Originally posted by aldra
it was Japan during world war 2, and the US, usurping the core scientific group of Unit 731, continued their brutal germ warfare experiments five years later as they were driven out after bombing every single building in the country.
I hope you taste the VX personally.
I was not in a good way when I posted this, I don't actually wish nerve agents upon you
I just don't understand why people demonise NK so hard - I probably wouldn't want to live there, but they've been shaped by nonstop aggression and hardship since WWII.
1. The US actively prevents reunification talks between NK and SK as an end to the 'conflict' would mean there'd be no need for US military deployment
2. Back in the 90s, the US made an offer to NK - if they halted their nuclear (energy only at the time) research they were promised the lifting of sanctions and energy aid (natural gas refinery tech or something). The US walked away from the deal because they insisted on inspecting just about every NK military site, even though no such thing was included in the agreement. Understand that NK made big, concrete steps toward dismantling their nuclear energy program and got nothing in return:
so why should they make the effort again?
3. Trump and pals are continually echoing that diplomacy has failed, but what exactly have they brought to the table? Diplomacy is compromise; demanding NK disarm is not diplomacy.
4. The US (and others, but specifically the US is leading the charge) have been mounting aggression since the partition - ranging from crippling sanctions (and even sanctions on other countries where NK migrant workers travel to and from) to those constant military drills simulating NK's destruction. Do you not see why they feel they need some sort of deterrent?
5. Not five years after the NSDAP leadership was convicted of war crimes, specifically targeting civilian infrastructure such as dams and farms, the US was doing the exact same thing to NK.
6. Speaking of the NSDAP, it's well-known that the US and Russia tried to grab up as many German scientists and engineers as possible to the point where it's probably more accurate to say Nazis put man on the moon, not Americans. Operation Paperclip is common knowledge; what isn't is that the core team of Imperial Japan's
Germ Warfare UNIT-731 was also recruited by the US, and after they were driven out of NK, they used germ weapons as a sort of 'scorched earth' policy. The US DOD denies it to this day, but China and NK have evidence in the form of a massive spike in specific diseases (rubella and scarlet fever if I remember right) in towns in the wake of the US' departure. There are even (apparently, I haven't seen them) interviews with captured US pilots speaking of the chemical weapons they dropped, safety and handling details as well as markings that could be independently verified
And now for the fun part - nuclear weapons are for show only; they're a deterrent. Kim is a weird little guy but he's not an idiot- he's always stated NK will never initiate a first strike because it'd take very little nuclear firepower to wipe NK off the map... It's all about being part of the big boys club and having something to ward off further aggression.
I can think of two very serious ways that NK could attack and (not defeat, but) either cripple or collapse the US:
1. NK has stockpiles of and the capacity to mass-manufacture nerve agents or other chemical weapons. They also have ~70 diesel-electric submarines that run almost silently and can fire SLBMs that are officially unaccounted for (the subs, not the missiles). Given how many major cities are on the east coast even a single sarin/tabun/etc. missile would cause a monstrous number of deaths.
2. Power. This ties into nuclear, but not specifically - if either a medium-yield nuclear weapon (systems like THAAD couldn't stop it because it'd detonate too high up) or EMP device were used, the power grid would absolutely eat shit and need to be rebuilt almost from scratch - combined with the popular JIT paradigm, it's predicted over 90% of the population would starve in a matter of months.
***I just ate a bunch of somas so I'll have to reread later to make sure this post makes sense.
Post last edited by aldra at 2017-12-04T22:29:58.397875+00:00
