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2017-06-30 at 6:49 PM UTC
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2017-06-30 at 7:42 PM UTCi'm pretty sure the dark rodent is a child molesterThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-06-30 at 7:58 PM UTC
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2017-06-30 at 9:13 PM UTC
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2017-06-30 at 11:53 PM UTCThe only people posting at that place was DFG and Bornkiller.
I never had a problem with either but some of the shit that was posted was truly cringe worthy,like the whole how to fuck your dog thing just creeped me out.
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2017-07-01 at 1:36 AM UTCwhat the hell? We all talked about this before. You guys acted like you didn't know DFG and DFG says he was DFG (with an added extention) while he said Zoklet was DFG
So Angry is now saying what I said before DFG runs totsean
Even Vice.com did a story on them. this is brilliant. thanks for bringing this up. He also told me he lived in the Philippines.
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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bmjyda/the-rise-and-fall-of-zoklet-the-forum-of-bad-ideas
The long-running community of aspiring degenerates has disbanded.
SWIM plans is to suitcase the essential items in SWIMS butt. SWIM will carefully triple wrap the drugs, as well as using 2 condoms. SWIM is aware of the dangers of putting drugs in SWIMS ass.
It seems only natural that this post comes from a forum called "Bad Ideas," a database of discussions on ill-advised activities such as PayPal fraud, car-hopping and shoplifting. The author goes on to announce the subject's intention to smuggle an iPhone into prison by similar means, making use of the acronym "SWIM"–"Someone Who Isn't Me"–in an attempt to distance him or herself from the post.
Popular right around the time Jackass first debuted on TV screens, Bad Ideas was part of Zoklet.net, a forum dedicated to sharing unusual or difficult-to-find information. For years, Bad Ideas was its morbidly fascinating main draw, an online library of advice, stories and "lulzy bad ideas" for aspiring criminals.
This month, Zoklet finally closed its doors, with its owner, known as Zok, citing health concerns, mounting surveillance, and legal fees as the cause. "Over the years, I've been contacted and questioned by the FBI, secret service, local law enforcement, lawyers, and nosy reporters… It has not been a fruitful adventure," he wrote in a post. (This nosy reporter did try to approach Zok, but received no reply.)
Zoklet was heir to a series of websites which retained the same community over 20 years, starting in 1990 with the BBS file-sharing network NIRVANAnet, then later Totse (an acronym for the psychedelic "& the Temple of the Screaming Electron"), and after that Zoklet. Each site was founded on the tenet of freedom of information, but was doomed to collapse under the weight of its own controversy.
"Over the years, I've been contacted and questioned by the FBI, secret service, local law enforcement, lawyers, and nosy reporters."
When a 1993 article in the Contra Costa Times accused NIRVANAnet of "providing instructions on credit card fraud, money laundering, mail fraud, counterfeiting, drug smuggling, cable-TV theft, bomb-making and murder," its founder, the pseudonymous Jeff Hunter, defended it in a letter to the editor:
When you exchange messages with people on NIRVANANet(™), you do not know the age, gender, race, religious affiliation, political party, hair length, mode of dress, or sexual orientation of the person you are talking to… teenagers talk to grandparents, bikers talk with born-again Christians, and Socialists talk to Republicans. These people would never speak to one another if they met on the street, but because they can use computers, they freely exchange thoughts, ideas, dreams and hopes.
NIRVANAnet, Totse and Zoklet held common ideals, but their message was always ultimately drowned out by infighting and trolling. Through Zoklet's afterlife on Reddit ( /r/Zoklet is a no-man's land, but /r/Totse is thriving), I tracked down former moderator Dfg to find out more, along with long-term forum contributor DaGuru, who was apparently something of an antagonist as he was banned from Zoklet on and off for trolling.
"From 2009 to 2013 was the golden age of Zoklet," DaGuru said. "The site had probably been dying for the last two years. A lot of key members had been banned, or left, and almost all the conversation on Zoklet became stuff about Zoklet. Just drama."
Dfg spoke of dedicating years of his life to the forum: "Think of Zoklet as an addiction. Once you get you're just stuck... If I had spent that amount of time on something else I would quite frankly be swimming in moolah."
As Zoklet veered closer to crowdsourced car-crash reading, it drew enthusiastic new users but alienated the old ones.
Bad Ideas exemplified Zoklet's contradictory values: a sense of communal goodwill coupled with indifference to society as a whole. But the new recruits lured in by Bad Ideas took the site in a reckless direction.
