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2017-07-23 at 8:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Leftist.cognitive.biases.
"long term low functioning mental illness"Just to be clear, are stating that the current poverty in the south due to this? Because if so, you are the one that is postulating utterly moronic and parochial arguments. There are a vast array of other factors, mainly assortative social dynamics, brain drain, levels of urbanization, and the very high percentage of the population that is black: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(U.S._region)
Along with the profound and numerous detrimental effects this has on society, creating a low trust society that skews towards crude Republican statism: http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/
To a degree, lower levels of education, employment among african americans owe in part to being historically economically disadvantaged starting with slavery. But we need not even claim this, as uncontroversial as it should be, we need look only at the economic situation of the south in the ~30 years following the civil war to see how dependant the economy was upon the institution of slavery.Oh, alright, now we're back to your idiosyncratic habit of misinterpreting, presuming, and fixating over semantics.
Oh, alright, now we're back to you crying misunderstood authorial intent in your rambling discursive screeds aimed at no one in particular on nothing in particular except perhaps how everyone is wrong about everything ever. Good trick.What exactly does it mean for the US economy to have been "founded" on slavery? At what point in time? How much does it need to have contributed to be considered a foundational factor? By the same definition could that, let's say, the industry of creating wooden tops was a foundational factor?
"pivotal" was your term. Do you want to back off from that now?
I think "half the country goes into economic depression if thing goes away" is a good argument for a thing being economically "pivotal", do you disagree? -
2017-07-23 at 8:37 AM UTCGod you're annoying. This is why no one likes attempting to debate you. As I've said before, there's just something about you that's reminiscent of, yet far far worse, than autism.
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2017-07-23 at 8:51 AM UTClol, I accept your admission of defeat in that case.
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2017-07-23 at 9:18 AM UTCAnd if you're referring to autism as a mental illness, it is not, it's a neurological disorder/deviation.
To a degree, lower levels of education, employment among african americans owe in part to being historically economically disadvantaged starting with slavery. But we need not even claim this, as uncontroversial as it should be, we need look only at the economic situation of the south in the ~30 years following the civil war to see how dependant the economy was upon the institution of slavery.
No shit, what's your point? You can't simply assume that because the south experienced a drastic detrimental impact after the war and slavery was disbanded that the current state of the south is because of this.
"Oh, alright, now we're back to you crying misunderstood authorial intent in your rambling discursive screeds aimed at no one in particular on nothing in particular except perhaps how everyone is wrong about everything ever. Good trick."
Hahaha, this is what I imagine you would have been like towards people you disliked or in debates in middle school had you attended a school for the gifted, except you never fully grew out of it.
"I think "half the country goes into economic depression if thing goes away" is a good argument for a thing being economically "pivotal", do you disagree?"
Okay, I'll admit I wasn't clear and misspoke. Yes, of course at the time it was a substantial part of the economy, economic frictions are a standard part of economic theory, no one would argue that afterward they weren't bound to experience this. All I'm saying is:
1.) Slavery was not necessary for the US's economic development, its development to the point of global dominance.
2.) It was not a net benefit and an alternate timeline where it had never existed would have led to superior outcomes.
What exactly are you arguing? Slavery was a non-negligible component of the US economy, therefore it's non-negligible? This is tautological. If you're stating that the US would have experienced a current net modern loss stemming directly from the effects of an absence of slavery (Certainly things would be different, what's arguable is whether they would be worse, even simply for whites.), this is utter nonsense. Once again, you're a leftist and don't even understand economics, I don't know why you would even attempt to argue this.
I have it, this is "verbal autism". Yes, I may actually be onto something, something that would be worth writing a paper on. Now, listen to me, the basic outline I have in mind is that the cognitive style that is utilized by those who have an unnaturally high affinity toward computer programming, that is used while actually engaged in the task, can manifest in some via a neurological abnormality that causes them to be unable to normally modulate their cognitive style when engaged in tasks outside of this. Essentially, it's akin to the monomania, the extremely limited talents, that is observed as disproportionately occurring in those on the spectrum. Your were, neurologically, practically born to be unable to excel in anything other than computer programming. The drawback is, as I was leading to via the aforementioned, that this causes you to effectively be unable to function with others in any behavior where this will lead to considerable interference, such as now. Now, I certainly have a rather extreme hyper-systemizing and unemotional cognitive style, but this is different, far more general. Even in your romantic relationships, and you're bound to be completely oblivious as to just how radically you deviate from the norm, which is standard among those suffering from ASD (To be clear, I am not stating you are, simply that you possess a highly limited and rare form that is bound to have a shared or at least similar neurological basis.), I could imagine that everything that occurs in it, your analysis, plans, and actual execution of behavior/output is essentially of the same general style as that which you would use to produce a computer code. Now, you may claim that this is so complex it wouldn't even be feasible, that you don't even possess the knowledge, but that isn't what I'm stating. This has been a part of your being your entire life, since childhood, as demonstrated by your excessive amount of time spent using electronics, including computers, at the expense of social relationships or even simply being in the terrible world you've always known as the "outside", and has continually been developed, enmeshed into every facet of your life, you have learned to utilize it in order to be able to cope with the world, to function, and it has refined itself to the point, its strength growing in line with the natural neurological and cognitive development that occurs, that it has reached the level where it can function to the point where this can be attained. Cognitive functions are naturally largely automatic, of course you wouldn't be aware of it. Now, certainly it would function with total accuracy and efficacy, such a claim would be absurd, it's simply one of many cognitive strategies that could be used, and yours is simply exceedingly rare and abnormal. You possess enough interpersonal understanding and awareness, the general cognitive ability, to know that others perceive you as being strange, to whatever extent, possibly even abnormal, whatever adjective you believe is most commonly ascribed to you, but due to deeply seated introversion, awkwardness, low self esteem, deep insecurity, and fear of a negative perception/appraisal by others IRL it's far less perceptible and you've learned to mask it to some extent.
