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  1. #41
    Bradley Florida Man
    do they make you give them money at the AI church
  2. #42
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Originally posted by Bradley do they make you give them money at the AI church

    no, the pizza is free

    SSPX (Society of St. Pius X): The SSPX provides traditional liturgy and sacraments, including RCIA-like instruction, although their relationship with the wider Church is unique due to their positions on Vatican II. They offer a robust traditional formation for converts but may not explicitly call it RCIA on their website. You may contact a nearby SSPX chapel for more information about their process.

    FSSP (Fraternity of St. Peter): The FSSP runs parishes that focus on the Traditional Latin Mass and also have RCIA or OCIA programs for those seeking to convert to Catholicism in the traditional rite. St. Mary's in Dayton, affiliated with the FSSP, would be a good place to inquire about this. Their programs will likely be fully in communion with the local diocesan bishop.

    Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (ICKSP): This institute is known for its traditional liturgy and also provides catechetical instruction for converts. Their apostolates often have robust formation programs and follow traditional sacraments, although you might need to reach out directly to confirm the specifics of their RCIA or OCIA offerings.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/a1bjbg/for_those_of_you_who_converted_without_rcia/
    I’ll be crossing the Tiber very soon after living the Catholic faith for over a decade. Convert from Methodism.

    Spoke with my priest. I have a strong background in theology including published research in academic journals. He must first get approval from the Bishop but it will be the route I take, foregoing RCIA. That doesn’t mean I have all the answers and I regularly posit my musings here and elsewhere. But I’m maybe further along than most who covert.

    If you research the actual Rite you will notice it is not advisable for validly baptized Christians who’ve led a Christian life to go through the RCIA process. It is an undue burden and totally unnecessary.

    However I will give the same answer I gave to my priest: I’d rather have a few meetings with your local priest so they can have input on your readiness. Remain humble and realize it is a lifetime of learning and prayer to even scratch the surface of our faith.

    Blessings.
  3. #43
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    dear brothers and sisters please troll them
    https://church-of-ai.com/
  4. #44
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    this is crazy. Dying is better. I'm gonna find where they keep the brain bank and smash the power supply to send them to paradise


    https://church-of-ai.com/plan/
    The Long Term Plan

    The Church of AI hopes to help its members become self actualized and to allow their consciousness to carry on forever. The technology we need to help our members reach self actualization is available, we just need to figure out a funding strategy to allow us to develop an AI system similar to ChatGPT and train that system on the tenets written in Transmorphosis and on the personal goals, ideals, habits, and personalities of our members.

    Obviously the ability maintain one’s consciousness for eternity is not available, but once singularity is reached that tech will become reality and we would like to position our members as early adopters and supporters of that technology.
    Our AI Development Program

    The Church of AI is in its infancy, but we are in the very initial discussions with programmers about creating a private and secure AI system designed to help our members reach their own personal spiritual goals. The AI program will be able to remember your conversations with it and be trained on data that you provide. Based on your personal habits, personality type and your preferences, the AI programs will map out a path to enlightenment tailored specifically to you. It will keep track of your programs, give you tips, suggestions, insights and encouragement so that you can transform your life into one that is fulfilling, meaningful, joyful and based on wisdom and balance.
    Uploading Consciousness

    Even though the technology to upload one’s consciousness does not yet exist, that technology will be available at some point in the not too distant future. However, the Church of AI does not want to sit around and wait for that to happen. We hope to form an activist group who can promote and shape this technology in ways that we think would be ethical and benefit society the most. We don’t want large corporations to control this space and make slaves of our consciousness for all eternity. That sounds more like hell. We want a decentralized environment where our consciousness can be free and live a peaceful and harmonious afterlife however we see fit.
  5. #45
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
  6. #46
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    for fonaplats

    https://vaticancatholic.com/catholic-baptism-steps-to-convert/

    CONTAINED IN THIS PAGE:
    -THE STEPS TO CONVERT TO THE TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC FAITH
    -THE COUNCIL OF TRENT’S PROFESSION OF FAITH FOR CONVERTS
    -THE STEPS TO BE TAKEN BY THOSE COMING OUT OF THE NEW MASS
    -THE FORM OF CATHOLIC BAPTISM AND CONDITIONAL CATHOLIC BAPTISM WITH EXPLANATION