Using the WayBack Machine, I scanned through questions about ID forgery, how high to price Adderall prescriptions for resale, and how to sell college essays online. Sometimes the advice issued is flippant ("Pawn all your mommies gold…"), other times it is scheming and ambitious.
The board's visitors claim to flashmob shops and forge casino chips, preying on corporate America. Anarchist insurrection never seems far off, with free speech pushed to its limits. An unruly update to Abbie Hoffman's 70s counterculture bible Steal This Book, Bad Ideas lends a devilish new dimension to life, as though its users have found a way to game reality.
Until you step back and realize you're reading a board called Bad Ideas. "You are a future inmate," writes one deadpan commenter, and they might very well be correct. In 2011, Texas student Lucas Henderson was sentenced to $900,000 in restitution payments for creating a 45-page manual titled "How to Make Coupons" and distributing fake coupons on Zoklet and 4chan.
Henderson's crime bore all the hallmarks of a standard Bad Idea: a DIY ethos and knowledge shared online, aimed at damaging corporations rather than independent shops. "Never steal from a mom & pop store" proclaim the rules of Zoklet's shoplifting thread. "This goes to the belief of sticking it to 'The Man.'"
"Try going to jail for some idiot who posted on your website."
As Zoklet veered closer to crowdsourced car-crash reading, it drew enthusiastic new users but alienated old ones. "Bad Ideas probably brought in most of the new members to Zoklet," DaGuru said. "Most of the content there would only be appealing to 14-year-olds and bums… things that the person asking either had no hope of achieving or just liked to imagine themselves doing." Dfg's comments corroborated this: "Thanks to Bad Ideas and other shady users, Zoklet got the wrong type of attention."
Henderson was tracked down by his IP address. Similar claims of bank heists and break-ins put Dfg in a difficult position as moderator. "You really don't have any decent options," he said. "Try going to jail for some idiot who posted on your website."
Eventually, Zoklet surfaced at a cultural crossroads, where forum culture gave way to social media, and the files and secrets shared on its threads became available to the internet at large. Bad Ideas, which had drawn new life and infamy to Zoklet, slowly began to destroy it with spam and trolling. "Forums like Totse and Zoklet can't survive for long," said Dfg. "It's just not sustainable. In the end free information killed forums."
The schisms and purges led to several new sites, including Totse.info, Totse2 and Totseans (still active, and of which Dfg is owner/admin). "It was a clusterfuck, to be honest," said Dfg. "The same users going around creating drama." New sites Sanctuary and LongLiveZoklet now compete to rally the community Zoklet left behind.
The final threads on Bad Ideas go from bravado to paranoia and sorrow, a forum in mourning for itself. Calls to "go out with a BANG" go unheeded, while one user asks, "Is there a lawyer in the house?" Another exchange calculates the time spent on Zoklet by its users was 27 years in total, asking "What do we name our, uh, child. Our digital man-baby?"
No one replies. And then:
"Zoklet joined the 27 Club."
"Omg you're right, I didn't think about that. Fucking epic. We went out like rockstars... Like the rockstars we'll never be."The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-01 at 1:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 what the hell? We all talked about this before. You guys acted like you didn't know DFG and DFG says he was DFG (with an added extention) while he said Zoklet was DFG
So Angry is now saying what I said before DFG runs totsean
Even Vice.com did a story on them. this is brilliant. thanks for bringing this up. He also told me he lived in the Philippines.
source
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bmjyda/the-rise-and-fall-of-zoklet-the-forum-of-bad-ideas
The long-running community of aspiring degenerates has disbanded.
SWIM plans is to suitcase the essential items in SWIMS butt. SWIM will carefully triple wrap the drugs, as well as using 2 condoms. SWIM is aware of the dangers of putting drugs in SWIMS ass.
It seems only natural that this post comes from a forum called "Bad Ideas," a database of discussions on ill-advised activities such as PayPal fraud, car-hopping and shoplifting. The author goes on to announce the subject's intention to smuggle an iPhone into prison by similar means, making use of the acronym "SWIM"–"Someone Who Isn't Me"–in an attempt to distance him or herself from the post.
Popular right around the time Jackass first debuted on TV screens, Bad Ideas was part of Zoklet.net, a forum dedicated to sharing unusual or difficult-to-find information. For years, Bad Ideas was its morbidly fascinating main draw, an online library of advice, stories and "lulzy bad ideas" for aspiring criminals.
