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2017-08-08 at 8:59 AM UTCImn stoned retarded rn
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2017-08-08 at 9:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon Literally nobody will read this, including me.
I didn't see that post before it was edited. You quoting is the exclusive reason I read it.
Originally posted by Malice Lanny, you don't know this, but sometime last month I decided to avoid trying to ask you for your thoughts on various matters, seeing you as the only person here who might show even initial signs of being deserving of something more.
You're too young and undeveloped, a jackass in multiple critical ways.
I certainly won't deny I'm a jackass and I wouldn't know where to start in making a case for my own "development" but I was actually trying to point out something helpful there, because you genuinely don't seem to realize it. No socialized human would ever write "I developed a fuller understanding, a generally complete understanding, drawing from prior knowledge and thoughts, creating the syntheses, connections, and novel answers" except in jest. When you're writing you're doing so to communicate, that's what writing is, communicating with other humans. There is no possible effect you could want to produce in a reader that will be achieved by producing that sentence.
Really buddy, I have all the time in the world for bedroom philosophy, call it a hobby, but that's not what you were doing. You were telling us about how damn hard you were thinking, a linguistic spreading of your feathers, but very poorly. There are techniques in rhetoric where you might want to establish your intelligence to present a more compelling case but saying "I'm really smart and I can synthesize so much knowledge!" is not one of them. I'm not buying the "just jotting down my thoughts" line because this is a web forum, not a journal, and I can't imagine how that description of how intensely you were thinking about the philosopher you've been telling us about for months is productive even in the dubious context of recording one's thoughts.
Like I really think you just didn't understand how that post was going to read. That's supposed to be a symptom of autism? Lack of understanding of how what you say or do is going to be taken. I actually think you could improve your communication skills by taking feedback on how things like that are counterproductive on every level.Alright, you have a minor in philosophy. To be perfectly honest, and of course this is regardless of the impression I evoke, which is perfectly reasonable, you do have a good grasp of the key figures in existentialism, the general technical knowledge, essentially being the kind of student that has read exactly what he should. But I have genuinely never, not once, seen you post an original thought, posit anything novel. You literally don't even try. All you're able to do is debate based on the key books you've read with people who are generally clearly incorrect/mistaken, with absolutely no creativity.
Philosophy is a field that's several thousand years old, I studied it part time for fun for a few years and then read a couple of books after graduating. I don't feel particularly troubled by the fact that I think I have a lot more to learn than to tell. Also I did make an argument for the logical inconsistency of "indeterminism" as uncaused outcomes I've never seen presented, but I'm nearly certain someone's made it before.
I hate to break it to you Malice, but I haven't seen you present anything that's both coherent and novel. Do you really think secular buddhism or your barnyard negative utilitarianism is new?You know, you really are like your hero Rust in many ways, which is a terrible thing. Do you intend to debate people on the kind of garbage Figure-8 repeatedly posted and the religious for the rest of your life, to feel superior to the lowest quality people, engage in perpetual intellectual masturbation, have an excuse to be condescending, to hate and belittle others, attempt to intellectually bully them and build an image of yourself as a superior being, yet unrecognized due to the flaws and injustices of humanity and the world they've created, their systems?
When I see a position I disagree with on internet discussion forums I try to present the best argument against it that I can. I did like Rust, I take the comparison as a complement, he took the time to argue with me and made me look like an idiot with some regularity. It's a mode by which I've learned a lot of things I'm glad to know now. I'd like to say I think I'm doing the world a favor by bringing light to the dark ignorant corners of the internet, that would feel good, but I don't really believe it. Mostly it's just fun to argue.Here's a small challenge. Dwell on the above, a secular conception of the Buddhist concept of what was meant by 'reincarnation'/'rebirth', or, alternatively, 'karma', and jot down your thoughts. It can be a rough stream of consciousness as long as others are able to follow your train of thought, your insights.
It doesn't matter if you don't feel you have enough of an understanding of Buddhism, you don't need one if you understand the general pattern of a secular/rational interpretation. Simply reading a wikipedia entry or good article could be enough. If you fear it may lead you astray, just link to what you're basing your thoughts on and I'll give my opinion on whether your errors were reasonable, stemmed from the sources.
Don't start bitching and giving me excuses, this should even take long, you lazy alcoholic piece of shit. What does getting drunk regularly ever accomplish that's eternal? I swear, you have exactly the exact general personality of an archetypal introverted San Francisco programmer. Almost no genuine or noteworthy creativity outside of coding.
