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  1. #41
    mashlehash victim of incest [my perspicuously dependant flavourlessness]
    Originally posted by HTS mine 2 O_O

    SHUT UP LITTLE WOMAN
  2. #42
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Gas fumes are heavier than air, so when you fill your tank, the fumes are actually invisibly pouring down from both sides of the opening, like water pouring out on both sides of the nozzle. So as long as you keep your cigarette up high, a couple of feet above where the gas is coming out, you should be fine.

    theyre not invisible. theyre quite visible...you can 'see' them via the light refraction. thats why they have those rubber/plastic covers on gas pump nozzles that have a virtually nil effect on containing the escaping vapors. i say nil because when i look the vapors escaping just go around the cover, even when its tightly against the fuel filling hole. idiots that designed the thing (commiefornians, obviously) didnt take into account the liquid filling the tank will forcibly displace the vapors no matter what happens...short of a means of hermetically sealing the tank and method of filling as well as increasing the fuel tank pressure to whatever capacity the fuel pump is capable of producing while increasing a fire/explosion/BLEVE risk.

    fucking stupid Bill Krozby-tier environmentalists...
  3. #43
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by Ajax

    Bill Krozby must have had a busy night last night. ive told him repeatedly to make his clients use lube.
  4. #44
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by infinityshock theyre not invisible. theyre quite visible…you can 'see' them via the light refraction. thats why they have those rubber/plastic covers on gas pump nozzles that have a virtually nil effect on containing the escaping vapors. i say nil because when i look the vapors escaping just go around the cover, even when its tightly against the fuel filling hole. idiots that designed the thing (commiefornians, obviously) didnt take into account the liquid filling the tank will forcibly displace the vapors no matter what happens…short of a means of hermetically sealing the tank and method of filling as well as increasing the fuel tank pressure to whatever capacity the fuel pump is capable of producing while increasing a fire/explosion/BLEVE risk.

    fucking stupid Bill Krozby-tier environmentalists…

    those rubber stoppers are meant to stop you from shoving the nozzle deeper than necessarily, not to contain gas fumes and airs displaced by the incoming gases.
  5. #45
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by benny vader those rubber stoppers are meant to stop you from shoving the nozzle deeper than necessarily, not to contain gas fumes and airs displaced by the incoming gases.

    Doubt it. If that was the case, they just would have made the nozzle shorter.
  6. #46
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by benny vader those rubber stoppers are meant to stop you from shoving the nozzle deeper than necessarily, not to contain gas fumes and airs displaced by the incoming gases.

    dont contradict factual statement with your own misinformed ignorance
  7. #47
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Then you could go boom.

    i think it would be more like 'whoosh' if anything.

    when i was about 19 or summing i had this dick of a mate that hanged round with us and i'd bought some cheap shitty motor to run about in. one time he thought it would be funny to stuff a rag in the opening of the fuel tank and light it. it went whoosh and blew itself out, lol.



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  8. #48
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by NARCassist i think it would be more like 'whoosh' if anything.

    when i was about 19 or summing i had this dick of a mate that hanged round with us and i'd bought some cheap shitty motor to run about in. one time he thought it would be funny to stuff a rag in the opening of the fuel tank and light it. it went whoosh and blew itself out, lol.
    im calling bullshit on that. i have personally witnessed the rag-in-fuel-tank thing dozens of dozens of times, perhaps in the hundreds...literally...with no exaggeration. each time what always, always, happened was either the cloth burned for x-period of time then went out, or if it was long enough to catch either actual liquid to act like a wick or vapors, it would burn brighter. that isnt including times that someone came and did something to make the fire stop burning. the longest i ever saw one burn was about an hour before going out on its own.

    there is a time i recall where gasoline and a 'woosh' was involved: it was way back in the 1800s on a pile of grass, wood, leaves, palm fronds, and assorted other burnable shit that was about 15 feet high and maybe 30 feet diameter. a five-gallon jug of gas was poured strait down the middle from the peak. i think 4 or 5 additional five-gallon jugs were poured along the base and splattered up the sides. everyone stood back about 50 feet while one person continuously tossed lit pieces of twigs into the pile in an attempt to light it. after about 20 tries where nothing other than the twig smoldering happened, apparently one of the twigs had just enough flame to ignite some of the gasoline and there was a giant 'FWOOOSHHH' that i could feel a pressure wave from 50-ish feet away.