This month, Zoklet finally closed its doors, with its owner, known as Zok, citing health concerns, mounting surveillance, and legal fees as the cause. "Over the years, I've been contacted and questioned by the FBI, secret service, local law enforcement, lawyers, and nosy reporters… It has not been a fruitful adventure," he wrote in a post. (This nosy reporter did try to approach Zok, but received no reply.)
Zoklet was heir to a series of websites which retained the same community over 20 years, starting in 1990 with the BBS file-sharing network NIRVANAnet, then later Totse (an acronym for the psychedelic "& the Temple of the Screaming Electron"), and after that Zoklet. Each site was founded on the tenet of freedom of information, but was doomed to collapse under the weight of its own controversy.
"Over the years, I've been contacted and questioned by the FBI, secret service, local law enforcement, lawyers, and nosy reporters."
When a 1993 article in the Contra Costa Times accused NIRVANAnet of "providing instructions on credit card fraud, money laundering, mail fraud, counterfeiting, drug smuggling, cable-TV theft, bomb-making and murder," its founder, the pseudonymous Jeff Hunter, defended it in a letter to the editor:
When you exchange messages with people on NIRVANANet(™), you do not know the age, gender, race, religious affiliation, political party, hair length, mode of dress, or sexual orientation of the person you are talking to… teenagers talk to grandparents, bikers talk with born-again Christians, and Socialists talk to Republicans. These people would never speak to one another if they met on the street, but because they can use computers, they freely exchange thoughts, ideas, dreams and hopes.
NIRVANAnet, Totse and Zoklet held common ideals, but their message was always ultimately drowned out by infighting and trolling. Through Zoklet's afterlife on Reddit ( /r/Zoklet is a no-man's land, but /r/Totse is thriving), I tracked down former moderator Dfg to find out more, along with long-term forum contributor DaGuru, who was apparently something of an antagonist as he was banned from Zoklet on and off for trolling.
"From 2009 to 2013 was the golden age of Zoklet," DaGuru said. "The site had probably been dying for the last two years. A lot of key members had been banned, or left, and almost all the conversation on Zoklet became stuff about Zoklet. Just drama."
Dfg spoke of dedicating years of his life to the forum: "Think of Zoklet as an addiction. Once you get you're just stuck… If I had spent that amount of time on something else I would quite frankly be swimming in moolah."
As Zoklet veered closer to crowdsourced car-crash reading, it drew enthusiastic new users but alienated the old ones.
Bad Ideas exemplified Zoklet's contradictory values: a sense of communal goodwill coupled with indifference to society as a whole. But the new recruits lured in by Bad Ideas took the site in a reckless direction.
Using the WayBack Machine, I scanned through questions about ID forgery, how high to price Adderall prescriptions for resale, and how to sell college essays online. Sometimes the advice issued is flippant ("Pawn all your mommies gold…"), other times it is scheming and ambitious.
The board's visitors claim to flashmob shops and forge casino chips, preying on corporate America. Anarchist insurrection never seems far off, with free speech pushed to its limits. An unruly update to Abbie Hoffman's 70s counterculture bible Steal This Book, Bad Ideas lends a devilish new dimension to life, as though its users have found a way to game reality.
Until you step back and realize you're reading a board called Bad Ideas. "You are a future inmate," writes one deadpan commenter, and they might very well be correct. In 2011, Texas student Lucas Henderson was sentenced to $900,000 in restitution payments for creating a 45-page manual titled "How to Make Coupons" and distributing fake coupons on Zoklet and 4chan.
Henderson's crime bore all the hallmarks of a standard Bad Idea: a DIY ethos and knowledge shared online, aimed at damaging corporations rather than independent shops. "Never steal from a mom & pop store" proclaim the rules of Zoklet's shoplifting thread. "This goes to the belief of sticking it to 'The Man.'"
"Try going to jail for some idiot who posted on your website."
As Zoklet veered closer to crowdsourced car-crash reading, it drew enthusiastic new users but alienated old ones. "Bad Ideas probably brought in most of the new members to Zoklet," DaGuru said. "Most of the content there would only be appealing to 14-year-olds and bums… things that the person asking either had no hope of achieving or just liked to imagine themselves doing." Dfg's comments corroborated this: "Thanks to Bad Ideas and other shady users, Zoklet got the wrong type of attention."