What do you want me to say? It's Parfit without an argument and some mumbo-jumbo about "beleive this and you'll be happy". The buddhist "phenomenology", for lack of a better term, is interesting, granted. But in every presentation I've seen you start out with some actual insight into subjective experience, a taxonomy, and then "yeah but that's not real". You poke, naturally, because that's stupid, how is something you just described and I have direct access to every second not real? "Oh well by 'not real' what's actually meant is 'impermanent'" and then you're like "ok well even like Cartesian dualists don't think consciousness is immutable" and then their eyes kinda glaze over when you try and explain the difference between essential and nonessential properties and they mumble something about attachment or suffering or whatever, bonus points of some pseudo-enlightened anti-intellectualism, and you're like fuck it, why even try?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-08-08 at 9:12 AM UTCi think mickey might be talking about you hydro
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2017-08-08 at 9:15 AM UTC
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2017-08-08 at 9:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny I didn't see that post before it was edited. You quoting is the exclusive reason I read it.
I certainly won't deny I'm a jackass and I wouldn't know where to start in making a case for my own "development" but I was actually trying to point out something helpful there, because you genuinely don't seem to realize it. No socialized human would ever write "I developed a fuller understanding, a generally complete understanding, drawing from prior knowledge and thoughts, creating the syntheses, connections, and novel answers" except in jest. When you're writing you're doing so to communicate, that's what writing is, communicating with other humans. There is no possible effect you could want to produce in a reader that will be achieved by producing that sentence.
Really buddy, I have all the time in the world for bedroom philosophy, call it a hobby, but that's not what you were doing. You were telling us about how damn hard you were thinking, a linguistic spreading of your feathers, but very poorly. There are techniques in rhetoric where you might want to establish your intelligence to present a more compelling case but saying "I'm really smart and I can synthesize so much knowledge!" is not one of them. I'm not buying the "just jotting down my thoughts" line because this is a web forum, not a journal, and I can't imagine how that description of how intensely you were thinking about the philosopher you've been telling us about for months is productive even in the dubious context of recording one's thoughts.
Like I really think you just didn't understand how that post was going to read. That's supposed to be a symptom of autism? Lack of understanding of how what you say or do is going to be taken. I actually think you could improve your communication skills by taking feedback on how things like that are counterproductive on every level.
Philosophy is a field that's several thousand years old, I studied it part time for fun for a few years and then read a couple of books after graduating. I don't feel particularly troubled by the fact that I think I have a lot more to learn than to tell. Also I did make an argument for the logical inconsistency of "indeterminism" as uncaused outcomes I've never seen presented, but I'm nearly certain someone's made it before.
I hate to break it to you Malice, but I haven't seen you present anything that's both coherent and novel. Do you really think secular buddhism or your barnyard negative utilitarianism is new?
When I see a position I disagree with on internet discussion forums I try to present the best argument against it that I can. I did like Rust, I take the comparison as a complement, he took the time to argue with me and made me look like an idiot with some regularity. It's a mode by which I've learned a lot of things I'm glad to know now. I'd like to say I think I'm doing the world a favor by bringing light to the dark ignorant corners of the internet, that would feel good, but I don't really believe it. Mostly it's just fun to argue.
What do you want me to say? It's Parfit without an argument and some mumbo-jumbo about "beleive this and you'll be happy". The buddhist "phenomenology", for lack of a better term, is interesting, granted. But in every presentation I've seen you start out with some actual insight into subjective experience, a taxonomy, and then "yeah but that's not real". You poke, naturally, because that's stupid, how is something you just described and I have direct access to every second not real? "Oh well by 'not real' what's actually meant is 'impermanent'" and then you're like "ok well even like Cartesian dualists don't think consciousness is immutable" and then their eyes kinda glaze over when you try and explain the difference between essential and nonessential properties and they mumble something about attachment or suffering or whatever, bonus points of some pseudo-enlightened anti-intellectualism, and you're like fuck it, why even try?
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2017-08-08 at 9:24 AM UTCHard as a rock!
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2017-08-08 at 9:25 AM UTCFlavored Falcon. Wanna TC again?
By the way, at everyone faggots,Falco Candy cams when ur sleeping. Losers. -
2017-08-08 at 9:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone do it, faggot. It'd be a mercy killing and do PoC a huge favor in life.
