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  1. #21
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    and i tell you what, the fucking shit those church dudes must be telling you guys just to keep you coming and putting money in that fucking pot is fucking poisonous.




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  2. #22
    RisiR † 29 Autism
    Come for the lies, stay for the cleric cock.
  3. #23
    Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
    I think the real question is does collective atheism (regardless of its epistemological validity) inevitably lead a population into a certain type of cultural and political consciousness? Atheism is one of the main precursors (if not the main precursor) to some of the most cancerous and pernicious ideologies (communism, postmodernism, feminism, PC culture, SJWism, etc). Good job on making this site work decently on mobile btw Lanny
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  4. #24
    denying it doesn't mean your life isn't empty and meaningless too
  5. #25
    Originally posted by Daily I think the real question is does collective atheism (regardless of its epistemological validity) inevitably lead a population into a certain type of cultural and political consciousness? Atheism is one of the main precursors (if not the main precursor) to some of the most cancerous and pernicious ideologies (communism, postmodernism, feminism, PC culture, SJWism, etc). Good job on making this site work decently on mobile btw Lanny

    Obviously, religion is part of culture. So if you change a culture's religion you change their culture too, by definition. I think what you are really trying to ask is if an atheistic society would be inherently immoral, and the answer is no. Do you know anyone who is an atheist? Are they all terrible people? Well there's your answer.
  6. #26
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    "Atheism is a precursor to SJWism."

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  7. #27
    Originally posted by Daily I think the real question is does collective atheism (regardless of its epistemological validity) inevitably lead a population into a certain type of cultural and political consciousness? Atheism is one of the main precursors (if not the main precursor) to some of the most cancerous and pernicious ideologies (communism, postmodernism, feminism, PC culture, SJWism, etc). Good job on making this site work decently on mobile btw Lanny

    Dude, Christianity was fairly cancerous in its time. Look at how weird Christians were. All the ideologies you pointed out just follow on from the original cancer of Christianity (as well being also jedi inventions) due to everyone being so immersed in a jedi moral framework that we don't even realise that it is there.

    The exact same people who gave us original sin gave us white guilt.

    Chinese and former Soviet atheists laugh at us for buying into this bullshit.
  8. #28
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    the belief, and to believe in disbelief is itself ....

    a belief.

    i believe the best belief is to not believe in any belief.
  9. #29
    bling bling Dark Matter
    Originally posted by Esplender fact that their lives and existence are entirely devoid of any meaning and that they have absolutely no morals or principles whatsoever?

    as u can see its written as statement undenible facts
  10. #30
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by benny vader the belief, and to believe in disbelief is itself ….

    a belief.

    i believe the best belief is to not believe in any belief.

    I disbelieve.
  11. #31
    Originally posted by jedi.Goldstein Dude, Christianity was fairly cancerous in its time. Look at how weird Christians were. All the ideologies you pointed out just follow on from the original cancer of Christianity (as well being also jedi inventions) due to everyone being so immersed in a jedi moral framework that we don't even realise that it is there.

    The exact same people who gave us original sin gave us white guilt.

    Chinese and former Soviet atheists laugh at us for buying into this bullshit.

    Literally millions of people have died because of Christian beliefs. Of course, no Christians say "oh the crusades were un-christian like" or "oh burning witches isn't really our thing" but it was their thing for hundreds of years. What will the Christians in another 300 years say about 'Christian beliefs' today?

    The only ones who really appear to be consistent are the muslims.
  12. #32
    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by Esplender How do atheists deal with the fact that their lives and existence are entirely devoid of any meaning and that they have absolutely no morals or principles whatsoever?

    Shit's bananas.

    You can have morals, principles, and even ethics without believing in myths that can't be proven by anyone.

    Not all morals, principles, or ethics are desirable in my thinking. In many belief systems today and throughout history have practiced principles that I view as abhorrent, morals that I view as decadent, and ethics which no decent man would value.

    In short the belief in divinity has been the cause of more suffer than a lack of belief. Believers seek to convert others to their thoughts often by force. Nonbelievers don't give two shits what you want to believe.
  13. #33
    Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 Literally millions of people have died because of Christian beliefs. Of course, no Christians say "oh the crusades were un-christian like" or "oh burning witches isn't really our thing" but it was their thing for hundreds of years. What will the Christians in another 300 years say about 'Christian beliefs' today?

    The only ones who really appear to be consistent are the muslims.

    I could deconstruct your post, but your criticism of Christianity comes across as being like a bratty kid complaining about his Mommy and Daddy. Fuck off and go be Muslim.
  14. #34
    It's not a criticism. It's a fact. Christians (as in the organized religion) went on crusades to convert and kill people of other religions. It was so ingrained in people that this was a holy war, that participation in the crusades was considered penitential. Pope Julius the second fought personally in the crusades.

