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2018-01-02 at 4:04 AM UTC
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2018-01-02 at 4:09 AM UTCWhat should become of Christians then? Should we be interned and reprogrammed? Heaven forbid we embrace traditional family values and want to worship our God in peace. No, we need the guidance and correction of urban liberals such as yourself.
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2018-01-02 at 4:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by D4NG0 What should become of Christians then? Should we be interned and reprogrammed? Heaven forbid we embrace traditional family values and want to worship our God in peace. No, we need the guidance and correction of urban liberals such as yourself.
No, they just shouldn't be allowed to indoctrinate kids into their cult. You don't let pimps recruit at schools, you shouldn't let cult followers recruit in the home. -
2018-01-02 at 4:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny No, they just shouldn't be allowed to indoctrinate kids into their cult. You don't let pimps recruit at schools, you shouldn't let cult followers recruit in the home.
Okay, then kids can't be raised in any other religion or belief system. The state must intervene in all families to ensure only government approved material is consumed by the youth. -
2018-01-02 at 4:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by D4NG0 Okay, then kids can't be raised in any other religion or belief system.
Seems reasonable. The state will eventually intervene if you teach your kid to steal for your benefit, or make them work in a factory because their small hands can better assemble small items. Exploiting your kid and indoctrinating them into a cult doesn't seem much different. -
2018-01-02 at 4:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Seems reasonable. The state will eventually intervene if you teach your kid to steal for your benefit, or make them work in a factory because their small hands can better assemble small items. Exploiting your kid and indoctrinating them into a cult doesn't seem much different.
Seems reasonable. Yes, complete government control of the youth seems reasonable.
Are you trolling, or is that really how much you hate Christians? -
2018-01-02 at 4:34 AM UTCI don't hate Christians. I just think being raised by homosexuals (people who have a certain aesthetic preference) is less damaging to a child than being told a bag of lies are absolute truth and that they'll be punished with literally unending suffering if they don't conform to a ambiguous, arbitrary, and undemocratic moral code with zero justification.
I don't think people should be stopped from joining cults. I think parents should be stopped from enrolling their children in cults. -
2018-01-02 at 4:35 AM UTCYou should try having a little more anal sex. It could make you a better parent.
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2018-01-02 at 4:50 AM UTCHomosexuals make up 1% of the population but 33% of child molesters. The vast majority of homosexuals were sexually abused as minors.
(K. Freund and R.I. Watson, "The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443, cited in "The Problem of Pedophilia," op. cit. Also, K. Freund and R.I. Watson, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (Fall 1984): 197, cited in NARTH Fact Sheet. ) -
2018-01-02 at 5:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by Enter Homosexuals make up 1% of the population but 33% of child molesters. The vast majority of homosexuals were sexually abused as minors.
(K. Freund and R.I. Watson, "The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443, cited in "The Problem of Pedophilia," op. cit. Also, K. Freund and R.I. Watson, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (Fall 1984): 197, cited in NARTH Fact Sheet. )
Have you read even one of these papers? Last line of the abstract of the first paper:This, of course, should not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children
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2018-01-02 at 5:05 AM UTC
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2018-01-02 at 6:07 AM UTCMost straight people I know are fucked up from their straight parents. It's not an issue of masculine or feminine, it's a people problem. Children should not be raised in families, that's a great way to guarantee they get the worst of both parents. Ideally, they wouldn't be conceived in the first place. The ones that are should be raised by a skeleton government branch that treats them with as much empathy as you'd expect from state employees and no more.
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2018-01-02 at 9:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny I don't hate Christians. I just think being raised by homosexuals (people who have a certain aesthetic preference) is less damaging to a child than being told a bag of lies are absolute truth and that they'll be punished with literally unending suffering if they don't conform to a ambiguous, arbitrary, and undemocratic moral code with zero justification.
I don't think people should be stopped from joining cults. I think parents should be stopped from enrolling their children in cults.
Oh please. Regardless of whether you believe in God or not, there's nothing wrong with the Christian way of life. Likening it to a cult is ridiculous.
Homosexuals are deviant, even by evolutionary standards. Allowing them to have children normalizes perverse behavior, and is not fair to the kids who have to deal with it. There's a reason they can't reproduce naturally. -
2018-01-02 at 9:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by D4NG0 Oh please. Regardless of whether you believe in God or not, there's nothing wrong with the Christian way of life. Likening it to a cult is ridiculous.
Do you believe in the mystical powers of a charismatic figure? Yes.
Is there a body of people who mediate your relationship with this figure which tries to extract money from you? Yes.
Do you routinely attend some sort of ceremony to educate you on what views you should hold and what you should do? Yup.
