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2017-06-29 at 4:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon Question to the atheists among us; what would it take to make you believe God exists?
If God came down to Earth and somehow objectively proved himself real, or if we could objectively prove his existence ourselves, I would believe then. Until there is objective evidence in the positive or negative there is no way to know.
And yes, atheists, we need to be able to prove God doesn't exist through science to objectively claim that he doesn't. Lack of evidence is not evidence for either side, and there is no burden of proof so shut the fuck up about that shit. We proved philostogen didn't exist and we can just as well prove God doesn't exist. -
2017-06-29 at 4:33 AM UTCMMY MIND FINGERS
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2017-06-29 at 4:36 AM UTCOMFG
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2017-06-29 at 4:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Imagine a scenario where your parents split up, the father took you, and your mother took your two little sisters. This occurs at a young enough age and for enough time for the Westermarck effect to not occur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect
Then some time later, around your preferred age for this fantasy (At least 8 for me, I'm not a pedo), you're reunited and eventually develop mutual attraction.
It's a simple scenario, but this could actually occur IRL, leading to the ultimate imouto fantasy if they're both attractive and your parent(s) are at least middle class and away from home a lot.
>at least 8
>not a pedo
Below 11 is considered pedophilia, but feel free to identify as anything you'd be comfortable with. Secondary non-exclusive pedophilia seems like the appropriate description though. Also i have seen you mention that there is a clear difference between 2D and 3D and while that may be true, if you like lolicon, you are probably a closet pedo.
ALSO!!!
Westermarck effect seems to have misfired in my brain in general. But that my friends, is a story for another day. -
2017-06-29 at 4:59 AM UTCwo yao guo rou qing
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2017-06-29 at 5:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 If God came down to Earth and somehow objectively proved himself real, or if we could objectively prove his existence ourselves, I would believe then. Until there is objective evidence in the positive or negative there is no way to know.
Pfft. If God did come down to earth and objectively prove his existence, you still would deny it. How do I know? (Hint: because it already happened). -
2017-06-29 at 5:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Below 11 is considered pedophilia, but feel free to identify as anything you'd be comfortable with. Secondary non-exclusive pedophilia seems like the appropriate description though. Also i have seen you mention that there is a clear difference between 2D and 3D and while that may be true, if you like lolicon, you are probably a closet pedo.
11 is the cutoff? I'd say below 15.
Originally posted by Sophie Westermarck effect seems to have misfired in my brain in general. But that my friends, is a story for another day.
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2017-06-29 at 5:20 AM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 5:25 AM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 5:26 AM UTCAll through the power of anime Malice has come to accept his latent pedophilia. Soon enough you will be Googling lolicon, and compulsively saving anime lolis to your special secret folder. Then when you realize 2D is gay you will graduate to children's pool parties and the realization will dawn on you that you are in fact not safe. What if someone finds out what is in your special secret folder? What if someone knows. The NSA has all your internet history. One count of CP is a felony and in some states has a mandatory sentence of 5 years. As your lust for females of the younger persuasion grows ever more intensely you will grow ever more concerned for your safety as well. It is in that moment that you know. You must learn the ways of OPSEC and divine the sacred truths of cryptography. Fear not, for there have been many that have walked this path before you, and their knowledge is most sacred when shared in the hidden places of the web and shared they have been. Indeed, with a mindful conviction you must apply yourself to the study of their teachings and, in time, you too will learn to traverse the web like a ghost. A spirit of hunger, an ethereal presence with a single-minded purpose: To collect the dankest CP there is. And as you load up your 7 proxies VPN, VPS and TOR while mounting your hidden veracrypt volumes as receptacles and digital representation of the essence you have become then it will dawn on you. You must seek out The One, the true master of the hidden lore of the undernet as it is he alone who can supply you with the carnal knowledge of most divine pre-teen pussy. And as through a fog a single name will appear before you and it will spell Sophie. And as you approach me, trembling upon the realization that i am this most divine being you will speak these words unto me: S-sophie, are you The One? And i will render unto you but a single sentence, one point of light in an ever expanding void of confusion and darkness. "Nay my son, we traverse together, I may be one but we are one of many, we are legion". And awe shall be the emotion transposed unto your visage.
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2017-06-29 at 5:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dargo Pfft. If God did come down to earth and objectively prove his existence, you still would deny it. How do I know? (Hint: because it already happened).
Then why the fuck hasn't he sent someone again? It's allegedly been 2,000 years and people have damn good reasons to doubt the bible. Why in the hell wouldn't he easily remedy this so people would stop being lead astray, more would lead righteous lives, the kind of life he wants them to live, stop much of the suffering, and some of the wars, in the world?
