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Why I hate women: 2009. That year really fucked me up.
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2018-02-04 at 9:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by Enter Sure, it was a slick sounding year. 2009. Boo yeah. But it was filled with a lot of pain and rejection.
Song to listen to while reading this thread:
The biggest blow was when I met up with that chick who rejected me upon meeting her, despite us chatting for 3 years. That hurt. That fucking hurt. But I knew I had to get back on the horse! I knew I couldn't let one experience sour me forever, or I'd end up ranting and raving about women non-stop 10 years later.
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Uh… anyway…
This girl I knew decided to help me "get over my ex" (I told her it was my ex because I didn't want her thinking it was just an internet girlfriend who rejected me upon meeting). She invited me to her house to watch a movie together, but I didn't go coz earlier that day she said she had another guy over. Like, wtf? You're just fucking any random guy?
So I told her I couldn't go coz I had to console my friend who was sad. She messaged me later and said "it's okay if you were lying, was your friend really sad?" and I said "ahh okay I was lying" and the bitch RAGED at me, calling me a fucking asshole for not going since she had set everything up to watch the movie, etc. This was a weird one. I'm not sure why she wanted me to go over so badly. She was really hot, way hotter than my internet girlfriend, so I assume she just wanted me over there to humiliate me, not to actually do anything sexual.
Then I was chatting to this girl from my old high school, who didn't know who I was (she never actually met me in high school, but we chatted and kept humorously having near misses in real life. "Oh my god, you were at the math department? I was JUST there lol!") So we finally decided to meet IRL. The look of disappointment on her face, lol. She brought her (hotter) female friend with her though, and her friend actually seemed to like me better than she did. We spent a couple of hours walking around the city, and as we were going home, I remember her friend was like, "Let's see that movie the next time we hang out!" and then the first girl replied with "Um… yeeeah…" implying they'd never be hanging out with me again, lol. She never spoke to me again after that.
Then this asian chick I knew was saying how cute I was and brought up how we should date once she finishes her studies that semester, but I suspected it was her setting me up as a joke since she was friends with this guy who hated me. So I never spoke to her again (didn't really care – I don't find asians sexually attractive).
That was it for that year. I was broken. I knew women completely hated me, and then for the next decade just sat alone in my room and stewed in self-pity and resentment.
Don’t they call it “maths” in your country? -
2018-02-04 at 9:53 AM UTCDo you want to hear my honest thoughts or would you like me to make you feel better?
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2018-02-04 at 9:54 AM UTC
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2018-02-04 at 10:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by Enter Honest thoughts, and then at the end try to make me feel better.
Ok.
Originally posted by Enter The biggest blow was when I met up with that chick who rejected me upon meeting her, despite us chatting for 3 years. That hurt. That fucking hurt. But I knew I had to get back on the horse! I knew I couldn't let one experience sour me forever, or I'd end up ranting and raving about women non-stop 10 years later.
That was a shitty thing of her to do. But in general, internet romance is a fool's errand. If you do embark on it, at least meet face to face through something like skype. In any case, i fell in love with a girl from the internet once too. She was pretty, and exactly my type. We could talk about everything, but over time we kind of lost contact. It was doomed to fail anyway, since she lived halfway across the world.
Why am i telling you this story? IDK just a little anecdote, i can relate in a way.
Originally posted by Enter Uh… anyway…
This girl I knew decided to help me "get over my ex" (I told her it was my ex because I didn't want her thinking it was just an internet girlfriend who rejected me upon meeting). She invited me to her house to watch a movie together, but I didn't go coz earlier that day she said she had another guy over. Like, wtf? You're just fucking any random guy?
So I told her I couldn't go coz I had to console my friend who was sad. She messaged me later and said "it's okay if you were lying, was your friend really sad?" and I said "ahh okay I was lying" and the bitch RAGED at me, calling me a fucking asshole for not going since she had set everything up to watch the movie, etc. This was a weird one. I'm not sure why she wanted me to go over so badly. She was really hot, way hotter than my internet girlfriend, so I assume she just wanted me over there to humiliate me, not to actually do anything sexual.
Your first mistake was assuming she would be fucking said other guy. Your second mistake was you not showing up, your third was lying about the reason and your fourth was admitting you had lied.
Why do you think she was angry? Because she didn't get a chance to humiliate you? Do you honestly believe that people that think of you as someone to be humiliated would give a shit if you had lied to them? I don't think they would. If they are in it to humiliate you they think you're a piece of shit anyway and would not get emotionally invested in the way she did. You even said: "she had set everything up to watch the movie".
She went out of her way for you. Sex/no sex/whatever, she went through some trouble to make watching the movie enjoyable for you. You know, like you do when yo have people(friends/whatever) over to come watch a movie or do some stuff at your house.
