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2017-11-14 at 5:11 AM UTC
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2017-11-14 at 5:11 AM UTCnigga you aint gonna get naturalized at this rateThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-11-14 at 5:16 AM UTC
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2017-11-14 at 5:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny This was particularly comic since the history of social justice is primarily a christian affair in the West.
Social justice is an oxymoron and not equivalent to civil rights/charity/etc. Christians believe in individual accountability (particularly to God), so even if it was a thing, it would be immoral in practice.
Also, the Crusades were defensive wars waged by the Catholic church, not Christians. Christian values, which are taken from the Bible, have remained unchanged over the years. When believers divert from Christian values, they are not considered examples of the faith, but sinners. -
2017-11-14 at 5:42 AM UTCDefensive wars which involved the slaughtering of innocent peoples.
Also it's kind of silly to call the crusades a Catholic thing considering the word wasn't really invented yet.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-11-14 at 5:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dargo Social justice is an oxymoron and not equivalent to civil rights/charity/etc. Christians believe in individual accountability (particularly to God), so even if it was a thing, it would be immoral in practice.
I'm sure your idea of social justice is some scary lesbian with blue hair and a tumblr blog but I'm also sure you're wrong about what social justice means.the Catholic church, not Christians.
Don't start this again, we already established Catholics are Christians.
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2017-11-14 at 6:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny I'm sure you're idea of social justice is some scary lesbian with blue hair and a tumblr blog but I'm also sure you're wrong about what social justice means.
I didn't say social justice is a blue-haired lezbo. Social justice in its most basic sense means justice for the group/collective. In achieving such 'justice', however, the actions of individuals, right or wrong, are overlooked. You are judged as one, regardless of your personal decisions. This files in the face of Christian values of accountability, and is hardly what I consider to be true justice.
Originally posted by Lanny Don't start this again, we already established Catholics are Christians.
No. Catholics may act as Christians, but Christians themselves are not inherently Catholic. There are many doctrinal differences between the two in fact, where Catholics have deviated from God's word. -
2017-11-14 at 6:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dargo I didn't say social justice is a blue-haired lezbo. Social justice in its most basic sense means justice for the group/collective. In achieving such 'justice', however, the actions of individuals, right or wrong, are overlooked. You are judged as one, regardless of your personal decisions. This files in the face of Christian values of accountability, and is hardly what I consider to be true justice.
Lol, no. Here's a definition of social justice:
so·cial jus·tice
noun
justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
Can you point to what in there it says "the actions of individuals, right or wrong, are overlooked" because I'm not seeing it.No. Catholics may act as Christians, but Christians themselves are not inherently Catholic. There are many doctrinal differences between the two in fact, where Catholics have deviated from God's word.
I never said Christians "are inherently Catholic", pay attention. "Christianity" is a blanket term which includes any sect which deifies Jesus, this includes Catholics. All Catholics are christians, not all christians are catholics. It's obvious that you think you have a monopoly on true christian doctrine and that's nice and all but Catholics and hundreds of other denominations feel the same way about you. That doesn't change the fact that you all think the same nearly 2000 year dead fuckboi was god. -
2017-11-14 at 6:47 AM UTC
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2017-11-14 at 6:49 AM UTCWhy do never they shape jesus the in the form of breads??
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2017-11-14 at 6:50 AM UTC
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2017-11-14 at 7:02 AM UTCI still have never seen hydro. I just want to know. I promise I've fucked worse.
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2017-11-14 at 7:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon Saying the Civil War wasn't about slavery is like saying Night of the Living Dead wasn't about communism; people will just think you are retarded if you legitimately believe it.
Lolwut. Nobody actually cared about the slaves. They cared about the economics. The Morill tariff on imports put the south at a huge economic disadvantage because they didn't have as big of a manufacturing industry. There was lots of talk about seceding. Then Andrew Jackson lowered taxes. South stayed mad, they didn't want to lose what was one of their most profitable industries. Calhoun (SC senator) tried to fight back what he saw as federalism and give states the power to repeal federal mandates to get rid of this tax. Andrew Jackson told him to go fuck himself and threatened to come down to South Carolina and personally hang him.
At no point was anybody willing to go to war over some negros. The entire discussion was about economics. We might've had slavery for a while more if the South had been treated better. -
2017-11-14 at 7:07 AM UTC
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2017-11-14 at 8:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 Lolwut. Nobody actually cared about the slaves. They cared about the economics. The Morill tariff on imports put the south at a huge economic disadvantage because they didn't have as big of a manufacturing industry. There was lots of talk about seceding. Then Andrew Jackson lowered taxes. South stayed mad, they didn't want to lose what was one of their most profitable industries. Calhoun (SC senator) tried to fight back what he saw as federalism and give states the power to repeal federal mandates to get rid of this tax. Andrew Jackson told him to go fuck himself and threatened to come down to South Carolina and personally hang him.
