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Louis C.K. accused of masturbating in front of women
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2017-11-11 at 4:13 AM UTCInteresting no one disagreed with this piece. Only with the author saying it.
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2017-11-11 at 4:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS To put this in perspective §m£ÂgØL, imagine you went out with the CEO of a publishing company for drinks after a long day of writing and spent an entire evening talking about writing and where you saw your career as a writer heading and they invited you back to their place for drinks and then asked if they could masturbate in front of you/to you.
How would you take that request? I mean I'm reasonably sure you'd say no, but just being asked would feel coercive as fuck neh?
i bet none of these women would be complaining right now if they had gone on to become famous comediennes out of it tho.
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2017-11-11 at 4:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS To put this in perspective §m£ÂgØL, imagine you went out with the CEO of a publishing company for drinks after a long day of writing and spent an entire evening talking about writing and where you saw your career as a writer heading and they invited you back to their place for drinks and then asked if they could masturbate in front of you/to you.
How would you take that request? I mean I'm reasonably sure you'd say no, but just being asked would feel coercive as fuck neh?
Except that isn't at all what happened. Not even close.
Also I'm the wrong guy to ask, because I would do it happily. -
2017-11-11 at 4:19 AM UTC
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2017-11-11 at 4:19 AM UTCOh but wait Louis CK doesn'tevendothat.
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2017-11-11 at 4:21 AM UTCI voted for Bernie but still it amazes me how goddamned SJW some people can be. I can't pin you between Trump and Jill Stein HTS. You're like some fucked up in-between that wants to ban trannies from the military but only because you enjoy abuse.
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2017-11-11 at 4:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 Except that isn't at all what happened. Not even close.
From Louis' perspective it wouldn't be, no. 2 women fronted a show for him, they all went out for drinks after, and he invited them back to his place and asked if he could jerk off to/in front of them.* Is it so hard to believe those women felt like the question I asked you made you feel initially when you said that wasn't even close to what happened?
* I read about this shit at some point in the last 48 hours and some of my details may be off but I remember a story to that effect. -
2017-11-11 at 4:32 AM UTCI believe they felt like it. I also believe they're victimizing themselves. Seriously, grow a set. I've had worse happen to me and I don't feel victimized in the slightest.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-11-11 at 4:35 AM UTC
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2017-11-11 at 4:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 I believe they felt like it. I also believe they're victimizing themselves. Seriously, grow a set. I've had worse happen to me and I don't feel victimized in the slightest.
I don't disagree with the self-victimization angle, but shit. I've had worse happen to me for sure, even sexually, and I don't give a shit. But if I acknowledge that shit happened and a large chunk of society tells me it was wrong, why isn't what that person did to me wrong? I may be okay with it, but I wouldn't be okay with the same thing happening to someone else because they aren't me.
Some people are okay with taking a punch or a full on beating, some people get folks charged with assault for spitting on them or slapping them. How is this any different than that? You'd be okay with it, someone else wouldn't. It's not about you, it's about protecting the people who aren't as strong as you. There are male victims of sexual assault talking out too (see: Spacey), so it's not even a "oh, won't someone please think of the women" argument. -
2017-11-11 at 4:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS I don't disagree with the self-victimization angle, but shit. I've had worse happen to me for sure, even sexually, and I don't give a shit. But if I acknowledge that shit happened and a large chunk of society tells me it was wrong, why isn't what that person did to me wrong? I may be okay with it, but I wouldn't be okay with the same thing happening to someone else because they aren't me.
Some people are okay with taking a punch or a full on beating, some people get folks charged with assault for spitting on them or slapping them. How is this any different than that? You'd be okay with it, someone else wouldn't. It's not about you, it's about protecting the people who aren't as strong as you. There are male victims of sexual assault talking out too (see: Spacey), so it's not even a "oh, won't someone please think of the women" argument.
ahh fuck em
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2017-11-11 at 4:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS I don't disagree with the self-victimization angle, but shit. I've had worse happen to me for sure, even sexually, and I don't give a shit. But if I acknowledge that shit happened and a large chunk of society tells me it was wrong, why isn't what that person did to me wrong? I may be okay with it, but I wouldn't be okay with the same thing happening to someone else because they aren't me.
Some people are okay with taking a punch or a full on beating, some people get folks charged with assault for spitting on them or slapping them. How is this any different than that? You'd be okay with it, someone else wouldn't. It's not about you, it's about protecting the people who aren't as strong as you. There are male victims of sexual assault talking out too (see: Spacey), so it's not even a "oh, won't someone please think of the women" argument.