Henderson was tracked down by his IP address. Similar claims of bank heists and break-ins put Dfg in a difficult position as moderator. "You really don't have any decent options," he said. "Try going to jail for some idiot who posted on your website."
Eventually, Zoklet surfaced at a cultural crossroads, where forum culture gave way to social media, and the files and secrets shared on its threads became available to the internet at large. Bad Ideas, which had drawn new life and infamy to Zoklet, slowly began to destroy it with spam and trolling. "Forums like Totse and Zoklet can't survive for long," said Dfg. "It's just not sustainable. In the end free information killed forums."
The schisms and purges led to several new sites, including Totse.info, Totse2 and Totseans (still active, and of which Dfg is owner/admin). "It was a clusterfuck, to be honest," said Dfg. "The same users going around creating drama." New sites Sanctuary and LongLiveZoklet now compete to rally the community Zoklet left behind.
The final threads on Bad Ideas go from bravado to paranoia and sorrow, a forum in mourning for itself. Calls to "go out with a BANG" go unheeded, while one user asks, "Is there a lawyer in the house?" Another exchange calculates the time spent on Zoklet by its users was 27 years in total, asking "What do we name our, uh, child. Our digital man-baby?"
No one replies. And then:
"Zoklet joined the 27 Club."
"Omg you're right, I didn't think about that. Fucking epic. We went out like rockstars… Like the rockstars we'll never be."
I Think its time to put the pipe down man. -
2017-07-01 at 1:50 AM UTC
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2017-07-01 at 2 AM UTC
Originally posted by AngryOnion I Think its time to put the pipe down man.
Fucking Vice wrote a whole fucking article All of you seem to suddenly and purposefully disconnect with aggressive responses to this. That's odd. I didn't write this fucking article. this group is known
This company even made a full length film we watched. about the first men on the moon being faked. Maybe they were called to talk to DFG because he's so fucking addicted to talking about totse he's obsessed not for finding information but getting back with his old buddies.. and this was the best Vice could do is talk to him?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-01 at 2:19 AM UTCEDITOR'S NOTE:
That "quote" from DaGuru is bogus and worthless. That was a fake DaGuru account TheDarkRodent created to try and smear the real DaGuru. There was also a fake -SpectraL account as well, also created by TheDarkRodent, aka Darth Beaver, aka Jedi Knight, aka Jedi Moped, aka Yoda... the list goes on and on. -
2017-07-01 at 3:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL EDITOR'S NOTE:
That "quote" from DaGuru is bogus and worthless. That was a fake DaGuru account TheDarkRodent created to try and smear the real DaGuru. There was also a fake -SpectraL account as well, also created by TheDarkRodent, aka Darth Beaver, aka Jedi Knight, aka Jedi Moped, aka Yoda… the list goes on and on.
that is fucking pathetic.
almost as pathetic as that meth junkie posting pics of that chick, pretending to be her.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-01 at 3:59 AM UTCOnce TheDarkRodent had finished clearing out the last of the site's regular members, he then began making fake accounts, to try and pretend to Dfg that he didn't destroy the BBS memberbase. He used fake IPs to make the masquerade look more believable. Dfg, gullible as he is, swallowed it, hook, line and sinker. But then TheDarkRodent made a mistake, and Dfg found out it was him impersonating people, and banned TheDarkRodent. This left Dfg all by himself with no one at all on his site, so he converted it to a text-only site.
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2017-07-01 at 4:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Once TheDarkRodent had finished clearing out the last of the site's regular members, he then began making fake accounts, to try and pretend to Dfg that he didn't destroy the BBS memberbase. He used fake IPs to make the masquerade look more believable. Dfg, gullible as he is, swallowed it, hook, line and sinker. But then TheDarkRodent made a mistake, and Dfg found out it was him impersonating people, and banned TheDarkRodent. This left Dfg all by himself with no one at all on his site, so he converted it to a text-only site.
that is fucking hilarious. -
2017-07-01 at 4:11 AM UTCBack on Zoklet, Dfg himself used to have this list on his Zoklet profile called his "Kill List". This was an updated list of members he had been proud to have personally banned. At the end, it had over 700 members on it. Zok just sat idly by and let him do it, and even let him boast and crow about it. So, really, Dfg and TheDarkRodent and zok and all of them were just a bunch of lousy cock knockers. Full of themselves. Arrogant. Totally anti-BBS. They were all cut from the same cloth. But they finally met their match and were sent packing, in the end, and I wasn't the only one either.