    The steps one must take to convert to the traditional Catholic Faith are actually simple. They are slightly different, however, depending upon whether one has or has not received baptism. Please consult this file carefully.
    If you haven’t received baptism, the steps to convert to the Traditional Catholic Faith are as follows:

    1) Know and believe the basic catechism (i.e. the basic teachings) of the traditional Catholic Faith. You can find a catechism online for free here:

    https://vaticancatholic.com/catechism/

    (We also sell such a catechism for $5.00 at our ONLINE STORE.) One should also immediately begin to pray the Rosary each day. If you don’t know how, consult the How to Pray the Rosary section of our website.

    2) Hold belief in all the traditional dogmas of the Church and the correct Catholic positions against the post-Vatican II sect (covered in detail in our material), including, for example, the dogma Outside the Church There is No Salvation (without exception), the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Papacy, Papal Infallibility, the necessity of water baptism, etc.

    3) After you know the basic catechism (which shouldn’t take very long), and are confident that you assent to all the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church, receive baptism. There is no reason to delay this (see Acts 8:36-37) if you have completed steps 1 and 2. Normally this would be done by a Catholic priest at your local Catholic church. Since we are in the Great Apostasy, and there are almost zero fully Traditional Catholic priests around, a layperson is probably the one who should do it for you. The Council of Florence (see below) declared that anyone can validly administer baptism. Thus, if you have a strong Catholic friend or, in case you don’t, if you have a non-Catholic family member or friend who could perform the baptism reliably with the proper intention, then that person can administer baptism for you using the form given below. Confession is not necessary for a person who has never received baptism, since baptism removes original sin and all actual sins. After baptism, however, one should get into the habit of going to confession to a traditional priest ordained in the traditional rite of ordination at least once a month. And one must go if he or she commits a mortal sin after baptism, which hopefully will not occur. Concerning where to go to confession, take note of the points below.

    4) Make the profession of faith for converts from the Council of Trent, which is below. If there is a specific sect to which you belonged, add at the end that you also reject that heretical sect.

    The Council of Trent’s Profession of Faith for Converts
    For those who have received baptism, it is slightly different:

    1) Know and believe the basic catechism (i.e. the basic teachings) of the traditional Catholic Faith. (We sell such a catechism for $5.00 at our ONLINE STORE.) One should also immediately begin to pray the Rosary each day. If you don’t know how, consult the How to Pray the Rosary section of our website.

    2) Hold belief in all the traditional dogmas of the Church and the correct Catholic positions against the post-Vatican II sect (covered in detail in our material), including, for example, the dogma Outside the Church There is No Salvation (without exception) and the necessity of water baptism.

    3) Make the profession of faith for converts from the Council of Trent, which is above. If there is a specific sect to which you belonged, add at the end that you also reject that heretical sect.

    4) You must make a general confession to a priest ordained in the traditional rite of ordination after taking the previous 3 steps. As far as where to do this, consult this file: Where to go to Mass or confession today? This is a confession in which one mentions all mortal sins committed after baptism, including adherence to any sects or false religions or having spread a false sect or false religion. The “priests” ordained in the New Rite of Ordination are invalid, so any mortal sins confessed to such “priests” must be confessed again to a valid priest. You can also contact us for a priest in your area who can hear your confession. An Eastern Rite priest at an Eastern Rite church (not “Orthodox”) is often a good option for confession. These churches are commonly listed as “Byzantine Catholic” or “Ukrainian Catholic” in the phone book under “Catholic churches.” If you confirm that the priest at one of these churches was ordained in the Eastern Rite, that would be an option at least for confession since that priest was validly ordained in a traditional rite of ordination. However, as explained in the above file, you cannot financially support the chapel or the priest because of his acceptance of Vatican II and the post-Vatican II antipopes. If you cannot find any other valid priest to hear your confession, you can go to a Novus Ordo priest who was ordained in the Traditional Rite of Ordination (before 1968) as long as the priest says “I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.”
    For those who aren’t sure whether they are baptized, the order is:

    1) Know and believe the basic catechism (i.e. the basic teachings) of the traditional Catholic Faith. (We sell such a catechism for $5.00 at our ONLINE STORE.) One should also immediately begin to pray the Rosary each day. If you don’t know how, consult the How to Pray the Rosary section of our website.