Clearly this indicates that she cared for how you felt, the reason why you refuse(d) to believe that is because that one girl hurt you. You know, anger is a funny thing, sadness too. We get sad, and then we get really angry to wall ourselves off from our sadness. You know, Greyfox used to say anger is fear announced but actually anger is more closely related to sadness.
The fundamental issue here is that you have no sense of self worth. When the internet girl rejected you somewhere deep down in your heart you said to yourself: "See, i'm worthless, i knew it". You became sad and your anger towards this girl became a way of protecting yourself from this feeling. Well it turns out that's a shitty coping strategy. It's not your fault though, that's the good news, it's the fault of the people who should have taught you coping strategies. Your parents, i remember in the other thread you mentioned how most of your early childhood memories were of abuse or neglect of some sort. Well there you go. In this situation a child has to come up with their own coping strategies. And this anger is yours.
I'll tell you though, the problem is not with women in general even though i will admit there are a lot of bitches and cunts out there, but more to the core of the issue is how you perceive them. You perceive them through this veil of anger that you threw up as a coping mechanism. And it poisons your view of all women.
The rest of your post below just displays your confirmation bias towards the view you took of "women are evil".
Originally posted by Enter Then I was chatting to this girl from my old high school, who didn't know who I was (she never actually met me in high school, but we chatted and kept humorously having near misses in real life. "Oh my god, you were at the math department? I was JUST there lol!") So we finally decided to meet IRL. The look of disappointment on her face, lol. She brought her (hotter) female friend with her though, and her friend actually seemed to like me better than she did. We spent a couple of hours walking around the city, and as we were going home, I remember her friend was like, "Let's see that movie the next time we hang out!" and then the first girl replied with "Um… yeeeah…" implying they'd never be hanging out with me again, lol. She never spoke to me again after that.
That was a bitch move though and you've been dealt a tough hand but if you let it influence your thinking and occupy your mind 24/7 then you are never really free and the bitchy women(not all of them) win.
You're not worthless, you're Charizard remember? -
2018-02-04 at 10:37 AM UTC...He’s fuckin ivysaur dude
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2018-02-04 at 10:39 AM UTC
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2018-02-04 at 10:42 AM UTCNah I missed it that thread got way too long for my attention span.
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2018-02-04 at 11:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie That was a shitty thing of her to do. But in general, internet romance is a fool's errand. If you do embark on it, at least meet face to face through something like skype. In any case, i fell in love with a girl from the internet once too. She was pretty, and exactly my type. We could talk about everything, but over time we kind of lost contact. It was doomed to fail anyway, since she lived halfway across the world.
Why am i telling you this story? IDK just a little anecdote, i can relate in a way.
Nah, that was the fucked thing. We shared pics, we shared videos, we talked on the phone, we went on webcam together. That's why it didn't make sense that she'd reject me. :/
You're right that internet romances are shit though; I'd never let something like that go on for so long again. But in my defense, it started when I was in high school; I was only a teenager. Didn't have the means to go meet her right away.Your first mistake was assuming she would be fucking said other guy. Your second mistake was you not showing up, your third was lying about the reason and your fourth was admitting you had lied.
Why do you think she was angry? Because she didn't get a chance to humiliate you? Do you honestly believe that people that think of you as someone to be humiliated would give a shit if you had lied to them? I don't think they would. If they are in it to humiliate you they think you're a piece of shit anyway and would not get emotionally invested in the way she did. You even said: "she had set everything up to watch the movie".
She went out of her way for you. Sex/no sex/whatever, she went through some trouble to make watching the movie enjoyable for you. You know, like you do when yo have people(friends/whatever) over to come watch a movie or do some stuff at your house.
Clearly this indicates that she cared for how you felt, the reason why you refuse(d) to believe that is because that one girl hurt you. You know, anger is a funny thing, sadness too. We get sad, and then we get really angry to wall ourselves off from our sadness. You know, Greyfox used to say anger is fear announced but actually anger is more closely related to sadness.
The fundamental issue here is that you have no sense of self worth. When the internet girl rejected you somewhere deep down in your heart you said to yourself: "See, i'm worthless, i knew it". You became sad and your anger towards this girl became a way of protecting yourself from this feeling. Well it turns out that's a shitty coping strategy. It's not your fault though, that's the good news, it's the fault of the people who should have taught you coping strategies. Your parents, i remember in the other thread you mentioned how most of your early childhood memories were of abuse or neglect of some sort. Well there you go. In this situation a child has to come up with their own coping strategies. And this anger is yours.
I'll tell you though, the problem is not with women in general even though i will admit there are a lot of bitches and cunts out there, but more to the core of the issue is how you perceive them. You perceive them through this veil of anger that you threw up as a coping mechanism. And it poisons your view of all women.
