drug. I started having really weird dreams and feeling weird during the day, sort of slightly dissociated and anxious, but different than normal. I looked up side effects online and found a shitload of worrying side effects, like permanent hair loss and brain damage or some shit. Stopped taking that trash immediately. Never got malaria either.
Also sorry to jump the gun because i just noticed you said analogue and a few weeks ago compared to when I had to go on a tablet form for almost a month, but for me it wasn't bad and fuck if I wasn't educated about pharmacology I guess reading about Quinine would probably start to trouble me to or even give me placebo effects itself if I were to be on the drug after all the negative side effects and unwanted conditions that certain forms/analogs of the drug in certain dosages caused on consumer from drug. -
2018-03-18 at 8:39 PM UTCWhen §m£ÂgØL first believed he was going to be a FATHER by HYDROMORPHONE, his whole personality CHANGED. He suddenly became this WISE ELDER, the only one to offer such wise and SAGE advice on the matter of being a parent. He wrote a book about it, created at least 5 accounts to advertise it and really push it. We tried telling him all the while that hydro was lying to him, to use him for some unforseen purpose. He wouldn't have it. He was DETERMINED that the baby Hydro carried in her womb was HIS and NO ONE could convince him otherwise. He became so wise and SAGELY. He ORDERED DOWN lessons of life to those SMALLER THAN HE. He was, the pinnacle OF MAN...
...Then he found out that it was all a lie by Hydromorphone. He was never the father at all. Suddenly, the world he created around himself began to fall. In a wild panic, he erased every evidence of his book he wrote and to this day, he rarely acknowledges it ever happend. This is a TRUE STORY. -
2018-03-18 at 8:41 PM UTC
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2018-03-18 at 8:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist yeah you'd be lucky. 30% pure heroin would have even the most seasoned addicts dropping like flies. average street gear rarely comes above 5%.
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Averages have the ability to vary by region. 5% wouldn't fly here. Too weak. They'd go elsewhere. You can buy 5% dope in "The Bluff" if you have to, but any real junkie knows you can get 10-30% from a private dealer. That's what I did. Bought privately, by the gram. Came in a solid white chunk that I had to break apart with two quarters before I shot it up. -
2018-03-18 at 8:48 PM UTCItt: uneducated british junkie
Sprite crack, anyone? -
2018-03-18 at 8:49 PM UTCPanthrax do you remember when you sold to a kid and he overdosed?
Or when you assaulted your wife with a frozen pizza?
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2018-03-18 at 8:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist yeah you'd be lucky. 30% pure heroin would have even the most seasoned addicts dropping like flies. average street gear rarely comes above 5%.
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Purity levels right now for street level sold Heroin is at a average of 20-30% as of now and many new users with some Vets are dropping like flies out there sad to say and fuck from personal experience from people using drugs. You can tell them up and down don't do more then 2 bags because you will for certainty OD or worse DIE and to please just do one to see how you feel first and dose from there because i'm serious this isn't your average Heroin which still here in my city is never found lower to be then 15%pure in street form unless somebody tampered with the bag or straight ripped you off.
As of Cocaine fuck that's at a average of 20% pure here and since it's been that shitty I haven't spent a dime on doing the shit drug. Not saying I haven't used it. Just didn't pay for it because everyone knows you never turn down free Cocaine. -
2018-03-18 at 8:53 PM UTCLol, a frozen pizza?
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2018-03-18 at 8:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by §m£ÂgØL2becausescronfuckeduptheforum Panthrax do you remember when you sold to a kid and he overdosed?
Or when you assaulted your wife with a frozen pizza?
Are you talking about when I met a former totse user from here? We hung out that entire day, he was scared shitless of the things I did. I warned him not to over-do it. His last words to me, "Dude, it's me <username>", like I was supposed to trust that it's ok. I did though. He died 2 days later. His brother called me to let me know. Fucked up.
