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Anyone here know much about security cameras?
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2017-09-12 at 10:48 PM UTCMy friends trying to buy one for his house and he's even more ignorant on the subject than me. But I've watched videos on youtube and tried to find out details online but its all pretty vague, but I was wondering like how many feet with both an optical and a digital can you zone in and see a license plate clearly?
I'm sure someone here has some experience with that. When I worked downtown I would look at the security cameras and they were pretty shitty and for the most part the cars that were around the store were close considering it was downtown so I know that 30 feet away you can clearly see most plates. -
2017-09-12 at 11:15 PM UTCDoes he want this just for general security?
I installed a cheap five camera system on my home and the picture quality varies.
If they are install outside expect a few camera failures the cheap ones are not all that weather tight I've replaced three so far and the system is only three years old.
My next system is going too kick ass,I'm just waiting for the hard drive in current setup to shit the bed. -
2017-09-13 at 1:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by AngryOnion Does he want this just for general security?
I installed a cheap five camera system on my home and the picture quality varies.
If they are install outside expect a few camera failures the cheap ones are not all that weather tight I've replaced three so far and the system is only three years old.
My next system is going too kick ass,I'm just waiting for the hard drive in current setup to shit the bed.
one that can read license plates from at least 100 feet away -
2017-09-13 at 1:22 AM UTCIt's the niggers again, isn't it?
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2017-09-13 at 2:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby My friends trying to buy one for his house and he's even more ignorant on the subject than me. But I've watched videos on youtube and tried to find out details online but its all pretty vague, but I was wondering like how many feet with both an optical and a digital can you zone in and see a license plate clearly?
I'm sure someone here has some experience with that. When I worked downtown I would look at the security cameras and they were pretty shitty and for the most part the cars that were around the store were close considering it was downtown so I know that 30 feet away you can clearly see most plates.
simple: you get what you pay for -
2017-09-13 at 2:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by AngryOnion Does he want this just for general security?
I installed a cheap five camera system on my home and the picture quality varies.
If they are install outside expect a few camera failures the cheap ones are not all that weather tight I've replaced three so far and the system is only three years old.
My next system is going too kick ass,I'm just waiting for the hard drive in current setup to shit the bed.
walmart specials, eh? yea...they do that -
2017-09-13 at 2:38 AM UTC
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2017-09-13 at 2:49 AM UTC
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2017-09-13 at 2:54 AM UTCZmodo KDB8-BARBZ8ZN-500GB 8-Channel H.264 DVR with 500GB HDD and 8 CMOS 480TVL 65-Feet IR Outdoor Security Camera
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2017-09-13 at 2:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby I already did dumbshit, don't waste your time posting anymore in my thread if you can't help you fuck head.
i gave you all the info you need to know: you get what you pay for. if you buy something from walmart or a regular retail store...even best buy...youre going to get either shit or mediocrity.
you want something professional, with the resolution that isnt shit, and decent night vision, you need to order it from a specialty supplier. also...if you want night vision beyond a few dozen yards skip the build-in IR LEDs and buy a dedicated IR spotlight. which will cost more than the camera.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-09-13 at 3:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock i gave you all the info you need to know: you get what you pay for. if you buy something from walmart or a regular retail store…even best buy…youre going to get either shit or mediocrity.
you want something professional, with the resolution that isnt shit, and decent night vision, you need to order it from a specialty supplier. also…if you want night vision beyond a few dozen yards skip the build-in IR LEDs and buy a dedicated IR spotlight. which will cost more than the camera.
saying you get what you pay for isn't giving any info. -
2017-09-13 at 3:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby My friends trying to buy one for his house and he's even more ignorant on the subject than me. But I've watched videos on youtube and tried to find out details online but its all pretty vague, but I was wondering like how many feet with both an optical and a digital can you zone in and see a license plate clearly?
I'm sure someone here has some experience with that. When I worked downtown I would look at the security cameras and they were pretty shitty and for the most part the cars that were around the store were close considering it was downtown so I know that 30 feet away you can clearly see most plates.
I purposly bought cheap ones and made them look jimmy rigged outside while having a better system in my garage.
but then I found out that most of these cheap cameras use the same boards which have a remote pause and delete. I saw how you fool the camera.. you stop until motion goes off then you can delete it out.. but these people I saw somehow did multy pass erases on them.
Also, if you plug them into an electrical outlet.. someone can use a device (like an outlet router type) to remotely switch shit off.
these newer battery powered Im sure have remote ? but you can defeat that hidden function by creating a housing to stop it from being hacked. the wireless doorbell cameras are really popular.. and you can be thousands of miles away and talk to people at your door or just watch them. look that up, Bill Krozby. -
2017-09-13 at 3:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 I purposly bought cheap ones and made them look jimmy rigged outside while having a better system in my garage.
but then I found out that most of these cheap cameras use the same boards which have a remote pause and delete. I saw how you fool the camera.. you stop until motion goes off then you can delete it out.. but these people I saw somehow did multy pass erases on them.
Also, if you plug them into an electrical outlet.. someone can use a device (like an outlet router type) to remotely switch shit off.
these newer battery powered Im sure have remote ? but you can defeat that hidden function by creating a housing to stop it from being hacked. the wireless doorbell cameras are really popular.. and you can be thousands of miles away and talk to people at your door or just watch them. look that up, Bill Krozby.
kool thanks for the help. -
2017-09-13 at 3:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock if you want night vision beyond a few dozen yards skip the build-in IR LEDs and buy a dedicated IR spotlight. which will cost more than the camera.
You should be able to get a panel of high-output IR LEDs for a lot cheaper (run off a 12vdc battery bank or similar), though there's a point you'll have to start shelling out for professional equipment and there's not much to be done about it
A lot of the consumer electronics stores here sell midrange IP security camera packages, SWANN and similar brands - they're popular enough that you should be able to find demo videos on YouTube showing how good the picture quality/range is -
2017-09-13 at 3:12 AM UTCI saw them at Big 5 (if they still exist) for 50 bucks.
buy one that has black RF lights.. so you can't see them light up like the red or white light LED.
unless you're looking at it with an IR enhancement like a camera. you can see it with that.
But I agree. maybe use mirrors to reflect/deflect more lighting off of it instead of buying more? -
2017-09-13 at 3:16 AM UTCexample of the kind of panel I was talking about - looks like it uses high output 3-5w starfire LEDs
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2017-09-13 at 3:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra You should be able to get a panel of high-output IR LEDs for a lot cheaper (run off a 12vdc battery bank or similar), though there's a point you'll have to start shelling out for professional equipment and there's not much to be done about it
A lot of the consumer electronics stores here sell midrange IP security camera packages, SWANN and similar brands - they're popular enough that you should be able to find demo videos on YouTube showing how good the picture quality/range is
if its just for looking at the yard or street...theyll do fine.
if its for identifying facial features or specific details of a car...the higher resolution, $200-plus cameras are whats needed. -
2017-09-13 at 3:27 AM UTCIn some states.. even with a very detailed video or photo.. it can't be used or is difficult to use in court Im told. because people look so different on IR enhancement. it could just be your "Doppelgänger"
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2017-09-13 at 3:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock if its for identifying facial features or specific details of a car…the higher resolution, $200-plus cameras are whats needed.
Yeah, I don't figure that anyone here has any specific experience in that area given the prohibitive cost though. If that's not good enough, specialist forums or an actual security/CCTV store are his best bet
