Democracy: The God that failed

1. 2018-03-13 at 8:20 PM UTC

   #41
   

   Speedy Parker Black Hole

   Originally posted by Jeremus The will of the people is all that matters and what makes things right and wrong. If you don't like that, you are probably a homosexual.

   
   Understand the difference between a democracy and republic and then you can post in this thread
2. 2018-03-13 at 8:25 PM UTC

   #42
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Speedy Parker Understand the difference between a democracy and republic and then you can post in this thread

   
   You do not understand the difference between a democracy and a republic
3. 2018-03-13 at 11:39 PM UTC

   #43
   

   Speedy Parker Black Hole

   Originally posted by Jeremus You do not understand the difference between a democracy and a republic

   
   Enlighten me. *this should be humorous *
4. 2018-03-13 at 11:58 PM UTC

   #44
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Speedy Parker Enlighten me. *this should be humorous *

   
   No, I'm going to make it fun by telling you a clear distinction between the two and not which is which. Then you discern that... Or dodge like a faggot:
   
   One terms describes the source of executive power and the other describes the source of its legitimacy.
   
   Go.
5. 2018-03-14 at 12:12 AM UTC

   #45
   

   Speedy Parker Black Hole

   Originally posted by Jeremus No, I'm going to make it fun by telling you a clear distinction between the two and not which is which. Then you discern that… Or dodge like a faggot:
   
   One terms describes the source of executive power and the other describes the source of its legitimacy.
   
   Go.

   
   Wrong, so wrong.
   
   
   
   This video is why you should not have a vote.
   
   
   
6. 2018-03-14 at 12:13 AM UTC

   #46
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Speedy Parker Wrong, so wrong.
   
   
   
   This video is why you should not have a vote.
   
   
   

   
   "Wrong: I'm going to post two videos affirming what you said and dodge."
   
   Also, the first video is garbage.
7. 2018-03-14 at 12:18 AM UTC

   #47
   

   Speedy Parker Black Hole

   Originally posted by Jeremus "Wrong: I'm going to post two videos affirming what you said and dodge."
   
   Also, the first video is garbage.

   
   Being as you posted your response exactly 1 minute after I posted the videos. And seeing as the 1st video is over 11 minutes in length and the second over 4 minutes your assessment of their content is meaningless.
8. 2018-03-14 at 12:27 AM UTC

   #48
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Speedy Parker Being as you posted your response exactly 1 minute after I posted the videos. And seeing as the 1st video is over 11 minutes in length and the second over 4 minutes your assessment of their content is meaningless.

   
   I've already seen both videos. Which is why I instantly knew you are retarded.
9. 2018-03-14 at 12:28 AM UTC

   #49
   

   Speedy Parker Black Hole

   Originally posted by Jeremus I've already seen both videos. Which is why I instantly knew you are retarded.

   
   Bullshit you got pwnd
10. 2018-03-14 at 12:30 AM UTC

    #50
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Bullshit you got pwnd

    
    Tutorial: How to transparently dodge a simple question with a two word answer
11. 2018-03-14 at 12:32 AM UTC

    #51
    

    Speedy Parker Black Hole

    Originally posted by Jeremus Tutorial: How to transparently dodge a simple question with a two word answer

    
    I presented 15 minutes of material which you dodged.
12. 2018-03-14 at 12:35 AM UTC

    #52
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker I presented 15 minutes of material which you dodged.

    
    Go ahead, answer the question. All you have to say is which one is which.
13. 2018-03-14 at 1:34 AM UTC

    #53
    

    BlueWarlock Yung Blood

    Originally posted by benny vader wellcome back totse2001.

    
    totse2001 was a header, never really a username.
    
    I am Beige Warlock. currently utilizing Blue Warlock as a pseudo for Beige Warlock. I not endorse
14. 2018-03-14 at 3:05 AM UTC

    #54
    

    Lanny Bird of Courage

    Originally posted by Jeremus The will of the people is all that matters and what makes things right and wrong. If you don't like that, you are probably a homosexual.

    
    Wut? Genocide and bigotry are commonly "the will of the people". Maybe not in the USA right now (maybe) but there are enough historical cases that it seems obvious "the mob" will elect obviously morally reprehensible things, as well as things not even in their own best interest.
15. 2018-03-14 at 3:12 AM UTC

    #55
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Lanny Wut? Genocide and bigotry are commonly "the will of the people". Maybe not in the USA right now (maybe) but there are enough historical cases that it seems obvious "the mob" will elect obviously morally reprehensible things, as well as things not even in their own best interest.

    
    Morally reprehensible according to whom? Everything we do societally comes from consensus, including our morals. All executive power is derived from the will of the people. Unless you want to push some kind of divine command theory or objective morality, I don't see how you can argue against the dominance of the will of the people being the ultimate basis of our society, and everything else in between the will of the people and its execution, as essentially being a vestige of the time when they were a systematic necessity. My hope would be only that reason and humanity wins out.
16. 2018-03-14 at 3:18 AM UTC

    #56
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Let me put it this way: I think direct democracy is the logical endgame for humanity. But that only comes after we conquer things like bigotry.
17. 2018-03-14 at 3:24 AM UTC

    #57
    

    Lanny Bird of Courage

    Originally posted by Jeremus Morally reprehensible according to whom?

    
    To anyone who thinks genocide is not an acceptable way to solve problems?
    
    

    Everything we do societally comes from consensus, including our morals.

    
    Clearly not true. Religious minorities and conscientious objectors are obvious examples of people with moral principles contrary to the "will of the people"
    
    

    All executive power is derived from the will of the people. Unless you want to push some kind of divine command theory or objective morality, I don't see how you can argue against the dominance of the will of the people being the ultimate basis of our society, and everything else in between the will of the people and its execution, as essentially being a vestige of the time when they were a systematic necessity. My hope would be only that reason and humanity wins out.

    
    No command theory required at all. Act utilitarians can easily deny a "consent of the governed" framework of rule on by making the case that it's not an optimal means of securing the well being on the citizenry, which it's quite obviously not.
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18. 2018-03-14 at 3:25 AM UTC

    #58
    

    Lanny Bird of Courage

    Originally posted by Jeremus Let me put it this way: I think direct democracy is the logical endgame for humanity. But that only comes after we conquer things like bigotry.

    
    So you agree then that all industrialized democracies are doomed?
19. 2018-03-14 at 3:34 AM UTC

    #59
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Lanny To anyone who thinks genocide is not an acceptable way to solve problems?

    
    Idk dude, sounds like cuck talk to me.
20. 2018-03-14 at 3:37 AM UTC

    #60
    

    Lanny Bird of Courage
    cucked into not supporting genocide. Damn, next thing you know I'm going to die my hair blue.