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2017-07-01 at 9:07 AM UTCI guess it was kind of fitting that 'raw data for raw nerves' had mods who were so sensitive and easily upset.
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2017-07-01 at 9:11 AM UTC
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2017-07-01 at 10:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by inb4l0pht I guess it was kind of fitting that 'raw data for raw nerves' had mods who were so sensitive and easily upset.
Originally posted by Bill Krozby that's why I said "raw data for raw pussies" even arnie was more stoic than those guys.
Sounds like you two just need to "get tuff" lol
That "tuff crew" shit was the cringiest thing I've ever seen out of this community -
2017-07-01 at 3:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by inb4l0pht I guess it was kind of fitting that 'raw data for raw nerves' had mods who were so sensitive and easily upset.
One day, zok called all the mods into Mods&Admins and gave them an ultimatum. If any mod continued to trash talk the administration, wires, or any member of staff, they would be fired. No criticism whatsoever was to be allowed, even if justified. Right away, SLIM and I refused and warned zok directly that we would not comply, and that we would continue to voice or concerns if warranted, which it was. The other mods started right away sucking on zok and wires' dicks, petting and fondling their egos, and making it appear as if this order from on high was totally copacetic, acceptable and cool. So when SLIM and I kept on criticizing wires and zok's bullshit antics, zok called us up on the rug directly and again ordered us to stop talking about them negatively. SLIM went right out and deliberately made another critical post, to celebrate his actual freedom, and was immediately removed by zok. After I saw that, I gave zok my resignation and told him to go fuck himself. But instead of notifying the staff of my resignation, he made it appear to the community as if I had been fired, and he did that just so he would come out looking better to everyone, and to feed wires' some more ego pie. It was at that point that zok suddenly started to suffer a mysterious hijacking of many of his mod accounts. Two here, three there, one here, one there. It got so bad for the little guy that he had to make a thread in M&A begging whoever was doing it to stop, but it had already gone way beyond the point of negotiation. Here was a guy who grabbed the remainder of Totse's userbase for himself, gleefully invited them all in, and then decided he in fact owned them and could do and say anything he liked to them without recompense. I mean, he owned some webspace and a shitty software server, so that gave him all the right in the world to shut people up and ban people he didn't agree with, right? And then, wouldn't you know, his little server got hammered to death with denial of service attacks. So he moved the server to a "more secure" location. And then he got hammered even worse, and moved it back. Then he moved it again. But did that help the little Nazi? Not at all! Now, his server was not only getting hammered harder than a lifetime alcoholic at a free beer festival, but it was getting taken completely offline, too. And very frequently, I might add. So he erected all these lame security barriers and shit, but it was like shooting 50 calibre bullets through curtains of well-cooked spaghetti. Poor kid. So he went back to M&A and started bitching and complaining, and his own hacked mod accounts were replying. At the same time, an operation was under way to "get to know him better" IRL. Whoa! That's dirty pool! Imagine a dirty pool player playing dirty pool with a dirty pool player! Too square for fair! Now, the kid was really sweating it. It was terrible. But he couldn't fold, because then he would have had to admit defeat. Then the temperature went up another notch. And then another. And another. All that heat coming in from all directions. Then his memberbase itself started to get hacked big-time. Hundreds of active accounts hijacked. So he closed registration. But that really doesn't help you if the accounts are already registered and active, amirite? Poor kid was getting desperate, and the heat went up another notch when all the cops and feds started to magically appear. Now, he's getting subpoenas and shit. Who knew!? Ah, well, it was all just too much for the poor Nazi kid, who was once-upon-a-time like a poor farmer, a decent guy to shoot the breeze with, until the power went to his head, that is. "I've fallen and I can't get up and now I need to close the site! TTFN!!" ~ signed; zok. And the moral of this story? Never let the power go to your head. Because, remember, there's always a bigger fish out there. That's the moral of this story: there are always bigger fish out there. But, you know, there are always fresh takers out there ready to step up and try; that's what makes it fun. -
2017-07-01 at 4:04 PM UTC
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2017-07-01 at 6:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon Not everything is about Jeff Hunter you mental defective.
Once again.. Paki Stack
If he trademarked and copyright the phrase .. perhaps he didn't want it used?
wouldn't it be interesting if there was a cease and Desist if you can't figure out where that was going to without "uber cooling Jeff Hunter" (because ohh he's so cooooool zok is so cooool) that's your problem, Bruh!! ;)