    So again, millions of people have died under the hand of the Christian church. If you want to support your point that the Christian church waging war on non-Christians was actually done by jedis, then fucking do it. But right now you just sound like a retarded conspiracy theorist.
  15. #35
    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 It's not a criticism. It's a fact. Christians (as in the organized religion) went on crusades to convert and kill people of other religions. It was so ingrained in people that this was a holy war, that participation in the crusades was considered penitential. Pope Julius the second fought personally in the crusades.

    So again, millions of people have died under the hand of the Christian church. If you want to support your point that the Christian church waging war on non-Christians was actually done by jedis, then fucking do it. But right now you just sound like a retarded conspiracy theorist.

    You are clueless about the crusades.


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  16. #36
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Sectarianism in Europe[edit]

    See also: The Troubles and Balkanization

    Since the 12th century there has been sectarian conflict of varying intensity in Ireland. This religious sectarianism is connected to a degree with nationalism. This has been particularly intense in Northern Ireland since the early 17th century plantation of Ulster under James I. Sectarian tensions can be found in other regions of the British Isles to this day, including Scotland (with some fans of football clubs such as Celtic and Rangers indulging in sectarian chants) (see: Sectarianism in Glasgow), Liverpool, Birmingham and elsewhere.

    Historically, some Catholic countries once persecuted Protestants as heretics. For example, the substantial Protestant population of France (the Huguenots) was expelled from the kingdom in the 1680s following the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. In Spain, the Inquisition sought to root out crypto-jedis but also crypto-Muslims (moriscos); elsewhere the Papal Inquisition held similar goals.

    In most places where Protestantism is the majority or "official" religion, there have been examples of Catholics being persecuted.[citation needed] In countries where the Reformation was successful, this often lay in the perception that Catholics retained allegiance to a 'foreign' power (the Papacy), causing them to be regarded with suspicion. Sometimes this mistrust manifested itself in Catholics being subjected to restrictions and discrimination, which itself led to further conflict. For example, before Catholic Emancipation was introduced with the Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829, Catholics were forbidden from voting, becoming MP's or buying land in Ireland.

    Ireland was deeply scarred by religious sectarianism following the Protestant Reformation as tensions between the native Catholic Irish and Protestant settlers from Britain led to massacres and attempts at ethnic cleaning by both sides during the Irish Rebellion of 1641, Cromwellian conquest of Ireland, Irish Rebellion of 1798 and the Home Rule Crisis of 1912. The invasion of Ireland by English parliamentarian forces under Oliver Cromwell in 1659 was notoriously brutal and witnessed the widespread ethnic cleansing of the native Irish. The failure of the Rebellion of 1798, which sought to unite Protestants and Catholics for an independent Ireland, helped cause more sectarian violence in the island. The British response to the rebellion, which included the public executions of dozens of suspected rebels in Dunlavin and Carnew, along with other violence perpetrated by both the British and the rebels, helped end the hope that Protestants and Catholics could work together for Ireland.

    After the Partition of Ireland, Northern Ireland witnessed decades of intensified conflict, tension, and sporadic violence between the dominant Protestant majority and the Catholic minority, which in 1969 finally erupted into 25 years of violence known as “The Troubles” between Irish Republicans who favoured a United Ireland and the British state along with Ulster Loyalists who wished to remain a part of the United Kingdom. The conflict was primarily fought over the existence of the Northern Irish state rather than religion, though sectarian relations within Northern Ireland fueled the conflict. However, religion is commonly used as a marker to differentiate the two sides of the community. The Catholic minority primarily favoured the nationalist goal of unity with the Republic of Ireland while the Protestant majority favoured Northern Ireland continuing the union with Great Britain.


    The sack of Magdeburg by Catholic army in 1631. Of the 30,000 Protestant citizens, only 5,000 survived.
    Northern Ireland has introduced a Private Day of Reflection,[3] since 2007, to mark the transition to a post-[sectarian] conflict society, an initiative of the cross-community Healing through Remembering[4] organisation and research project.

    The civil wars in the Balkans which followed the breakup of Yugoslavia in the 1990s have been heavily tinged with sectarianism. Croats and Slovenes have traditionally been Catholic, Serbs and Macedonians Eastern Orthodox, and Bosniaks and most Albanians Muslim. Religious affiliation served as a marker of group identity in this conflict, despite relatively low rates of religious practice and belief among these various groups after decades of communism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarianism#Europe



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  17. #37
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by mmQ I disbelieve.

    you can only disbelieve something you believe not to exist.

    your belief in not believing that thing exists is still a belief that you believe.
  18. #38
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by benny vader you can only disbelieve something you believe not to exist.

    your belief in not believing that thing exists is still a belief that you believe.

    I believe I'm free to disbelieve.
  19. #39
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by mmQ I believe I'm free to disbelieve.

    i believe i'm fine with your belief.
  20. #40
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker You are clueless about the crusades.



    So basically "Islam is worse"

    That's your defense? Fucking LOL. Nobody is even talking about Islam. I simply said that Islam was CONSISTENT, and they are. Jihad still goin' strong. But 'Christian' values have changed considerably.
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