The rest of your post below just displays your confirmation bias towards the view you took of "women are evil".
That was a bitch move though and you've been dealt a tough hand but if you let it influence your thinking and occupy your mind 24/7 then you are never really free and the bitchy women(not all of them) win.
You're not worthless, you're Charizard remember?
Okay, I read all that and let it sink in, and you're right.
Unfortunately, it seems way too late for me to change now. I'm not saying that in a defeated way; I genuinely think I've gone off the rails. I'm mentally disturbed. Look at all the constant threads I'm making about how I hate women. Imagine if the topic was something else, like I was making 10 threads a day about how I hate eggs for years and years. That's fucked. I realize it's fucked.
I'm going to fiji for a week tomorrow. Will see if that helps me mentally. I definitely need a change, and some independence. I'll also get a hooker. Who knows, this could be life changing.
And if it doesn't work, I might have to see a psychologist. -
2018-02-04 at 12:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Enter Sure, it was a slick sounding year. 2009. Boo yeah. But it was filled with a lot of pain and rejection.
Song to listen to while reading this thread:
The biggest blow was when I met up with that chick who rejected me upon meeting her, despite us chatting for 3 years. That hurt. That fucking hurt. But I knew I had to get back on the horse! I knew I couldn't let one experience sour me forever, or I'd end up ranting and raving about women non-stop 10 years later.
…
Uh… anyway…
This girl I knew decided to help me "get over my ex" (I told her it was my ex because I didn't want her thinking it was just an internet girlfriend who rejected me upon meeting). She invited me to her house to watch a movie together, but I didn't go coz earlier that day she said she had another guy over. Like, wtf? You're just fucking any random guy?
So I told her I couldn't go coz I had to console my friend who was sad. She messaged me later and said "it's okay if you were lying, was your friend really sad?" and I said "ahh okay I was lying" and the bitch RAGED at me, calling me a fucking asshole for not going since she had set everything up to watch the movie, etc. This was a weird one. I'm not sure why she wanted me to go over so badly. She was really hot, way hotter than my internet girlfriend, so I assume she just wanted me over there to humiliate me, not to actually do anything sexual.
Then I was chatting to this girl from my old high school, who didn't know who I was (she never actually met me in high school, but we chatted and kept humorously having near misses in real life. "Oh my god, you were at the math department? I was JUST there lol!") So we finally decided to meet IRL. The look of disappointment on her face, lol. She brought her (hotter) female friend with her though, and her friend actually seemed to like me better than she did. We spent a couple of hours walking around the city, and as we were going home, I remember her friend was like, "Let's see that movie the next time we hang out!" and then the first girl replied with "Um… yeeeah…" implying they'd never be hanging out with me again, lol. She never spoke to me again after that.
Then this asian chick I knew was saying how cute I was and brought up how we should date once she finishes her studies that semester, but I suspected it was her setting me up as a joke since she was friends with this guy who hated me. So I never spoke to her again (didn't really care – I don't find asians sexually attractive).
That was it for that year. I was broken. I knew women completely hated me, and then for the next decade just sat alone in my room and stewed in self-pity and resentment.
Like none of us were ever rejected?
Dude, I went for anything and everthing when I was a teenager, even if that meant total rejection. I didn't give a shit. I wouldn't give a shit now. "OHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOO, THE GIRL I WANTED TO FUCK DOESN'T LIKE ME BACK!!!!!!!! GONNA RUIN MY OWN LIFE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - doesn't make a lot of sense.
Sounds like you at least had chances, you might have just blew them. Maybe you get so nervous, you get weird? Women like confidence, even if it is fake. They don't like a nervous cunt, that's for sure. -
2018-02-04 at 1:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Enter Okay, I read all that and let it sink in, and you're right.
Thank you for taking the time to read it all and taking it to heart. I tried my best to clarify the situation as i see it, for you.
Originally posted by Enter Unfortunately, it seems way too late for me to change now. I'm not saying that in a defeated way; I genuinely think I've gone off the rails. I'm mentally disturbed. Look at all the constant threads I'm making about how I hate women. Imagine if the topic was something else, like I was making 10 threads a day about how I hate eggs for years and years. That's fucked. I realize it's fucked.
I'm going to fiji for a week tomorrow. Will see if that helps me mentally. I definitely need a change, and some independence. I'll also get a hooker. Who knows, this could be life changing.
And if it doesn't work, I might have to see a psychologist.
Yeah man, go to Fiji, i hope it helps you need to get out of this cycle. If Fiji doesn't help maybe a psychologist will. If not now then when? -
2018-02-04 at 4:31 PM UTC