I don't keep up with hollywood shit whatsoever. I don't know who Spacey is or what happened to him. I just liked the stories of Louis CK because they're so fitting.
So, society should say it's wrong, you say. You think he should be charged??? For what? You've either sexually assaulted someone or you haven't. The biggest mistake here in my eyes is that he had no discretion with who he did it to. He should've just hired some hookers. There are way worse things in life than seeing Louis CK naked, though there certainly are much better things. -
2017-11-11 at 4:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS I don't disagree with the self-victimization angle, but shit. I've had worse happen to me for sure, even sexually, and I don't give a shit. But if I acknowledge that shit happened and a large chunk of society tells me it was wrong, why isn't what that person did to me wrong? I may be okay with it, but I wouldn't be okay with the same thing happening to someone else because they aren't me.
Some people are okay with taking a punch or a full on beating, some people get folks charged with assault for spitting on them or slapping them. How is this any different than that? You'd be okay with it, someone else wouldn't. It's not about you, it's about protecting the people who aren't as strong as you. There are male victims of sexual assault talking out too (see: Spacey), so it's not even a "oh, won't someone please think of the women" argument.
Because consent. The argument here is that albeit crude and whatever negative adjective you wanna toss in there as a buzzword, if you do not stop him that is in a way, consent. Why would you watch if you didn't want to? I don't understand why people feel helpless in these situations. Why does someone else need to tell you its not ok? Shouldn't YOU know what YOU aren't ok with, and be able to act accordingly? Truly becoming a zero-accountability generation.
I'm actually not ok with that kind of shit where spitting on someone or slapping them can get you the same charge as full on cold clocking someone, and im pretttttyy sure there are different "grades" that prevent that. Like yeah you get assault for spitting on someone but it carries max a 50 dollar fine not a possible 1-3 year sentence. -
2017-11-11 at 4:56 AM UTCWhat? Do you seriously get sexual assault for spitting on someone?
Also yeah, the consent argument here is really weak. It's not even like it's sex where there is some imposing physical force right there. These women could have left at literally any time, but instead they chose to sit and watch all the way until Louis CK busted a big nut on his macadamia gut. Come the fuck on. What is that? Like, WHY? WHY DID THEY WAIT TILL IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE BUSTED A NUT TO LEAVE? -
2017-11-11 at 4:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 I don't keep up with hollywood shit whatsoever. I don't know who Spacey is or what happened to him. I just liked the stories of Louis CK because they're so fitting.
Kevin Spacey got accused of molesting some young men.
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 So, society should say it's wrong, you say. You think he should be charged??? For what? You've either sexually assaulted someone or you haven't. The biggest mistake here in my eyes is that he had no discretion with who he did it to. He should've just hired some hookers. There are way worse things in life than seeing Louis CK naked, though there certainly are much better things.
I don't think people should be charged with assault for spitting on people. I don't necessarily agree with the existing laws like that. I'm not saying he should be charged, I'm just saying that not charging him might actually be less consistent behavior than charging him - the reaction to this shit is totally in line with how society has behaved up until now, so why do you even fucking care? If he spat on one of these girls last night and he got charged with assault, you wouldn't be defending him as viscerally as you are over this.
PS, just pointing out some irony:These woman needed to be stronger and say no. All this feminism in the world but people still want to make women out to be these weak little shits.
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2017-11-11 at 5:04 AM UTC
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2017-11-11 at 5:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 What? Do you seriously get sexual assault for spitting on someone?
Also yeah, the consent argument here is really weak. It's not even like it's sex where there is some imposing physical force right there. These women could have left at literally any time, but instead they chose to sit and watch all the way until Louis CK busted a big nut on his macadamia gut. Come the fuck on. What is that? Like, WHY? WHY DID THEY WAIT TILL IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE BUSTED A NUT TO LEAVE?
Seriously, though. I haven't read a thing on this because lazy but has even one of these women made a claim about asking him to stop and him just fuckin chuggin on anyway? That's literally the only way I could be on their side. -
2017-11-11 at 5:06 AM UTCThere is no irony??? These women were weak if they were so petrified they just sat and watched. You know what I did when I've been groped? (by men and women) I fucking said no, just like the woman who said no did. If anybody continues past the no, THEN there's a problem, but clearly they didn't say no or the allegations here would be very different.
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2017-11-11 at 5:06 AM UTC
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2017-11-11 at 5:06 AM UTCHold on I'll go quote the juicy parts.
