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2018-03-10 at 3:28 PM UTCI think if someone can't take the heat, then they really shouldn't be here anyways. This place is for a special kind of crazy.
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2018-03-10 at 3:28 PM UTC
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2018-03-10 at 3:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic Are you kidding me? Every hard opiate user I know has suffered from depression, apathy and a whole host of other mental issues from using. Just because it won't put you in psychosis like meth doesn't mean it doesn't affect your brain.
what the fuck are you talking about? any heroin addict suffering with depression is purely situational, as in their situation is shit and hopeless, and not as a result of the effects of the heroin. heroin is non-tissue toxic, it does not cause permanent damage to tissue or any bodily organs, including the brain.
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2018-03-10 at 4:04 PM UTC
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2018-03-10 at 4:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist what the fuck are you talking about? any heroin addict suffering with depression is purely situational, as in their situation is shit and hopeless, and not as a result of the effects of the heroin. heroin is non-tissue toxic, it does not cause permanent damage to tissue or any bodily organs, including the brain.
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You are straight up in denial dude. I'm not saying it causes tissue damage, but it definitely comes with a chemically induced depression. You really think something that makes your brain adjust itself so that the feeling of absolute bliss becomes a normal everyday experience that you eventually need just to function isn't doing damage? You're right in that it doesn't necessarily cause any damage to the body, however, I would say that's irrelevant for the most part anyways, since it's basically always cut with some other nasty shit that's going to fuck you up. Do you think smoking acetic acid is good for your lungs? I know you don't IV but a lot of people do and that shit is inseparable from damaging your organs.
There's also the fact that I don't know anyone who has used heroin that hasn't fell out at least once. You think depriving your brain of oxygen is not going to do any damage? Shit, I've blacked out many times off high doses of oxycontin and heroin. I'm not a doctor, but something gives me a hunch that if you can't remember shit, your brain is not going to come out of that completely unscathed. There's a shitload of negative health effects of heroin. -
2018-03-10 at 4:55 PM UTCAlso there's the fact that it fucks your hormones up.
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2018-03-10 at 4:55 PM UTCI never got PMs either, on this account or my last one
He probably got sick of trying to argue with "racists"
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2018-03-10 at 4:58 PM UTC
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2018-03-10 at 5:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic Also there's the fact that it fucks your hormones up.
This thread is now about the negative effects of heroin.
then maybe you should look up the actual effects of heroin and not just over-exaggerated war on drugs prop, and assumptions and conjecture that you've made yourself. i've used this stuff for 23 years, pretty heavily for a lot of that. i always made it my business to know the real facts about the stuff. try finding us some unbiased sources that support these claims you're making. also let me point out another fact for you, junkies are notorious for using many other substances on top of heroin, so just observing a user with a certain condition is no reliable indication that its heroin alone or even in part that has caused that condition.
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2018-03-10 at 6:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist then maybe you should look up the actual effects of heroin and not just over-exaggerated war on drugs prop, and assumptions and conjecture that you've made yourself. i've used this stuff for 23 years, pretty heavily for a lot of that. i always made it my business to know the real facts about the stuff. try finding us some unbiased sources that support these claims you're making. also let me point out another fact for you, junkies are notorious for using many other substances on top of heroin, so just observing a user with a certain condition is no reliable indication that its heroin alone or even in part that has caused that condition.
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You aren't able to refute one thing I've said. You're argument essentially boils down to "You're wrong, but I won't say why, obviously you haven't done enough research."
Like a 23 year heroin addict isn't going to be biased. Lol get real. -
2018-03-10 at 6:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic You aren't able to refute one thing I've said. You're argument essentially boils down to "You're wrong, but I won't say why, obviously you haven't done enough research."
Like a 23 year heroin addict isn't going to be biased. Lol get real.
i'm also healthier than most people i know at my age.
i was reading this tho earlier, from the mount sanai hospital research dept. it basically summarizes that not much is understood on drug induced depression. so i'd love to know how you're such an expert on the subject.
http://neuroscience.mssm.edu/nestler/MolecularBasisofAddiction&Depression.html
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2018-03-10 at 6:41 PM UTCI've ran some numbers, Walnut Creek seems to be behind this.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-03-10 at 6:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist i'm also healthier than most people i know at my age.
i was reading this tho earlier, from the mount sanai hospital research dept. it basically summarizes that not much is understood on drug induced depression. so i'd love to know how you're such an expert on the subject.
http://neuroscience.mssm.edu/nestler/MolecularBasisofAddiction&Depression.html
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It's undeniable. Just because the mechanism may not be well understood, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've personally felt it, and literally every opiate user I know develops depression. Literally everybody knows this. -
2018-03-10 at 7:17 PM UTCone of my favorites:
I honestly have no idea what those words mean. Pretty sure I've never been in any video you'd have seen. And if "mossad triad" refers to some kind of organized crime I assure you that's like the exact opposite of me
Score this, put away that. that's how it works. I know the insides of corruption. You would think they would have half a brain out there at the wh not to mention bringing in Dragons Breath for the seedy underbelly contractors to us on their victims. It's already documented multiple times. Anyways.. naw.. I'm sure it's not "Organized" crime.. just crime -
2018-03-10 at 8:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic You aren't able to refute one thing I've said. You're argument essentially boils down to "You're wrong, but I won't say why, obviously you haven't done enough research."
Like a 23 year heroin addict isn't going to be biased. Lol get real.
Wait if he used the stuff for 23 years and he's 23 that means he was doing heroin when he was like 6 years old. -
2018-03-10 at 8:18 PM UTCThe most medically significant side effect of pure diacetylmorphine is constipation
If it were legal there would be no unintentional overdoses
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2018-03-10 at 8:21 PM UTCwe miss you
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2018-03-10 at 8:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic It's undeniable. Just because the mechanism may not be well understood, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've personally felt it, and literally every opiate user I know develops depression. Literally everybody knows this.
i really don't know where you get your info from dude. but how long you been using for? what other substances do you use?
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2018-03-10 at 8:49 PM UTCi mean has it ever even occurred to you that a lot of people start using heroin coz their life sux and they use to escape, then the addiction makes their shitty life worse?
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2018-03-10 at 8:52 PM UTCbut you know, maybe you're right and you have discovered a definitive link between opiate use and depression. if so then you really should contact the scientific and medical communities, write up a paper. you should call this phenomenon 'greenplastic syndrome'.
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