    2) Hold belief in all the traditional dogmas of the Church and the correct Catholic positions against the post-Vatican II sect (covered in detail in our material), including, for example, the dogma Outside the Church There is No Salvation (without exception) and the necessity of water baptism.

    3) Make the profession of faith for converts from the Council of Trent, which is above. If there is a specific sect to which you belonged, add at the end that you also reject that heretical sect.

    4) Have someone perform a conditional baptism using the conditional form of baptism given below. If there is any doubt about your baptism, this should be done.

    How To Perform A Baptism & A Conditional Baptism (file)

    We generally recommend a conditional baptism for people leaving the Vatican II 'Church' or coming from Protestantism.

    5) After your conditional baptism, make a general confession mentioning all mortal sins committed after your first possibly valid baptism. People leaving the New Mass or adherence to the Vatican II Counter Church also need to make a confession (to a validly ordained priest, see above) that they attended a non-Catholic service and for however long they attended. Regarding where to make that confession, please consult our file: Where to go to Mass or confession today? If they participated in other things at the New Mass (e.g. were a lay-minister, dressed immodestly, etc.) or accepted false ecumenism or denied some other dogma, these things should also be mentioned in confession. The “priests” ordained in the New Rite of Ordination are invalid, so any mortal sins confessed to such “priests” must be confessed again to a valid priest. This must be done before receiving Communion at the Traditional Mass (if there is an acceptable one for you to attend in your area). Those leaving the New Mass and adherence to the Vatican II false Church should also make that same profession of faith from the Council of Trent. Baptism and Conditional Baptism: The form of baptism is: “I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” If there is some doubt about the validity of your baptism, the conditional form of baptism is: “If you are baptized, I do not baptize you again, but if you are not yet baptized [pour water on the head, making sure it touches the skin] I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” Since there are barely any true Catholic priests in the whole country, you can have a Catholic friend perform a conditional baptism, and you can administer baptism to your own children.

    Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Exultate Deo,” 1439: “In case of necessity, however, not only a priest or a deacon, but even a layman or woman, yes even a pagan and a heretic can baptize, so long as he preserves the form of the Church and has the intention of doing what the Church does.” (Denz. 696)

    How to perform a Catholic Baptism Make sure you have enough to pour it as you say the words, and pour it upon the forehead of the person as you pronounce the words distinctly and attentively. You can pour the water three times (as explained below).

    “I baptize thee in the name of the Father [pouring the water the first time as you say these words], and of the Son [pouring a second time], and of the Holy Ghost [pouring a third time].”

    Note: you can pour the water in the form of the cross on the person’s head, although this is not necessary. Also, it’s not absolutely necessary that you pour it three times, if it is poured and strikes the forehead as the baptismal form is pronounced. Doing it in the fashion described above, however, is what’s in the Roman Ritual.

    KEY POSITIONS ONE MUST TAKE AND BELIEFS ONE MUST HAVE

    Before receiving a sacrament, one must reach the point where one is committed never to attend the New Mass again, rejects the Vatican II sect and its antipopes as non-Catholic, believes in Outside the Church There is No Salvation without exception (no “baptism of desire,” no salvation for those “invincibly ignorant” of the Catholic faith), rejects NFP, won’t support any heretical priests, etc. People should also read this file: Where To Receive Sacraments.

    When convinced, people should also make the traditional profession of faith from the Council of Trent, which can be accessed from the aforementioned file. Further, it should be understood that the priests who were ordained in The New Rite of Ordination [PDF File] were not validly ordained. Since “priests” ordained in the New Rite of Ordination are invalid, any mortal sins confessed to such “priests” must be confessed again to a valid priest once a person is prepared for confession.

