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Another Example why 5.56x45mm is a Piece of Shit

  1. #1
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Ive always pointed out what a piece of shit the 5.56x45mm...also known as .223 Remington...is as a combat round. here is yet another example why this round needs to be retired as the primary duty round for not only the US military, but the american police as well.

    That fruitcake shooter in houston:

    - fired approximately 212 rounds

    - all six people he shot with it, lived, including one wearing body armor

    - the only death was not from the rifle

    - a helicopter was hit 5 times but received only superficial damage.
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    Number13 African Astronaut [dispute my snotty-nosed seagull]
    Yeah that's why intermediates are picking up speed but they won't go anywhere or be cheap enough to be usable until they're adopted by the military and that's not gonna happen.
  3. #3
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    semi-related: near where I live, some guy was waving a large knife about in a shopping centre and the cops tried to put him down. they managed to accidentally shoot 4 bystanders
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    Ive always pointed out what a piece of shit the 5.56x45mm…also known as .223 Remington…is as a combat round. here is yet another example why this round needs to be retired as the primary duty round for not only the US military, but the american police as well.

    That fruitcake shooter in houston:

    - fired approximately 212 rounds

    - all six people he shot with it, lived, including one wearing body armor

    - the only death was not from the rifle

    - a helicopter was hit 5 times but received only superficial damage.


    I read this article on some crazy conspiracy website that said that the 5.56 was developed not to kill, but to cause severe injury to enemy combatants, so that the opposing force would run out of resources trying to keep everybody alive

    I'm starting to believe it
  5. #5
    infinityshock Black Hole
    I read this article on some crazy conspiracy website that said that the 5.56 was developed not to kill, but to cause severe injury to enemy combatants, so that the opposing force would run out of resources trying to keep everybody alive

    I'm starting to believe it

    ive heard that story repeated quite a bit, but the reality of warfare is you make the enemy die as quickly as you can because if you only wound them theyre going to kill you or your soldiers. there are many anecdotal stories from 'nam about the .223s ineffectiveness, altho technically not relevant because the currently issued rifle and ammunition is virtually a completely different gun/ammo from what was issued then.

    there are many first-person stories ive heard about how a .223 failed miserably at taking down a rampaging haji (sandbox...middle east) or nigger (africa)

    the 'real' reason the .223 round was adopted by the US/NATO was purely, 100% political and had very little relation to effectiveness or what the military wanted or needed. the justification the military used to 'taking' the .223 was because it was a smaller cartridge that allowed more ammo to be carried.

    i wrote a long thread on the politics and shittyness of the .223 on some other fagboard and it caused so much torn vagina they permabanned me.
  6. #6
    Legend Yung Blood
    There are plenty of instances of fighters taking several 7.62x51 real fucking NATO and shrugging it off until they lose enough blood. 5.56 hits harder than any service pistol cartridge and creates large wound cavities, wider than 7.62x39, within 100m.
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    Number13 African Astronaut [dispute my snotty-nosed seagull]
    Why didn't they go for something inbetween in the first place? 28 rounds of 6.8 would do a better job than 30 of 5.56 or 20 of 7.62, fucking america man.
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    bling bling Dark Matter
    they use guns while we angrily shot arrows
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