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  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson … they only get funded if they "agree" with the premise…that makes them compromised from the very beginning.

    This is demonstratably not true. See this article:

    Originally posted by Obbe In case you forgot:

    They KNEW: Exxon made ‘breathtakingly’ accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s

    Do you believe they reached the conclusions Exxon wanted them to reach?
  2. Obbe still doesn't have a clue what an independent source is. He's still confused.
  3. "Some companies paid doctors to claim their cigarettes were somehow “healthier” than the competition [4]. This history exposes how disingenuous marketing and fake research can mislead the public for decades. "
  4. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson "Some companies paid doctors to claim their cigarettes were somehow “healthier” than the competition [4]. This history exposes how disingenuous marketing and fake research can mislead the public for decades. "

    So you believe Exxon paid their scientists to make up claims and predictions (which have now become our reality) against their own financial interests?

    You are a clown.
  5. Originally posted by Obbe So you believe Exxon paid their scientists to make up claims and predictions (which have now become our reality) against their own financial interests?

    You are a clown.

    How is that related to the conversation we were having Obbe? when you run out of steam you attempt to steer the debate in another direction..you've done it several times in this thread

    As for who is the clown, you just asked me your assumption, then applied it to me as if it was fact.

    Really obbe, really...
  6. the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Big oil does that
  7. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson How is that related to the conversation we were having Obbe? when you run out of steam you attempt to steer the debate in another direction..you've done it several times in this thread

  8. Great comeback kid, stay in school
  9. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Great comeback kid, stay in school

  10. A would be counter to being surely...though perhaps in your illogical world...

  11. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
  12. Originally posted by Obbe

    Once again you change the topic of conversation!
  13. Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson "Some companies paid doctors to claim their cigarettes were somehow “healthier” than the competition [4]. This history exposes how disingenuous marketing and fake research can mislead the public for decades. "

    All the so-called "experts" of the day insisted up and down the data proved beyond doubt Thalidomide was perfectly safe, and you were labeled a fraudster and a kook if you dared disagree. They spent millions of dollars fighting the "kooks". Thousands of deformed babies later, they've all slunk back into the shadows. Then you have hopeless dummies like Obbe, who kiss the boots of the "experts" day after day after day, but still don't even understand what the terms unbiased, independent and conflict of interest means.
  14. the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ All the so-called "experts" of the day insisted up and down the data proved beyond doubt Thalidomide was perfectly safe, and you were labeled a fraudster and a kook if you dared disagree. They spent millions of dollars fighting the "kooks". Thousands of deformed babies later, they've all slunk back into the shadows. Then you have hopeless dummies like Obbe, who kiss the boots of the "experts" day after day after day, but still don't even understand what the terms unbiased, independent and conflict of interest means.

    daily reminder that Thalidomide is used as an example constantly be people that believe WE WOULD ALL BE DEAD IF IT WASN'T FOR GOVERNMENT REGULATION!!! SEE!!! SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET A COMPANY MAKE THE RULES AND CONTROL EVERYTHIGN THEY POLLUTE THE PLANET AND KILL BABIES!!!!

    except if you try to find any modern examples of that happening there are none. WELL THAT'S BECAUSE GOVERNMENT REGULATION PREVENTED IT FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN!! CHECK AND MATE.

    Except that's not the full story and in fact industry self regulation is the standard nowadays with most companies making up the boards of industry safety standards themselves with the government not in a primary role, they are just overseeing what industry is doing, and yet according to regulationists this is proof that we NEED government regulation, even though it has been determined by THE STATE and MARKET that the best solution is industry self regulation.

    Maybe it took government regulations to get to where we are now, but the idea that this practice is some sort of market dogma is insane and only used to control emerging technologies like AI and crypto and keep it in the hands of the 1% of red tape big bank global regulators who do not have the best interests of the market in mind
  15. Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood …except if you try to find any modern examples of that happening there are none. WELL THAT'S BECAUSE GOVERNMENT REGULATION PREVENTED IT FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN!! CHECK AND MATE. …

    Sure there is. "Safe and effective". A total fraud. Never even designed to prevent transmission. And they let them police themselves. And now it's causing millions of people to drop dead all over the place, like flies. No accountability. All for profit. They have the means, the motive and opportunity, just like they did with the thalidomide.
  16. the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Even the industry experts didn't want to approve the covid vax but the government said "lol, what safety concerns?" and legalized it anyways and completely bypassed the normal 5-10 year FDA research and develop timeframe in Operation "Warp Speed" and Donald Trump had his hands in the pie just like big pharma who did it for $$$$$



    they are all complicit and evil
  17. I think Trump is the actual anti-Christ. The giveaway was when he hugged the flag. Hugging a flag is a form of idolatry, which God detests just about more than anything else. A little slip of a tell that was spontaneous and unscripted.

    "While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

    "At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. See, I have told you in advance. … So if they tell you, ‘There he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather."
  18. the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ I think Trump is the actual anti-Christ.

    mfw when he loses again

  19. People have to remember that God Himself authorized Satan to be the King of the entire Earth and everything in it, for the test of Man, and only for a duration that only He knows. Satan controls practically everything. He delights in his God-given power. That's why Satan took Jesus up to the top of an unusually high mountain, a place where the view was monumental, and offered him all the kingdoms of the world if he would only bow down and render a single act of worship to him. He revels in his might and power, and wanted Jesus to acknowledge his kingship. But Jesus said, "Get behind me, Satan, for it is written, 'It is to Jehovah alone we must render sacred service.'" Then Satan departed, satisfied he had made his point. So when we see these "saviors" appear, who are apparently totally genuine in every respect, we have to remember who's really controlling things and events, on his own home turf, no less. This world belongs to Satan the Devil, and you are his enemy. Satan can charm, just like God. He can make bullets whizz past ears just as good as the next alien. The Father of the Lie, no less. He's tricky. He's been around the block a few times. He knows all the angles.
  20. Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ People have to remember that God Himself authorized Satan to be the King of the entire Earth and everything in it, for the test of Man, and only for a duration that only He knows. Satan controls practically everything. He delights in his God-given power. That's why Satan took Jesus up to the top of an unusually high mountain, a place where the view was monumental, and offered him all the kingdoms of the world if he would only bow down and render a single act of worship to him. He revels in his might and power, and wanted Jesus to acknowledge his kingship. But Jesus said, "Get behind me, Satan, for it is written, 'It is to Jehovah alone we must render sacred service.'" Then Satan departed, satisfied he had made his point. So when we see these "saviors" appear, who are apparently totally genuine in every respect, we have to remember who's really controlling things and events, on his own home turf, no less. This world belongs to Satan the Devil, and you are his enemy. Satan can charm, just like God. He can make bullets whizz past ears just as good as the next alien. The Father of the Lie, no less. He's tricky. He's been around the block a few times. He knows all the angles.

    Being president of the USA isn't being king of the world
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