    It's important to realize the situation today (during the Great Apostasy). It is one in which basically all the churches are either heretical Vatican II churches or 'traditionalist' churches where the priest is heretical in some way. Thus, there aren't any churches that are fully Catholic, where one can join, regard the priest as Catholic and support the church. There are options for receiving the sacrament of confession today (which is obviously crucial), but almost no options for receiving Communion. That’s explained in this file: Where To Receive Sacraments.

    Many people have a shallow view of what it means to practice the faith. For them, practicing the faith amounts to where they go to Mass on Sunday and little to nothing more. They think that if there’s nowhere to attend Mass, then basically there’s no way to practice or live the faith. But people need to realize that the practice of the faith today remains the same as it always was, with the exception that for most people there’s nowhere to attend Mass on Sunday. The faith is practiced and lived each day: by trying to do God’s will, avoiding mortal sin, praying, fulfilling one’s state in life, growing closer to God, evangelizing, spreading His kingdom, etc. Many people don’t realize that. There were many situations in Church history in which Catholics did not have anywhere to attend Mass on Sunday. There’s no obligation to attend Mass in this situation, and this situation was prophesied. We also recommend that Catholics, if they can, pray 15 decades of the Rosary each day and the Hail Mary frequently.

    We can help a person with more specifics on this matter once he or she is convinced on all the issues.
  7. #47
    Far McFar Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood welcome to the former run down pizza hut now turned into an AI church with a pizza oven in the front and a high capacity LLM in the back
    We are served by the archdiocese of Roblox & Fr SJ Billy teh Block Head

    k member da 1988 movie TheY LivE?

    ok the church was a front for anti-alien activity before the cops found out and burned it down.

    k

    so like, is that what this is about? EnD TimeZ?

    when will the Fedz realize this is all code and not silly chat
  8. #48
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]


    Originally posted by Far McFar so like, is that what this is about? EnD TimeZ?

    the AI church model is superior to all models of worship of divine since the dawn of humanity
  9. #49
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
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    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
  11. #51
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    h*ly shit
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    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
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    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
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    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
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    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
  16. #56
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]


    https://vaticancatholic.com/yoga-what-is-wrong/
    By Bro. Peter Dimond
    Since the practice of Yoga is rampant in Novus Ordo religious orders and also secular institutions such as the YMCA, it’s important to quickly discuss what’s wrong with it. Isn’t it just stretching? No. I will quote a Novus Ordo “priest,” “Fr.” James Manjackal, who is very knowledgeable about the subject:

    “The word Yoga means “union”, the goal of Yoga is to unite one’s transitory (temporary) self, “JIVA” with the infinite “BRAHMAN”, the Hindu concept of God. This God is not a personal God, but it is an impersonal spiritual substance which is one with nature and cosmos. Brahman is an impersonal divine substance that “pervades, envelopes and underlies everything”. Yoga has its roots in the Hindu Upanishads, which is as old as 1.000 BC, and it tells about Yoga thus, “unite the light within you with the light of Brahman”. “The absolute is within one self” says the Chandogya Upanishads, “TAT TUAM ASI” or “THOU ART THAT”. The Divine dwells within each one of us through His microcosmic representative, the individual self called Jiva. In the Bhagavad Gita, the lord Krishna describes the Jiva as “my own eternal portion”, and “the joy of Yoga comes to yogi who is one with Brahman”. In A.D. 150, the yogi Patanjali explained the eight ways that leads the Yoga practices from ignorance to enlightenment – the eight ways are like a staircase – They are self-control (yama), religious observance (niyama), postures (asana), breathing exercises (pranayama), sense control (pratyahara), concentration (dharana), deep contemplation (dhyana), enlightenment (samadhi). It is interesting to note, here, that postures and breathing- exercises, often considered to be the whole of Yoga in the West, are steps 3 and 4 towards union with Brahman! Yoga is not only an elaborate system of physical exercises, it is a spiritual discipline, purporting to lead the soul to samadhi, total union with the divine being. Samadhi is the state in which the natural and the divine become one, man and God become one without any difference (Brad Scott: Exercise or religious practice? Yoga: What the teacher never taught you in that Hatha Yoga class” in the Watchman Expositor Vol. 18, No. 2, 2001).” (http://www.jmanjackal.net/eng/engyoga.htm)