    the pile was probably a quarter of a mile away from a house. later on the people in the house said the whole building shook and it sounded like the windows were going to blow in.
  9. #49
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Doubt it. If that was the case, they just would have made the nozzle shorter.

    but if its too short they might fall off and its going to be too late when the full-tank sensor kicks in.
  10. #50
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by infinityshock dont contradict factual statement with your own misinformed ignorance

    its not factual unless they have source attached to it.
  11. #51
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by infinityshock im calling bullshit on that. i have personally witnessed the rag-in-fuel-tank thing dozens of dozens of times, perhaps in the hundreds…literally…with no exaggeration. each time what always, always, happened was either the cloth burned for x-period of time then went out, or if it was long enough to catch either actual liquid to act like a wick or vapors, it would burn brighter. that isnt including times that someone came and did something to make the fire stop burning. the longest i ever saw one burn was about an hour before going out on its own.

    there is a time i recall where gasoline and a 'woosh' was involved: it was way back in the 1800s on a pile of grass, wood, leaves, palm fronds, and assorted other burnable shit that was about 15 feet high and maybe 30 feet diameter. a five-gallon jug of gas was poured strait down the middle from the peak. i think 4 or 5 additional five-gallon jugs were poured along the base and splattered up the sides. everyone stood back about 50 feet while one person continuously tossed lit pieces of twigs into the pile in an attempt to light it. after about 20 tries where nothing other than the twig smoldering happened, apparently one of the twigs had just enough flame to ignite some of the gasoline and there was a giant 'FWOOOSHHH' that i could feel a pressure wave from 50-ish feet away.

    the pile was probably a quarter of a mile away from a house. later on the people in the house said the whole building shook and it sounded like the windows were going to blow in.

    i didnt know gasolines were available in the 1800s.
  12. #52
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    "...gasoline burns in a limited range of its vapor phase and, coupled with its volatility, this makes leaks highly dangerous when sources of ignition are present. Gasoline has a lower explosive limit of 1.4% by volume and an upper explosive limit of 7.6%. If the concentration is below 1.4%, the air-gasoline mixture is too lean and does not ignite. If the concentration is above 7.6%, the mixture is too rich and also does not ignite. However, gasoline vapor rapidly mixes and spreads with air, making unconstrained gasoline quickly flammable."
  13. #53
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by -SpectraL "…gasoline burns in a limited range of its vapor phase and, coupled with its volatility, this makes leaks highly dangerous when sources of ignition are present. Gasoline has a lower explosive limit of 1.4% by volume and an upper explosive limit of 7.6%. If the concentration is below 1.4%, the air-gasoline mixture is too lean and does not ignite. If the concentration is above 7.6%, the mixture is too rich and also does not ignite. However, gasoline vapor rapidly mixes and spreads with air, making unconstrained gasoline quickly flammable."

    also smouldering cigarettes are not hot enough to ignite gas fumes.

    i always clean carbs with a cigarette in my mouth.
  14. #54
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by benny vader also smouldering cigarettes are not hot enough to ignite gas fumes.

    I would argue that. If the vapor is in just the right phase, it will ignite for sure.
  15. #55
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by benny vader its not factual unless they have source attached to it.

    my source was right there in front of your astigmatic face. i said it.
  16. #56
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by benny vader i didnt know gasolines were available in the 1800s.

    it might have been the 1700s. one loses track of time at my age.
  17. #57
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    "Gasoline was initially discarded. Edwin Drake dug the first oil well in Pennsylvania in 1859 and distilled the oil to produce kerosene for lighting. Although other petroleum products, including gasoline, were also produced in the distillation process, Drake had no use for the gasoline and other products, so he discarded them. It wasn't until 1892, with the invention of the automobile, that gasoline was recognized as a valuable fuel. By 1920, 9 million vehicles powered by gasoline were on the road, and service stations selling gasoline were opening around the country. Today, gasoline is the fuel for nearly all light-duty vehicles in the United States."
  18. #58
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by -SpectraL I would argue that. If the vapor is in just the right phase, it will ignite for sure.

    no, still not hot enough. its only when you smoke it and it turn orangey-white that will ignite the fumes.
  19. #59
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by infinityshock my source was right there in front of your astigmatic face. i said it.
    Originally posted by infinityshock it might have been the 1700s. one loses track of time at my age.

    i think you see why i'd have a problem with that ...
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