Hey, seriously, if you ever do it, are you planning to take out a life insurance policy? I don't know what the law is in Florida, but I was surprised to learn that in CA it actually does pay out even if you do it.
Aw, fuck, I suppose if you were you would leave it in a trust for your son. I wanted it so I could attempt to overcome my severe autism and life situation and get dual PhD's in philosophy and neuroscience from a top university.
Nardil began an incredible change in me. Sublingual NSI-189 freebase before high intensity interval training then took it to the next level. I'm actually drastically changed, getting so many things done, working on multiple projects, breakthrough ideas for my long-term plans, already have a lot of writing saved, bought multiple things I needed to improve my life
Oh, speaking of that, you have to try kava extract for anxiety, trust me. It's cheap: https://niggasin.space/post/232106
and I'm so fucking poor for the bay area, along with needed a lot of medication and therapy I have to pay out of pocket for. Countless things. I finally know what I want to do in life, dedicate at least a decade to, which is perfectly in line with my strengths, passions, and beliefs. It's perfect, it just suddenly came to me while thinking about the views I developed.
This is all very long term, btw. As in, it could take 10 years before I'm at the point. Being completely realistic. There's no guarantee it will happen, of course, these certainly do appear to be lofty goals.
Essentially analogous to my interpretation of the Buddhist system. No-self, impermanence, desire, suffering. Suffering will be the foundation of my system.
A reformulation of my interpretation of Buddha's original teachings, essentially resurrecting the original an all its implications, an extensive elucidation and argumentation. I plan to read a series of translations of the Pali Canon/Tripitaka that's literally 9,000 pages long (I did the math) for this.
Then a series of papers on autism. The neurology and how all symptoms/behaviors/traits can be clearly explained, the recurring pattern of synergistic/augmentative aspects. Possibly books.
Finally a magnus opus in philosophy, All of Life is Suffering, similar in general style to The World as Will and Representation. I intend to take on life itself (No, Lanny, my argument is not life is bad/sad so no one should have kids and we should all commit suicide, you goddamn idiot. Try actually reading Better Never to Have Been before embarrassing yourself by spouting common idiotic misinterpretations/presumptions like this.).
Suffering. The disorder that causes the most suffering, adjusted for prevalence, the philosophy that primarily addresses suffering. This is the most altruistic thing i could do, and it perfectly aligns.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-08-08 at 9:44 AM UTCLanny, I do treat this place essentially as a journal a large percentage of the time, you stupid motherfucker. Do you honestly believe I'm so oblivious that I expect anyone to read my enormous rants? There are other reasons for it.
Any serious writing I produce, which often stems from rapidly spewing out my thoughts in an unedited stream of thought style, naturally typing near my top speed, goes into various files I have (Auto-backed up online, of course.), not on here. Why would I post them here when there is literally 0% chance of anyone reading them, and my intention, in that scenario, would not be to simply use this place as a journal?
God I hate speaking to you. I refuse to ever engage with you again. Just ignore any writing like this.What do you want me to say? It's Parfit without an argument and some mumbo-jumbo about "beleive this and you'll be happy". The buddhist "phenomenology", for lack of a better term, is interesting, granted. But in every presentation I've seen you start out with some actual insight into subjective experience, a taxonomy, and then "yeah but that's not real". You poke, naturally, because that's stupid, how is something you just described and I have direct access to every second not real? "Oh well by 'not real' what's actually meant is 'impermanent'" and then you're like "ok well even like Cartesian dualists don't think consciousness is immutable" and then their eyes kinda glaze over when you try and explain the difference between essential and nonessential properties and they mumble something about attachment or suffering or whatever, bonus points of some pseudo-enlightened anti-intellectualism, and you're like fuck it, why even try?
Oh, Jesus fuck, you are such an idiotic unbelievably presumptuous pretentious condescending brat, you stupid fucking jackass.
Well, it's good you know Parfit. I have clearly fucking said I plan on a non-mystical reformulation. It's not a novel concept, but the insights I plan on espousing and elucidating, other aspects, are. It has absolutely nothing to do with what the vast majority of Buddhists believe, which I heavily criticize and is something that has never been part of my thoughts. As if I would believe in any of the things you listed, you mental fucking retard. God you can be so fucking stupid. Why do you think I don't even want to bother putting any real effort into communicating with you and just ignore you most of the time?