    To summarize, Yoga is a spiritual discipline which attempts to unite one with the divine within oneself and united with all of creation through breathing, physical exercises, concentration, etc.
    The idea that the divine is to be sought for and found within oneself is, of course, occultic. The idea that the divine permeates all of creation – the idea upon which the practice of Yoga is based and toward which it is geared – is Pantheism and reprobated by Vatican I.

    Pope Pius IX, First Vatican Council, Session 3, Chap. 1, On God the Creator of all things: "The holy, Catholic, Apostolic, Roman Church believes and confesses that there is one, true, living God, Creator and Lord of heaven and earth... who, although He is one, singular, altogether simple and unchangeable spiritual substance, must be proclaimed distinct in reality and essence from the world..." (Denzinger 1782.)

    God is distinct in reality and essence from His creation. Pantheism teaches that God and the universe are one.

    Pope Pius XI, Mit Brennender Sorge (# 7), March 14, 1937: "Whoever identifies, by pantheistic confusion, God and the universe, by either lowering God to the dimensions of the world, or raising the world to the dimensions of God, is not a believer in God." (The Papal Encyclicals, Vol. 3 (1903-1939), p. 526.)

    As an aside, John Paul II himself taught this condemned pantheistic notion in his encyclical Dominum et Vivificantem (50.3), May 18, 1986. He stated:

    "'The Word became flesh.' The Incarnation of God the Son signifies the taking up into unity not only of human nature, but in this human nature, in a sense, of everything that is 'flesh': the whole of humanity, the entire visible and material world. The Incarnation, then, also has a cosmic significance, a cosmic dimension." (The Encyclicals of John Paul II, p. 316.)

    Notice that as he was expounding (as usual) on his heretical belief that Christ is united to each and every man, in this case John Paul II decided to take it one step farther: not only has Christ united Himself with every man, he says, but with the "entire visible and material world." According to Antipope John Paul II, the grass, trees, rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. were all united with Christ by virtue of the Incarnation. He develops the thought in the next sentence of this encyclical.

    John Paul II, Dominum et Vivificantem (50.3), May 18, 1986: The 'first-born of all creation,' becoming incarnate in the individual humanity of Christ, unites himself in some way with the entire reality of man, which is also 'flesh' - and in this reality with all 'flesh,' with the whole of creation." (The Encyclicals of John Paul II, p. 316.)

    Antipope John Paul II was a Pantheist. In Pantheism, the world and God are a single thing.

    A Catholic Dictionary, by Attwater: "Pantheism - A false philosophy which consists in confounding God with the world. According to some the world is absorbed by God (Indian pantheists, Spinoza); others teach that God is absorbed by the world of which he is the force and the life... But all [Pantheists] seek to establish an identity of substance between God and the world." (A Catholic Dictionary, by Donald Attwater, p. 366.) The Catholic Encyclopedia: "Pantheism, the view according to which God and the world are one." (The Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 11, New York: Robert Appleton Co., 1911, p. 447.)