As I stated right in the second sentence of the above, this is merely a basic outline, and it will require a great amount of research to properly expound upon. I believe I am going to title the paper on this fascinating proposed undiscovered neurological abnormality and case study on you: Ryan Jenkins, the Boy Who Became a Cognitive Computer.
There are countless aspects of negroism that leftists such as yourself identify with, particularly during the slavery era. It's absolutely no surprise that you persistently engage in this glorification and defense of the black race. It's nothing but negrophilia. The fantasies you're bound to have of being analogous to a modern day slave in our technological-industrial economic system where you sell your labor, believing yourself to be forced into such an arrangement, is so evident it doesn't even deserve expounding upon. I could write one of my elaborate analyses of the fantasy you're bound to regularly retreat to while at work of an uprising against your masters, becoming the acknowledged voluntary leader of a new revolutionary force and finally having an outlet for what you would see as a justifiable exertion of violent force, when in fact it's nothing but part of the array of severe psychological deviations, primarily the psychopathic urge to engage in murder and torture of others, which you've suppressed since your teenage years, possibly even early childhood, but I'm tired and really don't feel in the right cognitive state to do so.
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2017-07-23 at 9:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by ZツK youre the only person with autism on this forum
No I'm not, I've literally identified or led to the diagnosis of multiple other people on this message board and have demonstrated that my prediction that it would be massively overrepresented (Rate of diagnosis in the US is under 1 in 1000) was absolutely right. I've even shown, which I also predicted, that literally every single remaining female on this board may have Asperger's.
It has such a profound effect on your life, the value of what can stem from being aware of possessing this condition, along with the data I mentioned above, everything has such profound cumulative value that it has been well worth, many times over, my obsessive research and ranting over ASD/Asperger's/autism.
If you don't agree with this you are not a man of science, learning, and do not genuinely care about either of the two aforementioned categories. I insist that you tear up any degrees you may have, never use them for your benefit again, or even utilize anything that was produced via science and knowledge in general. You do not deserve it. In fact, in your own personal life you should not even use the scientific method in any form or even think. I am genuinely requesting that you stop thinking ever again and go live in the wilderness like the savage you are, you don't deserve it. -
2017-07-23 at 9:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by ZツK autism = mental retardation
just replace the word "autism" with "mental retardation" every time you go on one of these rants
(you're literally retarded)
Oh ho, you made the mistake of reminding of my planned thread on autism and intelligence, replete with an array of undeniable studies.
Just you wait, sploo, you will never be able to make this claim again.
That aside, it would be better to be even a low functioning autistic than to be you, whatever it is you are, the vast array of deficits you possess.
"Nu uh, my psychiatrist only diagnosed me with OCD, depression, and polysubstance abuse! I'm always high! Shut up, how would you know!?"
Oh, riiiight, your entire life has just been one big drug induced laugh. There are no underlying deficits at all and once you finally get clean and begin flying straight you'll immediately become a success. The only reason it hasn't occurred at any point to date is because you simply don't want to. Doing low quality drugs all day and traumatizing people is simply your goal in life.
Why, I was completely wrong after all. A person such as yourself if leaps better for the world around him, even for himself, than any form of autism possibly could be. You're practically nature's greatest miracle.
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2017-07-23 at 9:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by ZツK you told everyone to take a personality test. if they scored themselves high enough it meant to you that THEY MUST HAVE AUTISM THERE IS IRREFUTABLE PROOF FROM THIS MULTIPLE CHOICE TEST THEIR WHOLE LIFE WAS A LIE THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
youre way too socially retarded to diagnose anyone with anything. you'd be the worst psychologist in the world because all of your analyses are just mentally retarded self referential thinking. you're the only user here who actually comes off as disabled enough to be some weird form of downs syndrome, so yes, you're the only person here anyone would really consider a total autard dumbass/loser/should commit suicide/etc
Sploo, I have something to reveal to you. I'm not who you think I am. I've been living a lie.