Well, you're bound to develop immensely, particularly until you reach 28, which is a general pattern for males. Hopefully you'll overcome your flaws and stop being a dumbass.
Years from now, if anything is ever published, or at the very least professors tell me they highly regard it (I'm going to keep a journal/record of the experience. I think I'll call it "Adventures in Autism".). Then we'll finally know, and it's really the only way to demonstrate it.
Post last edited by Malice at 2017-08-08T09:53:54.749441+00:00The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-08-08 at 9:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice God I hate speaking to you. I refuse to ever engage with you again. Just ignore any writing like this.
Don't start bitching and giving me excuses, this should even take long, you lazy alcoholic piece of shit. What does getting drunk regularly ever accomplish that's eternal? I swear, you have exactly the exact general personality of an archetypal introverted San Francisco programmer. Almost no genuine or noteworthy creativity outside of coding.
Lol, did you just try to post such a wall of text that I wouldn't respond and so could feel gratified in having your "challenge" unanswered? Motherfucker, no one textwalls me.Years from now, if anything is ever published, or at the very least professors tell me they highly regard it (I'm going to keep a journal/record of the experience. I think I'll call it "Adventures in Autism".). Then we'll finally know, and it's really the only way to demonstrate it.
Or you could try to enter an actual discussion of some concrete subject instead of calling me annoying whenever I respond to one of your posts as if you meant for it to be taken seriously. That is kinda what this place used to be about, but whatever man, if it makes you feel better to write off everything you post as low-effort and and not meant seriously that's up to you. -
2017-08-08 at 9:57 AM UTCOh, heh, I completely forgot about that challenge after I raged out.
Mo, fuck you. You probably missed it, but I intend to either leave or drastically reduce how much I post and how often I visit.
Goddamn it, I need to stop being goaded into going into wall of text mode.Or you could try to enter an actual discussion of some concrete subject instead of calling me annoying whenever I respond to one of your posts as if you meant for it to be taken seriously. That is kinda what this place used to be about, but whatever man, if it makes you feel better to write off everything you post as low-effort and and not meant seriously that's up to you.
Lanny, you see this? Do you honestly not realize how persistently condescending, presumptuous, insufferable etc. you are?
This is why no one likes you other than when you're posting something light-hearted and amusing. I swear if I ever see you in SF again I'm going to sprint at you and dive tackle you.
Post last edited by Malice at 2017-08-08T09:59:39.469780+00:00The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-08-08 at 9:57 AM UTC
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2017-08-08 at 9:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Oh, heh, I completely forgot about that challenge after I raged out.
Mo, fuck you. You probably missed it, but I intend to either leave or drastically reduce how much I post and how often I visit.
Goddamn it, I need to stop being goaded into going into wall of text mode.
Haha. You said literally 0. Literally zero. -
2017-08-08 at 10:02 AM UTCWell, at least I have my fidget dodecahedron, unlike some dual spinner faggots: https://www.amazon.com/Maxboost-Advanced-Children-Students-Dodecagon/dp/B071F39HNX/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1501718224&sr=8-7&keywords=fidget+dodecagon
OK, I can calm myself with the 'worry' stone side so I don't ruin my sleep from being enraged and fantasizing about torturing or murdering Lanny. -
2017-08-08 at 10:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Well, it's good you know Parfit. I have clearly fucking said I plan on a non-mystical reformulation. It's not a novel concept, but the insights I plan on espousing and elucidating, other aspects, are.
Well get to espousing and elucidating then, don't just tell me about it.
"oh hey, I have a piece of paper with a totally convincing logical argument for the existence of the christian god from first principles in my pocket, but I'm not going to show it to you. You're such a pretentious brat for not believing in god!"It has absolutely nothing to do with what the vast majority of Buddhists believe, which I heavily criticize and is something that has never been part of my thoughts. As if I would believe in any of the things you listed, you mental fucking retard. God you can be so fucking stupid. Why do you think I don't even want to bother putting any real effort into communicating with you and just ignore you most of the time?
I've pointed out multiple times, you rarely ever put forward an actual position to respond to. I was addressing to the article you linked since there was nothing of substance in your post, just you telling us about the subjective experience of how smart you think you are. Would you like to actually put forward an actual position on something beyond saying "secular buddhism is much more leet than n00b buddhism! Also schopenhauer's dick tastes great!" -
2017-08-08 at 10:05 AM UTCwe should crank up the pressure lads, i think we got malice real close to tarding out now.