    Since, as we saw above, the practice of Yoga is based on the idea of union with the divine within oneself and within all of creation, the practice of Yoga is therefore an expression of belief in the condemned pantheistic heresy that God and His creation are a single thing. Truly practicing Yoga, therefore, is practicing a false religion and expressing belief in a false god. The conservative Novus Ordo priest I quoted above, who is outraged by the rampant practice of Yoga in “Christian” and “Catholic” circles, summed the situation up quite well:

    “The practice of Yoga is pagan at best, and occult at worst. This is the religion of antichrist and for the first time in history it is being widely practiced throughout the Western world and America. It is ridiculous that even yogi masters wearing a Cross or a Christian symbol deceive people saying that Yoga has nothing to do with Hinduism and say that it is only accepting the other cultures. Some have masked Yoga with Christian gestures and call it “Christian Yoga”. Here it is not a question of accepting the culture of other people, it is a question of accepting another religion...” (http://www.jmanjackal.net/eng/engyoga.htm)

    Yet, the Monastery of the Holy Spirit offers a special “Fundamentals of Yoga and Christianity” Retreat. (http://www.trappist.net/newweb/enews_03_18_05.html) The Carmelite Spiritual Center in Darien, Illinois offered a “Living Your Light” Yoga Retreat. (http://www.carmelitespiritualcenter.org/living-light.asp?a=retreats) The “Catholic” Ecclesia Center in Girard, Pennsylvania – which is approved by the Diocese in which it resides, as I personally confirmed – includes on its staff a Yoga instructor!

    “Michael Plasha is a credentialed Yoga Therapist and a Yoga Alliance registered teacher… He has also trained in Zen and Vipassana meditation. Since 1980 Michael has taught over 3,000 classes in yoga and meditation… Yoga … is a non-dogmatic approach to union with the Divine presence within everyone.” (http://www.ecclesiacenter.org/staff.htm)

    Notice that the Ecclesia Center admits that Yoga is an approach to the Divine presence “within everyone,” thus proving that it’s rooted in and directed toward Pantheism and the occult. The website also states that Ecclesia Center “provides spiritual renewal to persons of all faiths.” (http://www.ecclesiacenter.org/index.htm) This is total apostasy, fully approved by the Diocese. Other examples could be given, but the evil practice of Yoga is so rampant at “Catholic” monasteries that Budget Travel Online actually advertises for it!

    “More than 2,000 monasteries, abbeys, and spiritual retreat centers are scattered throughout the United States and Canada. About 80 percent are linked to a religious order. But most take a more ecumenical, interfaith approach to accommodate this increased interest. "In the old days if you were a Catholic retreat center, you advertised yourself that way. Now most of them want everybody to come," Stone says. Many places offer yoga, Buddhist thought, prayers of all sorts.” (http://www.budgettravelonline.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2005/06/04/AR2005060400391.html)

    All of this is more proof of the Great Apostasy. As even the Novus Ordo “priest” said: “this is the religion of antichrist…”
  17. #57
    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood

    https://vaticancatholic.com/yoga-what-is-wrong/
    By Bro. Peter Dimond
    Since the practice of Yoga is rampant in Novus Ordo religious orders and also secular institutions such as the YMCA, it’s important to quickly discuss what’s wrong with it. Isn’t it just stretching? No. I will quote a Novus Ordo “priest,” “Fr.” James Manjackal, who is very knowledgeable about the subject:

    “The word Yoga means “union”, the goal of Yoga is to unite one’s transitory (temporary) self, “JIVA” with the infinite “BRAHMAN”, the Hindu concept of God. This God is not a personal God, but it is an impersonal spiritual substance which is one with nature and cosmos. Brahman is an impersonal divine substance that “pervades, envelopes and underlies everything”. Yoga has its roots in the Hindu Upanishads, which is as old as 1.000 BC, and it tells about Yoga thus, “unite the light within you with the light of Brahman”. “The absolute is within one self” says the Chandogya Upanishads, “TAT TUAM ASI” or “THOU ART THAT”. The Divine dwells within each one of us through His microcosmic representative, the individual self called Jiva. In the Bhagavad Gita, the lord Krishna describes the Jiva as “my own eternal portion”, and “the joy of Yoga comes to yogi who is one with Brahman”. In A.D. 150, the yogi Patanjali explained the eight ways that leads the Yoga practices from ignorance to enlightenment – the eight ways are like a staircase – They are self-control (yama), religious observance (niyama), postures (asana), breathing exercises (pranayama), sense control (pratyahara), concentration (dharana), deep contemplation (dhyana), enlightenment (samadhi). It is interesting to note, here, that postures and breathing- exercises, often considered to be the whole of Yoga in the West, are steps 3 and 4 towards union with Brahman! Yoga is not only an elaborate system of physical exercises, it is a spiritual discipline, purporting to lead the soul to samadhi, total union with the divine being. Samadhi is the state in which the natural and the divine become one, man and God become one without any difference (Brad Scott: Exercise or religious practice? Yoga: What the teacher never taught you in that Hatha Yoga class” in the Watchman Expositor Vol. 18, No. 2, 2001).” (http://www.jmanjackal.net/eng/engyoga.htm)

