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TRANSSEXUALISM = TRANSHUMANISM More shocking than we think 

  1. #21
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Lanny you know this thread actually has a good point though. Both transexualism and transhumanism, at least in so far as we're to take either as a serious philosophical position and not a mere aesthetic or legal trifle, are founded in a fundamental rejection of human essentialism. Both erode our image of ourselves in the world as innate and propose another, although in both cases poorly formed, image of the self as antecedent of the world.

    It's ironic then that these camps find themselves generally opposite in modern politics. Yet another example of the fundamental ignorance of philosophical concerns in public discourse: debate is mistaken for a game wherein moves are made towards some assigned rather than natural end as opposed to a dialectic wherein natural consequence alone is sought.

    In short you're all faggots.

    my head hurts.
  2. #22
    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    A tranny is usually just a gay person with gender dysphoria. It is a tragedy that these people, with a 40% suicide rate, are paraded as heroes and revolutionaries instead of rehabilitated and treated.
  3. #23
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Daily 40% suicide rate

    citation needed
  4. #24
    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    Originally posted by Lanny citation needed

    https://www.transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/USTS-Full-Report-FINAL.PDF

    pg 5. "The findings paint a troubling picture of the impact of stigma and discrimination on the
    health of many transgender people. A staggering 39% of respondents experienced serious
    psychological distress in the month prior to completing the survey, compared with only
    5% of the U.S. population. Among the starkest findings is that 40% of respondents have
    attempted suicide in their lifetime—nearly nine times the attempted suicide rate in the U.S.
    population (4.6%)."
  5. #25
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    "suicide rate" is not the same thing as "attempted suicide rate" braj
  6. #26
    Originally posted by Lanny you know this thread actually has a good point though. Both transexualism and transhumanism, at least in so far as we're to take either as a serious philosophical position and not a mere aesthetic or legal trifle, are founded in a fundamental rejection of human essentialism. Both erode our image of ourselves in the world as innate and propose another, although in both cases poorly formed, image of the self as antecedent of the world.

    It's ironic then that these camps find themselves generally opposite in modern politics. Yet another example of the fundamental ignorance of philosophical concerns in public discourse: debate is mistaken for a game wherein moves are made towards some assigned rather than natural end as opposed to a dialectic wherein natural consequence alone is sought.

    In short you're all faggots.

    Jesus Christ who gives a fuck.
  7. #27
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 Jesus Christ who gives a fuck.

    ?
  8. #28
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Lanny "suicide rate" is not the same thing as "attempted suicide rate" braj

    Suicide Rate (Failures Included)
  9. #29
    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    Originally posted by Lanny "suicide rate" is not the same thing as "attempted suicide rate" braj

    Fair point, but that doesn't discredit my argument in any way. 40% of trannies make a choice to die at some point in their lives
  10. #30
    You know somebody is a faggot when they try to talk like a philosophy 101 book to defend trannies out of the blue.
  11. #31
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Daily Fair point, but that doesn't discredit my argument in any way. 40% of trannies make a choice to die at some point in their lives

    True, transgendered people do have a high rate of attempted suicide and mental illness but it seems like you're suggesting there's a causal relationship there which those facts don't support.

    Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 You know somebody is a faggot when they try to talk like a philosophy 101 book to defend trannies out of the blue.

    you're pretending to be retarded again

    Post last edited by Lanny at 2017-11-13T02:11:00.995743+00:00
  12. #32
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Lanny True, transgendered people do have a high rate of attempted suicide and mental illness but it seems like you're suggesting there's a casual relationship there which those facts don't support


    causal?

    Transsexualism is gender dysphoria by definition; all transsexuals are, by extension, afflicted with mental illness
  13. #33
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by aldra causal?

    Transsexualism is gender dysphoria by definition; all transsexuals are, by extension, afflicted with mental illness

    causal*

    Transsexualism is not gender dysphoria, per the DSM-5 (since you're concerned with definitions here, right?), it's possible for a person to be transgendered by common usage while not satisfying the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria.
  14. #34
    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    Originally posted by Lanny causal*

    Transsexualism is not gender dysphoria, per the DSM-5 (since you're concerned with definitions here, right?), it's possible for a person to be transgendered by common usage while not satisfying the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria.

    If they don't have gender dysphoria then they're pretending to dress up as the opposite sex because they find it hot. I don't see any other alternatives?
  15. #35
    HTS highlight reel
    Originally posted by Lanny It's ironic then that these camps find themselves generally opposite in modern politics.

    Do they though? Do they really?
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  16. #36
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Daily If they don't have gender dysphoria then they're pretending to dress up as the opposite sex because they find it hot. I don't see any other alternatives?

    You don't really "pretend" to dress up as anything. A person might dress in ways that aren't typical of members of their sex in their culture for a number of reasons, although thinking it's "hot" is one of them. They might also simply prefer it on an aesthetic non-sexual level. So what?
  17. #37
    I'm convinced Lanny doesn't actually talk to any people whatsoever.
  18. #38
    Originally posted by Lanny You don't really "pretend" to dress up as anything.

    Halloween.
  19. #39
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by HTS Do they though? Do they really?

    I think they typically do. I mean I don't have any hard data at hand but do you not think there's a definite rightward bent in self identified "transhumanist" communities?
  20. #40
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 Halloween.

    yeah but even then you actually dress up because if you pretend you're just a guy without a costume
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