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Global Surface Temperatures Are Rising Faster Now Than At Any Time In The Past 485 Million Years
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2024-09-24 at 4:13 PM UTC
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2024-09-24 at 4:23 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-09-24 at 4:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Scientific laws are just concepts created by humans trying to understand reality.
No they are not just "concepts" they are laws that can be demonstrated over and over again...hence it is a "scientific law".
ETA: and those laws were in place long before humans were around...orbital laws for example didn't just appear after we didThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-09-24 at 5:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson No they are not just "concepts" they are laws that can be demonstrated over and over again…hence it is a "scientific law".
For now.
There is absolutely nothing stopping those "laws" from changing in the future... because they aren't really laws, laws are just a concept created by people trying to understand what reality is. And reality just is what it is and there is nothing it is intending to be, should be, or needs to be. -
2024-09-24 at 5:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe For now.
There is absolutely nothing stopping those "laws" from changing in the future… because they aren't really laws, laws are just a concept created by people trying to understand what reality is. And reality just is what it is and there is nothing it is intending to be, should be, or needs to be.
Again no...laws are not just concepts created by people (people simply created the way to communicate those laws in understandable terms)...scietnific laws are well defined behaviors that can be replicated and demonstrated over and over and over...again orbital laws were in place long before life on Earth existed...life on Earth wouldn't be here without them!The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-09-24 at 5:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Again no…laws are not just concepts created by people (people simply created the way to communicate those laws in understandable terms)…scietnific laws are well defined behaviors that can be replicated and demonstrated over and over and over…again orbital laws were in place long before life on Earth existed…life on Earth wouldn't be here without them!
Again there is nothing stopping those "laws" from changing in the future; and they could have been different in the past as well! -
2024-09-24 at 5:15 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-09-24 at 5:19 PM UTC
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2024-09-24 at 5:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson ^ this is pure speculation and not a "scientific law"…it's a concept based on …nothing
I never said it was a scientific law. I said there is nothing stopping "scientific laws" from changing in the future, and that they could have been different in the past as well. That statement is absolutely true. -
2024-09-24 at 5:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe I never said it was a scientific law. I said there is nothing stopping "scientific laws" from changing in the future, and that they could have been different in the past as well. That statement is absolutely true.
The statement "there is nothing stopping "scientific laws" from changing" is the problem here, you have absolutely nothing to support that statement...it's pure speculation. Speculation doesn't "trump" scientific law. -
2024-09-24 at 5:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson The statement "there is nothing stopping "scientific laws" from changing" is the problem here, you have absolutely nothing to support that statement…it's pure speculation. Speculation doesn't "trump" scientific law.
If you are looking for a statement with lots of scientific support, check this one out:
Originally posted by Obbe "It is a statement of fact, we cannot be any more certain; it is unequivocal and indisputable that humans are warming the planet."
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2024-09-24 at 5:32 PM UTCNot relevant to the discussion Obbe..but nice try.
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2024-09-24 at 5:36 PM UTC
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2024-09-24 at 5:39 PM UTC
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2024-09-24 at 5:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Maybe…so please explain how a bullshit paid for document created by biased people is relevant to universal and scientific laws independent of human involvement
First please explain how that document is bullshit and not actually a representation of how humans use the scientific process to reach conclusions about their reality. -
2024-09-24 at 5:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe First please explain how that document is bullshit and not actually a representation of how humans use the scientific process to reach conclusions about their reality.
I and others have already explained how scientists rely on funding for their research and they only get funded if they "agree" with the premise...that makes them compromised from the very beginning.
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2024-09-24 at 5:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I and others have already explained how scientists rely on funding for their research and they only get funded if they "agree" with the premise…that makes them compromised from the very beginning.
Yet the same process is used to determine "scientific laws", does that mean all scientific laws are compromised for the exact same reasons? -
2024-09-24 at 5:54 PM UTC
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2024-09-24 at 5:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Yet the same process is used to determine "scientific laws", does that mean all scientific laws are compromised for the exact same reasons?
Um no, you're not paying attention, scientific laws have been in place before humans even existed...orbital laws, laws of thermodynamics, laws of gravity etc etc...
Bullshit reports made by compromised humans..not in the same ballpark kidThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-09-24 at 6:06 PM UTCHow the climate changes follows "rules" and "laws" exactly like gravity or thermodynamics do. A climate scientists report on what he discovered by studying things is no different that a physicists report on what he discovered by studying things.