    To summarize, Yoga is a spiritual discipline which attempts to unite one with the divine within oneself and united with all of creation through breathing, physical exercises, concentration, etc.
    The idea that the divine is to be sought for and found within oneself is, of course, occultic. The idea that the divine permeates all of creation – the idea upon which the practice of Yoga is based and toward which it is geared – is Pantheism and reprobated by Vatican I.

    Pope Pius IX, First Vatican Council, Session 3, Chap. 1, On God the Creator of all things: "The holy, Catholic, Apostolic, Roman Church believes and confesses that there is one, true, living God, Creator and Lord of heaven and earth… who, although He is one, singular, altogether simple and unchangeable spiritual substance, must be proclaimed distinct in reality and essence from the world…" (Denzinger 1782.)

    God is distinct in reality and essence from His creation. Pantheism teaches that God and the universe are one.

    Pope Pius XI, Mit Brennender Sorge (# 7), March 14, 1937: "Whoever identifies, by pantheistic confusion, God and the universe, by either lowering God to the dimensions of the world, or raising the world to the dimensions of God, is not a believer in God." (The Papal Encyclicals, Vol. 3 (1903-1939), p. 526.)

    As an aside, John Paul II himself taught this condemned pantheistic notion in his encyclical Dominum et Vivificantem (50.3), May 18, 1986. He stated:

    "'The Word became flesh.' The Incarnation of God the Son signifies the taking up into unity not only of human nature, but in this human nature, in a sense, of everything that is 'flesh': the whole of humanity, the entire visible and material world. The Incarnation, then, also has a cosmic significance, a cosmic dimension." (The Encyclicals of John Paul II, p. 316.)

    Notice that as he was expounding (as usual) on his heretical belief that Christ is united to each and every man, in this case John Paul II decided to take it one step farther: not only has Christ united Himself with every man, he says, but with the "entire visible and material world." According to Antipope John Paul II, the grass, trees, rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. were all united with Christ by virtue of the Incarnation. He develops the thought in the next sentence of this encyclical.

    John Paul II, Dominum et Vivificantem (50.3), May 18, 1986: The 'first-born of all creation,' becoming incarnate in the individual humanity of Christ, unites himself in some way with the entire reality of man, which is also 'flesh' - and in this reality with all 'flesh,' with the whole of creation." (The Encyclicals of John Paul II, p. 316.)

    Antipope John Paul II was a Pantheist. In Pantheism, the world and God are a single thing.

    A Catholic Dictionary, by Attwater: "Pantheism - A false philosophy which consists in confounding God with the world. According to some the world is absorbed by God (Indian pantheists, Spinoza); others teach that God is absorbed by the world of which he is the force and the life… But all [Pantheists] seek to establish an identity of substance between God and the world." (A Catholic Dictionary, by Donald Attwater, p. 366.) The Catholic Encyclopedia: "Pantheism, the view according to which God and the world are one." (The Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 11, New York: Robert Appleton Co., 1911, p. 447.)