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2017-08-08 at 10:07 AM UTCLLLLL LITERALLY ZERO
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2017-08-08 at 10:09 AM UTCDo you wanna build a wall?
Let's make a plan today
Don't want to see them anymore
We'll have a door, but lock it every day
It will cost a lot of money, but that's fine
We'll get Mexico to pay
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2017-08-08 at 10:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Hey, seriously, if you ever do it, are you planning to take out a life insurance policy? I don't know what the law is in Florida, but I was surprised to learn that in CA it actually does pay out even if you do it.
Aw, fuck, I suppose if you were you would leave it in a trust for your son. I wanted it so I could attempt to overcome my severe autism and life situation and get dual PhD's in philosophy and neuroscience from a top university.
Nardil began an incredible change in me. Sublingual NSI-189 freebase before high intensity interval training then took it to the next level. I'm actually drastically changed, getting so many things done, working on multiple projects, breakthrough ideas for my long-term plans, already have a lot of writing saved, bought multiple things I needed to improve my life
Oh, speaking of that, you have to try kava extract for anxiety, trust me. It's cheap: https://niggasin.space/post/232106
and I'm so fucking poor for the bay area, along with needed a lot of medication and therapy I have to pay out of pocket for. Countless things. I finally know what I want to do in life, dedicate at least a decade to, which is perfectly in line with my strengths, passions, and beliefs. It's perfect, it just suddenly came to me while thinking about the views I developed.
This is all very long term, btw. As in, it could take 10 years before I'm at the point. Being completely realistic. There's no guarantee it will happen, of course, these certainly do appear to be lofty goals.
Essentially analogous to my interpretation of the Buddhist system. No-self, impermanence, desire, suffering. Suffering will be the foundation of my system.
A reformulation of my interpretation of Buddha's original teachings, essentially resurrecting the original an all its implications, an extensive elucidation and argumentation. I plan to read a series of translations of the Pali Canon/Tripitaka that's literally 9,000 pages long (I did the math) for this.
Then a series of papers on autism. The neurology and how all symptoms/behaviors/traits can be clearly explained, the recurring pattern of synergistic/augmentative aspects. Possibly books.
Finally a magnus opus in philosophy, All of Life is Suffering, similar in general style to The World as Will and Representation. I intend to take on life itself (No, Lanny, my argument is not life is bad/sad so no one should have kids and we should all commit suicide, you goddamn idiot. Try actually reading Better Never to Have Been before embarrassing yourself by spouting common idiotic misinterpretations/presumptions like this.).
Suffering. The disorder that causes the most suffering, adjusted for prevalence, the philosophy that primarily addresses suffering. This is the most altruistic thing i could do, and it perfectly aligns.
Originally posted by Malice Lanny, I do treat this place essentially as a journal a large percentage of the time, you stupid motherfucker. Do you honestly believe I'm so oblivious that I expect anyone to read my enormous rants? There are other reasons for it.
Any serious writing I produce, which often stems from rapidly spewing out my thoughts in an unedited stream of thought style, naturally typing near my top speed, goes into various files I have (Auto-backed up online, of course.), not on here. Why would I post them here when there is literally 0% chance of anyone reading them, and my intention, in that scenario, would not be to simply use this place as a journal?
God I hate speaking to you. I refuse to ever engage with you again. Just ignore any writing like this.
Oh, Jesus fuck, you are such an idiotic unbelievably presumptuous pretentious condescending brat, you stupid fucking jackass.
Well, it's good you know Parfit. I have clearly fucking said I plan on a non-mystical reformulation. It's not a novel concept, but the insights I plan on espousing and elucidating, other aspects, are. It has absolutely nothing to do with what the vast majority of Buddhists believe, which I heavily criticize and is something that has never been part of my thoughts. As if I would believe in any of the things you listed, you mental fucking retard. God you can be so fucking stupid. Why do you think I don't even want to bother putting any real effort into communicating with you and just ignore you most of the time?
Well, you're bound to develop immensely, particularly until you reach 28, which is a general pattern for males. Hopefully you'll overcome your flaws and stop being a dumbass.
Years from now, if anything is ever published, or at the very least professors tell me they highly regard it (I'm going to keep a journal/record of the experience. I think I'll call it "Adventures in Autism".). Then we'll finally know, and it's really the only way to demonstrate it.
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