2017-10-25 at 12:19 AM UTC
DocFoster
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Having been about a month since the attack, and with no notice yet known (or at least published) it seems all coverage gas dropped off the face of the earth. So, fellow niggers floating out in space on our little blue and green marble, I come to you once more to discuss theories, conspiracy or otherwise.
What happened is known, but why, and arguably how, is debated. What do you think? Was there more than one shooter, as has been claimed by people on the ground, or was it just "echoes". Why are there multiple timelines? Why was it 10+ minutes between the guard getting shot and the massacre starting (as some timelines have claimed).
What do YOU think. I'll start us off.
I have family in Reno, word around that town, and Vegas proper, was that there was Antifa literature in the room, and that this guy targeted the country music festival to hit right wingers, collateral damage be damned. Supposedly he was trying to kick start the revolution by hitting a predominantly right, white crowd. Was the Antifa literature there? Was this the case? Perhaps investigators saw that if his plan was to be released it'd be the fuse that starts a civil war, as the left and the right are at each other's throats , and both sides are looking for a reason to start fighting. So they dont let on that this was the case. No initial incident means inevitable conflict gets pushed further out. This would explain no motive coming out, and the ceasing of coverage. They want people to forget.
Or
The literature, the dead pasty, multiple shooters, this was a plan to get legislature changed and people at each other's throats. Only after it happened did they realize the implications, so these details were forgotten. Perhaps it was a hit on someone that went too well. Who knows, but it got pushed under the rug
These are just two theories I've heard. Add yours, What you've heard, or theories with similar consequences.
Serious discussion only please!
2017-10-25 at 12:21 AM UTC
i posted my theory based on factual observation long before the conspiracies started
2017-10-25 at 12:37 AM UTC
https://niggasin.space/thread/17343?p=16#post-270452
Originally posted by infinityshock
fuck this guy. hes fucking things up for gun owners.
based on evidence:
- country music fest
- nigger lover
- evidence of left-leaning tendencies
- 20-plus guns in a hotel room. (what the shit…twenty. thats not operational…thats making a statement)
my pre-preliminary analysis: this fuck is a self-hating nigger who is doing his part to get revenge on white people and gun owners.
and:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.htmlthis shit is symptomatic with the mentally ill leftists
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2017-10-25 at 12:59 AM UTC
He wasn't fucking linked to Antifa. That's such a cringeworthy claim.
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2017-10-25 at 1:02 AM UTC
aldra
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Yeah the 20 guns thing is what puzzles me the most about it. If you were going on a shooting rampage you'd want one gun and a lot of ammo for same considering you'd do the most damage with a gun you're familiar with - you might want to bring 2-3 more AT MOST to counter the possibility of jams or equipment failure, ideally chambered the same so that you don't have to bring different types of ammo. There's no good reason to bring your entire gun collection with you; if anything it makes it that much more likely you'll get caught before you even get the chance to shoot anything. Does anyone know whether all 20 were similar, or the same guns?
One theory I've seen backed by 'anonymous sources' is that Paddock was involved in a weapons trade on behalf of the FBI that went wrong - they'd meant to trade the weapons to a terrorist group so that they could later track them, but the buyers caught on, staged the shooting and used it as cover to escape. It's not unprecedented considering the multitude of arms-trade fuckups like Fast and Furious and pals, along with the fact that the FBI hasn't caught a single terrorist that they themselves haven't radicalised since 9/11, but there's little evidence to support it aside from the impractical number of weapons found and the little worthwhile information released by authorities, indicating some level of suppression.
Another is what IS was getting at - that Paddock was an anti-gun leftist trying his hardest to stage a major provocation against the right in an attempt to ignite class warfare. By attacking a typically-conservative event, using almost all of the scary-tactical parts states like California are trying to ban (or already have) along with bringing 20 guns he's created a very solid front that connects with many of the fears of both the left and the right:
- by attacking a largely-republican event, he demonstrates to the right that mass shootings can be politically-motivated and that there are factions in the left that literally want to see them dead, pushing people away from political centre
- by using parts such as pistol grips, a bump-fire stock and 'high-capacity' magazines, he vindicates the left's fear that they could be used in a mass shooting and gives them political stock to push for further creeping bans. The reason that they haven't typically been used in mass shootings previously is that they do not increase accuracy or lethality and in many cases reduce it (ie. bumpfire stocks make fire highly inaccurate, pistol grips make it easier to 'point and shoot' at close range but much more difficult to aim). The interesting point here is that he's specifically chosen parts that reduce effectiveness, meaning that the political effect of using them outweighed the loss in effectiveness in his mind.
- by bringing 20 guns he simultaneously attacks gun ownership and public security - by bringing such a ridiculous number, the 'conversation' often drifts to 'why he was allowed to have so many in the first place' rather than 'why he brought them' - in the minds of many having 20 guns at the site made him 20x more dangerous. It also calls into question how he was able to travel and literally fill a hotel room with firearms without anyone noticing, amplifying calls for more police, more invasive security measures, less protection for civil rights etc. Again, a very divisive left-right issue that pushes people away from centre.
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2017-10-25 at 1:22 AM UTC
I think he had the plan for decades. I think he started buying the guns with the plan in mind and he was smart enough to not say anything.
I think his fiancee was using him for his money, and I think he knew it. I think he knew about how people are generally selfish, self-centered, and fake, and I think he began to grow hateful of them.
He knew not to tell anyone. And then he finally decided it was time to kill.
Makes me wonder how many more are out there. Planning. Waiting. Ready.
2017-10-25 at 1:22 AM UTC
DocFoster
Tuskegee Airman
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The trade gone wrong is a new one I hadn't heard yet. I'm sure it was an attempt to ignite warfare between 2 or more groups. Why do you think the discussion stopped and no motive has been released
2017-10-25 at 1:39 AM UTC
He's just some crazy guy. History is full of mentally ill people committing high profile murders. Wait till you have some evidence instead of diving head first into speculation.
2017-10-25 at 1:42 AM UTC
aldra
JIDF Controlled Opposition
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好
He's just some crazy guy. History is full of mentally ill people committing high profile murders. Wait till you have some evidence instead of diving head first into speculation.
that's the problem though - there really should be more information available on the matter; the almost complete blackout just fuels speculation
as for antifa - I've seen a few photo comparisons linking him to leftist rallies and high-profile protesters, but they're questionable at best and mostly used as ammo by the 'make antifa and blm terrorist groups' crowd.
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2017-10-25 at 1:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by DocFoster
In what I've read supposedly many of the guns had been purchased that year, I'd heard that more guns were bought than were there. I wonder why it was just explosive components in his car as opposed to a proper bomb, which the news, What little cokmes out, reports it as now
the explosive data was (as usual) vague, incomplete, and underwhelming. the reports were too media-inflated with not enough factual info
- it was something called 'tannerite' which is basically a cheap-ish explosive that is easy to obtain and can be detonated by shooting it
- where was it? multiple news reports give different quantities in different places, and multiple specific locations in those places. (where the shit in the car was it found...the trunk...front seat...back seat...was it in his house...or wasnt any in his house)
- what configuration was the 'explosive.' as in...mixed and ready to explode, or still in its un-mixed components and inert. in one, single container or in multiple smaller quantities. what specific container was the explosive/components actually in.
fuck the media...theyre useless.
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