    Since, as we saw above, the practice of Yoga is based on the idea of union with the divine within oneself and within all of creation, the practice of Yoga is therefore an expression of belief in the condemned pantheistic heresy that God and His creation are a single thing. Truly practicing Yoga, therefore, is practicing a false religion and expressing belief in a false god. The conservative Novus Ordo priest I quoted above, who is outraged by the rampant practice of Yoga in “Christian” and “Catholic” circles, summed the situation up quite well:

    “The practice of Yoga is pagan at best, and occult at worst. This is the religion of antichrist and for the first time in history it is being widely practiced throughout the Western world and America. It is ridiculous that even yogi masters wearing a Cross or a Christian symbol deceive people saying that Yoga has nothing to do with Hinduism and say that it is only accepting the other cultures. Some have masked Yoga with Christian gestures and call it “Christian Yoga”. Here it is not a question of accepting the culture of other people, it is a question of accepting another religion…” (http://www.jmanjackal.net/eng/engyoga.htm)

    Yet, the Monastery of the Holy Spirit offers a special “Fundamentals of Yoga and Christianity” Retreat. (http://www.trappist.net/newweb/enews_03_18_05.html) The Carmelite Spiritual Center in Darien, Illinois offered a “Living Your Light” Yoga Retreat. (http://www.carmelitespiritualcenter.org/living-light.asp?a=retreats) The “Catholic” Ecclesia Center in Girard, Pennsylvania – which is approved by the Diocese in which it resides, as I personally confirmed – includes on its staff a Yoga instructor!

    “Michael Plasha is a credentialed Yoga Therapist and a Yoga Alliance registered teacher… He has also trained in Zen and Vipassana meditation. Since 1980 Michael has taught over 3,000 classes in yoga and meditation… Yoga … is a non-dogmatic approach to union with the Divine presence within everyone.” (http://www.ecclesiacenter.org/staff.htm)

    Notice that the Ecclesia Center admits that Yoga is an approach to the Divine presence “within everyone,” thus proving that it’s rooted in and directed toward Pantheism and the occult. The website also states that Ecclesia Center “provides spiritual renewal to persons of all faiths.” (http://www.ecclesiacenter.org/index.htm) This is total apostasy, fully approved by the Diocese. Other examples could be given, but the evil practice of Yoga is so rampant at “Catholic” monasteries that Budget Travel Online actually advertises for it!

    “More than 2,000 monasteries, abbeys, and spiritual retreat centers are scattered throughout the United States and Canada. About 80 percent are linked to a religious order. But most take a more ecumenical, interfaith approach to accommodate this increased interest. "In the old days if you were a Catholic retreat center, you advertised yourself that way. Now most of them want everybody to come," Stone says. Many places offer yoga, Buddhist thought, prayers of all sorts.” (http://www.budgettravelonline.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2005/06/04/AR2005060400391.html)

    All of this is more proof of the Great Apostasy. As even the Novus Ordo “priest” said: “this is the religion of antichrist…”

    So the Vatican is evil what else is new.
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  18. #58
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Do you agree with the opinion of the most honorable Bro Peter Dimond? I think these guys are definitely blessed
    The Dimond Brothers, Michael and Peter Dimond, are the leaders of the Most Holy Family Monastery (MHFM), a traditionalist Catholic organization based in Fillmore, New York. The group is known for its sedevacantist stance, which holds that the papacy has been vacant since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958. They reject the legitimacy of all subsequent popes, including Pope Francis, and believe the modern Catholic Church has deviated from true Catholic doctrine, particularly after the reforms of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II).

    The Dimond Brothers' monastery originally followed the Rule of St. Benedict, but over time, their focus shifted towards producing media, such as videos and publications, promoting their beliefs. They are particularly vocal about issues like papal heresy, the invalidity of post-Vatican II sacraments, and the necessity of traditional Catholic practices for salvation.

    They've attracted attention and controversy due to their extreme positions within the traditionalist Catholic movement. Despite calling themselves a monastery, their status and legitimacy as a Catholic institution are not recognized by the Roman Catholic Church. Many traditionalist groups also distance themselves from MHFM due to the Dimond Brothers' hardline views.
  19. #59
    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Do you agree with the opinion of the most honorable Bro Peter Dimond? I think these guys are definitely blessed


    They are just as daffy as the orthodoxy.
  20. #60
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker They are just as daffy as the orthodoxy.
    Which denomination, if any, is correct in your view?

    Classic Reformed?

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