When I assaulted my wife with a frozen pizza, I was drunk as fuck. She stormed out of the bedroom and began nagging on me about something. I don't even remember what it was now. All I remember was, I just kept listening and getting angrier and angrier and suddenly I took the pizza I was trying to make and FLUNG IT at her HEAD and shouted, "shut upppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
She luckily ducked it and it hit the wall. The one and only time I came at my wife violently like that lol.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-03-18 at 8:54 PM UTCAlso how are you guys getting these purity percentages...?
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2018-03-18 at 8:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Grimace Averages have the ability to vary by region. 5% wouldn't fly here. Too weak. They'd go elsewhere. You can buy 5% dope in "The Bluff" if you have to, but any real junkie knows you can get 10-30% from a private dealer. That's what I did. Bought privately, by the gram. Came in a solid white chunk that I had to break apart with two quarters before I shot it up.
dealers always exaggerate the purity of their shit. but guess what? none of them know the purity of their shit because the guy who sold it to them didn't happen to tell him how much he cut it, and funnily enough the guy who sold it to him didn't happen to mention that either, nor did the guy above him or the other 10 guys above them. so how the fuck would your man on the street have any fucking idea as to the purity of his shit? this why i say prohibition makes this shit dangerous when it doesn't need to be.
think of this, 30% heroin would mean a gram would contain 300mg of diamorphine. when you go into the emergency room with your guts all hanging out or your leg all mangled up and in chronic pain, do you know the dose they give you? 10 to 15ml diamorphine solution which is 1mg to 1ml. so its 10mg to 15mg to start, the max they will give you in any four hours is 30mg in a 30ml solution.
so your gram has 10 times the maximum dose they would give to anybody, and that 30ml dose would knock anyone on their ass. even doing just a .2 which is a 1/5 of a gram you would still have twice their max dose at 60mg. somebody with a high tolerance could easily do at least a .4 in one hit. so 30% pure would still put most of them over.
so don't ever take notice of your dealers when they tell you how pure their shit is, its exaggerated bullshit.
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2018-03-18 at 8:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic Also how are you guys getting these purity percentages…?
Back then, I was obsessed with drugs. I wanted to know all their was about them and how they related to me. I bought some purity tests online and tested a sample. Waste of 100mg, but whatever. I knew from dosing it everyday that it remained the same. 15-30%. -
2018-03-18 at 8:57 PM UTCHeroin % since hitting the street in my state in the year 2000 has risen and never went down in street level dosage % found in Heroin bags on a trafficking level of the drug sold for low level street dealers.
I live, deal, and see it on a daily basis because i smacked certain in the epidemic for the drug being used, sold, and trafficked into for distribution through out the north east U.S.A. . -
2018-03-18 at 8:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist dealers always exaggerate the purity of their shit. but guess what? none of them know the purity of their shit because the guy who sold it to them didn't happen to tell him how much he cut it, and funnily enough the guy who sold it to him didn't happen to mention that either, nor did the guy above him or the other 10 guys above them. so how the fuck would your man on the street have any fucking idea as to the purity of his shit? this why i say prohibition makes this shit dangerous when it doesn't need to be.
think of this, 30% heroin would mean a gram would contain 300mg of diamorphine. when you go into the emergency room with your guts all hanging out or your leg all mangled up and in chronic pain, do you know the dose they give you? 10 to 15ml diamorphine solution which is 1mg to 1ml. so its 10mg to 15mg to start, the max they will give you in any four hours is 30mg in a 30ml solution.
so your gram has 10 times the maximum dose they would give to anybody, and that 30ml dose would knock anyone on their ass. even doing just a .2 which is a 1/5 of a gram you would still have twice their max dose at 60mg. somebody with a high tolerance could easily do at least a .4 in one hit. so 30% pure would still put most of them over.
so don't ever take notice of your dealers when they tell you how pure their shit is, its exaggerated bullshit.
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Then test your product like I did and calm down. It's not a competition. -
2018-03-18 at 8:59 PM UTCthe truth with heroin is that most street gear is usually around the 2 to 3% mark.
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2018-03-18 at 9 PM UTCHow does a purity test work?