At no point was anybody willing to go to war over some negros. The entire discussion was about economics. We might've had slavery for a while more if the South had been treated better.
If you're intellectually dishonest enough to try to cleave the term "slavery" from "all of the things buttressed by slavery" and consider only "the act of owning slaves", then there's no discussion to be had with you, you are too brain-dead to have an honest discussion on the subject -
2017-11-14 at 9:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 Hey mq, glad you're here. Would you explain to these fine gentileman what the consequences of the crusades were and are? Thanks.
I'd be happy to.
A lot of folks are of the belief that the Crusades were a fuzzy set of campaigns waged over hundreds of years for varied and complex political and social reasons, and they aren't too far off. Then there are those who tend to believe that the primary focus was "to convert and kill people of other religions," which is considered ignorant or intellectually dishonest by some, and agreed upon among others.
While certainly non-christians (and christians, as it happens) were the targets of these campaigns, it's not entirely discernible if that was their primary motivation.
While it's commonly agreed upon that laying it all at the feet of Catholicism tacitly pardons the variety of non-religious forces that brought it about, some studies are now showing that the Catholics may truly have been the sole culprits in instigating the Crusades.
Truth be told, the Crusades were no more about "killing and converting" than the civil war was about slavery, yet on the other hand that might not be true at all.
Its quite simply quite complex, and to be candid, despite my 100s of 1000s of hours of exhaustive analysis and in-depth reviews of every and all historical documents in existence to make even the most minor reference to the Crusades, I can never have enough lifetimes to distinguish one way or the other just what REALLY was going on. But I'll be damned if I don't die trying to piece it all together.
That's about it. Hope I was helpful for you guys. :)The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-11-14 at 11:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by jedi.Goldstein In the Britcuck mind Islam is like some sort of super-chill version of Buddhism with more moons and less monks. They assume muslims are probably super wise, and muslim women must be super cute under their hijabs. Muslims must be just like us in fact. There is no way anyone would not be just like us.
but its you that's assuming that we are just assuming that shit, when in fact most british will know a whole bunch of muslims personally, so its from actual experience. if you got to actually know a few muslims irl, instead of just fearing the unknown like a major pussy, you'd see how retarded what you're saying is. lol.
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2017-11-14 at 3:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist but its you that's assuming that we are just assuming that shit, when in fact most british will know a whole bunch of muslims personally, so its from actual experience. if you got to actually know a few muslims irl, instead of just fearing the unknown like a major pussy, you'd see how retarded what you're saying is. lol.
Dude, you knowing a few druggy North Africans doesn't mean Islam is nice.
Also the double standard here is sickening. Muslims can rape, kill, terrorise, do whatever they want, and you guys go "not all muslims", Christians attempted to set up colonies in the Levant 900 years ago and you're accusing them of trying to commit a genocide.
Whites keep being accused of genocide, it's the fundamental myth on which post WW2 civilisation is based. That it's a myth is made obvious by the fact that it is taboo and illegal to question. And don't you think if we whites wanted you degenerates dead we would have done it by now? -
2017-11-14 at 4:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ I'd be happy to.
A lot of folks are of the belief that the Crusades were a fuzzy set of campaigns waged over hundreds of years for varied and complex political and social reasons, and they aren't too far off. Then there are those who tend to believe that the primary focus was "to convert and kill people of other religions," which is considered ignorant or intellectually dishonest by some, and agreed upon among others.
While certainly non-christians (and christians, as it happens) were the targets of these campaigns, it's not entirely discernible if that was their primary motivation.
While it's commonly agreed upon that laying it all at the feet of Catholicism tacitly pardons the variety of non-religious forces that brought it about, some studies are now showing that the Catholics may truly have been the sole culprits in instigating the Crusades.
Truth be told, the Crusades were no more about "killing and converting" than the civil war was about slavery, yet on the other hand that might not be true at all.
Its quite simply quite complex, and to be candid, despite my 100s of 1000s of hours of exhaustive analysis and in-depth reviews of every and all historical documents in existence to make even the most minor reference to the Crusades, I can never have enough lifetimes to distinguish one way or the other just what REALLY was going on. But I'll be damned if I don't die trying to piece it all together.
That's about it. Hope I was helpful for you guys. :)
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2017-11-14 at 4:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist but its you that's assuming that we are just assuming that shit, when in fact most british will know a whole bunch of muslims personally, so its from actual experience. if you got to actually know a few muslims irl, instead of just fearing the unknown like a major pussy, you'd see how retarded what you're saying is. lol.
have you ever lived in a moose leem majority country ????