Don't give me some bullshit about "faith". Not having evidence of something, but believing it anyway, is an absurd requirement. If that's the basis for it, how are you supposed to know that Christianity is right out of all the other religions, why shouldn't you have "faith" that this terrible god doesn't exist? -
2017-06-29 at 5:27 AM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 5:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Then why the fuck hasn't he sent someone again? It's allegedly been 2,000 years and people have damn good reasons to doubt the bible. Why in the hell wouldn't he easily remedy this so people would stop being lead astray, more would lead righteous lives, the kind of life he wants them to live, stop much of the suffering, and some of the wars, in the world?
Yeah. That's called Revelation. He is coming back, and some argue quite soon since we seem to be reaching the end of the church age.
Originally posted by Malice Don't give me some bullshit about "faith". Not having evidence of something, but believing it anyway, is an absurd requirement. If that's the basis for it, how are you supposed to know that Christianity is right out of all the other religions, why shouldn't you have "faith" that this terrible god doesn't exist?
As I said before, I agree with you that blind faith is lame. How do I know that all the other religions are false tho? It goes liek this:
if Christianity=true
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2017-06-29 at 5:32 AM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 5:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dargo I suppose it's primarily that:
-God is in control of, well, everything. I don't have to worry about where my life is headed or how things will turn out. I just have to follow God's lead and trust he knows what he's doing.
-Letting go allows me to enjoy all the little things in life.
-My life purposeful. I have a job to do (serving God) that is greater than any other calling.
-All the shittiness will eventually come to an end. Not just when I die, but when Christ comes back and wipes everything clean for good.
-I'm freely forgiven. All the bad shit I've ever done is erased from my record and I don't have to worry about my bad deeds outweighing my good ones.
-The worst thing that could happen to me is ultimately death, which to a Christian, isn't really a punishment.
I probably missed something, but that's the gist of it.
Dargo, your beliefs are absolutely retarded. If you genuinely believe this there's no point in arguing with you, just like the overwhelming majority of the religious. Incredibly irrational. -
2017-06-29 at 5:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Dargo, your beliefs are absolutely retarded. If you genuinely believe this there's no point in arguing with you, just like the overwhelming majority of the religious. Incredibly irrational.
If there is a God, it's completely rational. Surely you can understand that as an atheist. -
2017-06-29 at 5:39 AM UTCYour reason for believing in god is also utterly idiotic and irrational.
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2017-06-29 at 5:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Your reason for believing in god is also utterly idiotic and irrational.
lol. You're repeating the same little insults over and over at this point. For the third time now, I have several reasons for believing in God, and I agree with you that blind faith is a bad thing.
Since this obviously isn't going anywhere, let's just change the subject. -
2017-06-29 at 5:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Your reason for believing in god is also utterly idiotic and irrational.
This^
I have a friend, she's a well to do religious goody two shoes Christian girl, and at least she accepts that there is no objective evidence of God and that her belief is based entirely off faith and believing and hoping. I can respect her beliefs because she objective about it and understands that there is no rational reason to believe in God. She doesn't believe in any determinism bullshit, doesn't believe her specific sect of her specific monotheistic religion is the 'right one.' To her, it's about love and kindness and that's GREAT. You could argue she isn't Christian but lets not pretend any Christian here is picking and choosing what they like from Christianity any better.
Point is, she accepts rationality and willingly chooses to go against it. And not without trepidation either, but whatever. I can respect this kind of religion. Anybody who claims they know anything 100% is fucking delusional. I've felt/experienced real feelings too, but I don't assume they're real just because I feel/experience them. -
2017-06-29 at 6:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 This^
I have a friend, she's a well to do religious goody two shoes Christian girl, and at least she accepts that there is no objective evidence of God and that her belief is based entirely off faith and believing and hoping. I can respect her beliefs because she objective about it and understands that there is no rational reason to believe in God. She doesn't believe in any determinism bullshit, doesn't believe her specific sect of her specific monotheistic religion is the 'right one.' To her, it's about love and kindness and that's GREAT. You could argue she isn't Christian but lets not pretend any Christian here is picking and choosing what they like from Christianity any better.
Point is, she accepts rationality and willingly chooses to go against it. And not without trepidation either, but whatever. I can respect this kind of religion. Anybody who claims they know anything 100% is fucking delusional. I've felt/experienced real feelings too, but I don't assume they're real just because I feel/experience them.
Determinism is real.