Sounds like a cult to meHomosexuals are deviant
Going to have to make an argument for why deviants a priori unfit parents before this becomes relevant.even by evolutionary standards.
"deviant" doesn't mean anything in evolutionary biology and that's a naturalistic fallacy.Allowing them to have children normalizes perverse behavior
You only think it's perverse because you're in a cult. It's your cult is perverse.
But you know that right? Like you know I don't think homosexuality is morally wrong, so why are you trying to make the argument "homosexuals adopting children is wrong because their sexual choices are morally wrong"? Like are you trying to make an argument or are you just trying to articulate your opinion for some reason? If it's the prior, you're going to have to start from some premise we agree on, which "fags are evils" is not. -
2018-01-02 at 9:53 AM UTCi'm no fan of homo's but i gonna have to side with lanny here
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2018-01-02 at 10:02 AM UTCSome denominations are more cult-ish than others. The church I went to as a child was very normal with no pressure to conform to any of it. But I had a friend from across town whose church was essentially exploiting his family for labor and taking large portions of their income, and they would perform exorcisms more frequently than they had to.
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2018-01-02 at 10:17 AM UTChumans are slow to advance. The rest of the world is beating the USA> hell a poor ass country (though let its people starve) will eventually build itself into a super nation. if talks with south korea suddenly goes in NK favor, there could eventually be open trade for NK. all the while secretly advacing more and more in space and weapon technology. because no one ended that regiem long ago. it has true hate for the USA and is calling us everyday telling us "One day, I'll be waiting and when you let your guard down, I'm gonna off you and your neighbors and family and friends".
+|But it's just rheteric.. it means something else" bullshit stupid liberal shitheads. -
2018-01-02 at 10:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny No, they just shouldn't be allowed to indoctrinate kids into their cult. You don't let pimps recruit at schools, you shouldn't let cult followers recruit in the home.
Its shills that have taken over churches and used people of faith to make money
No one asked to commit 10 percent back when I was a kid. You just gave what you could afford. so I know a different type of non catholic denomination has taken over the church i went to.
But the worshipers aren't so bad. unless they just go to church for business deals or looking for something else. taking advantage of "Forget and love thy neighbor" people who practice it well and taking advantage of people who are trustworthy of everyone around them.
it's kind of weird. not everyone in the church is like that, but they'll find people and see them as week and not people willing to take a chance.
And Lanny, you shouldn'tbadger Christians and their faith like this. I know there are a lot of sicko priest molesting kids.. when we were young we heard that and though it more of a bashing on Priest than being factual (at least I, I didn't attend Catholic Church much.. only to go with friend or help out with their carnavals) certainly not all priest are like that.. but it's people who are sick and lust underage youths (usually Boys) who move into the priesthood.. probably raped themselves as a choirboy.
I believe in Romans and Genisis it talks of sin of men and women laying together (I assume sexually.. perhaps an orgy) but no where else in the bible. Jesus never once spoke of Homosexuality but he spoke of out of marriage sex. so that pretty much points to everyone here and 80 percent of western culture. -
2018-01-02 at 10:34 AM UTC
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2018-01-02 at 10:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Do you believe in the mystical powers of a charismatic figure? Yes.
Is there a body of people who mediate your relationship with this figure which tries to extract money from you? Yes.
Do you routinely attend some sort of ceremony to educate you on what views you should hold and what you should do? Yup.
Sounds like a cult to me
Charismatic figure simply ='s God. By that reasoning, every religion is guilty.
Your relationship is directly with God, the church is simply a collection of believers. You don't owe your tithe to the church, but to God.
Church services are optional, but a great way to fellowship and worship. You can get to heaven without ever setting foot in a church or forking over money to a group of Christians.
Originally posted by Lanny "deviant" doesn't mean anything in evolutionary biology and that's a naturalistic fallacy.
Deviant, unnatural, abnormal, whatever you want to call it.
Originally posted by Lanny You only think it's perverse because you're in a cult. It's your cult is perverse.
But you know that right? Like you know I don't think homosexuality is morally wrong, so why are you trying to make the argument "homosexuals adopting children is wrong because their sexual choices are morally wrong"? Like are you trying to make an argument or are you just trying to articulate your opinion for some reason? If it's the prior, you're going to have to start from some premise we agree on, which "fags are evils" is not.
It's not a cult, nor have I ever said "fags are evil". They have perverse desires, much like pedos, and I wish them the best in finding a healthy way to deal with them.
There's actually no reason to drag morals into this. You're the one who latched onto my religion; it really triggers you. Even before I was a Christian I thought homosexuality was perverse. Can you not fathom that or something? It's unnatural, and not conducive to promoting traditional family values. Again, there's a reason homos cannot reproduce naturally, and we need to quit this twisted social experiment of giving them children.