This entire time you've actually been speaking to
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2017-07-23 at 9:42 AM UTCRee to the left
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2017-07-23 at 9:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by ZツK i never said i was normal. no one on this site is normal. but you and Bill Krozby (in very different ways) are the only users that seem to have a completely distorted, irredeemable, simplistically retarded view on reality that is creates imminent and continuous cringe and a bane on every individual in any proximity of you two online or irl
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2017-07-23 at 9:46 AM UTC
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2017-07-23 at 1:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Malice No I'm not, I've literally identified or led to the diagnosis of multiple other people on this message board and have demonstrated that my prediction that it would be massively overrepresented (Rate of diagnosis in the US is under 1 in 1000) was absolutely right. I've even shown, which I also predicted, that literally every single remaining female on this board may have Asperger's.
It has such a profound effect on your life, the value of what can stem from being aware of possessing this condition, along with the data I mentioned above, everything has such profound cumulative value that it has been well worth, many times over, my obsessive research and ranting over ASD/Asperger's/autism.
If you don't agree with this you are not a man of science, learning, and do not genuinely care about either of the two aforementioned categories. I insist that you tear up any degrees you may have, never use them for your benefit again, or even utilize anything that was produced via science and knowledge in general. You do not deserve it. In fact, in your own personal life you should not even use the scientific method in any form or even think. I am genuinely requesting that you stop thinking ever again and go live in the wilderness like the savage you are, you don't deserve it.
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2017-07-23 at 3:25 PM UTC
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2017-07-23 at 3:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon You're literally making shit up lol.
- 60 percent of the United States' export income came from salve picked cotton
- Cotton picking is not a skilled job that requires groundbreaking workmanship.
Is the cost of living for a slave cheaper than the cost of living for a free man?
if you had two people picking cotton in your field, one a slave who you kept poor and forced him to work, despite the fact he really didn't want to be there doing it and could really be doing much better things with his time. and the other you paid minimum wage to, and offered him a performance related bonus. who the fuck do you think is gonna pick the most cotton every day?
i mean obviously the next guy who you offered a million buck to pick your field is gonna pick way more, but that isn't gonna work for you tho for obvious reasons. its all about maximum profits and finding the right business model that works to maximize profits.
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2017-07-23 at 4:01 PM UTC
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2017-07-23 at 4:16 PM UTCitt retards trying to talk about the south like they live here
post civil war south was in a depression because of a sudden loss of their means of production, widespread destruction, and generally just fucked after losing the war (as was germany after ww1). the problem was only made worse by things like carpetbagging. either way, sharecropping started up soon after the war when all the emancipated blacks needed a way to pay the bills and all the plantation owners that remained needed their fields worked. that kept the poor people poor until the 2nd industrial revolution came in full swing (and even during because of unemployment).
the places that are poor in the south today dont have any relation to the poverty of the 1860's. there are plenty of rough areas in the north too (detroit, chicago, philadelphia, parts of NYC, hartford, etc) -
2017-07-23 at 4:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist if you had two people picking cotton in your field, one a slave who you kept poor and forced him to work, despite the fact he really didn't want to be there doing it and could really be doing much better things with his time. and the other you paid minimum wage to, and offered him a performance related bonus. who the fuck do you think is gonna pick the most cotton every day?
i mean obviously the next guy who you offered a million buck to pick your field is gonna pick way more, but that isn't gonna work for you tho for obvious reasons. its all about maximum profits and finding the right business model that works to maximize profits.
The slave doesn't have better things to do, he is being whipped with a cat o ninetails by his slavedriver.
The question isn't whether a free worker would be better at a given job, it is the differential in their performance would be big enough to outweigh having a similar or greater number of slaves who work for basic sustenance Vs a living wage. -
2017-07-23 at 4:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist well technically you can force a slave to work for free, but they tend to die pretty quickly without food and water. trying taking that business plan to the bank and see how quickly they don't lend you any money.
The slaves work for free. Gratis. They are not entitled to any pay, and they cannot walk away. Feeding them is simply an efficiency decision made by the owner. -
2017-07-23 at 4:47 PM UTCOh and whether or not slavery was more profitable (it was) doesn't matter; it was the main mode of production for the US's primary economic driver, cotton farming. Either way, it was slavery that supplied 60% of the US's export earnings before the civil war. Slavery built the US.
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2017-07-23 at 5:03 PM UTCAnd who fed the slaves? Indentured servants that got worked to death half the time that nobody gives a fuck about. Over one half of the European immigrants that came to america were indentured servants. Most of the slaves from africa went to the middle east, and you know why there aren't any black people bitching about racism in the middle east? castration.
Seriously, leftists oversimplifying history and then calling autism mental retardation, this is why trump won.
