Black people invented Reason

1. 2024-07-29 at 3:09 PM UTC

   #21
   Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

   Originally posted by Elbow An understandable mistake for a savage Yakubian white devil to make, but there is another definition for "reason":
   
   I feel that by saying "the ability to reason" in the OP (if not by capitalizing "Reason" in the thread title), I made it clear that this is what I was referring to.

   
   i c no reasonable reason to reason it that way
2. 2024-07-29 at 3:18 PM UTC

   #22
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

   Originally posted by Elbow A black man invented the ability to reason. You might disagree. You might even have some evidence to the contrary. But you have to ask yourself: is this really worth losing my job over? A black man invented the ability to reason.

   
   Animals could reason before Modern man even showed up.
3. 2024-07-29 at 3:24 PM UTC

   #23
   Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

   Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Animals could reason before Modern man even showed up.

   
   reason or instinct ?
4. 2024-07-29 at 3:29 PM UTC

   #24
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole
   Reason...Ravens/squirrels etc have demonstrated their reasoning skills many times by solving complex "problems".
   
   
5. 2024-07-29 at 3:33 PM UTC

   #25
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole
   ..granted the raven is black...
6. 2024-07-29 at 3:37 PM UTC

   #26
   Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

   Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Reason…Ravens/squirrels etc have demonstrated their reasoning skills many times by solving complex "problems".
   
   

   
   thats intuition, not reasoning.
7. 2024-07-29 at 3:39 PM UTC

   #27
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

   Originally posted by Charles Ex Machina thats intuition, not reasoning.

   
   Lol no, solving puzzles is reasoning not intuition
   
   "If I do this, that happens, then if I do that, this happens"...that's reasoning.
   
   "rea·son·ing
   /ˈrēzəniNG,ˈrēzniNG/
   
   the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.
8. 2024-07-29 at 3:41 PM UTC

   #28
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole
   "One recent study claims that by four months old, ravens have full-blown cognitive skills and before reaching full maturity they can rival adult great apes. Another, indicates that problem-solving crows perform similarly to children under seven years of age."
9. 2024-07-29 at 3:48 PM UTC

   #29
   Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

   Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Lol no, solving puzzles is reasoning not intuition
   
   "If I do this, that happens, then if I do that, this happens"…that's reasoning.
   
   "rea·son·ing
   /ˈrēzəniNG,ˈrēzniNG/
   
   the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.

   
   
   
   the bird was shown how to get the food out of the plastic box. it then follows what was observed and reenact it.
   
   saying thats a reasoning skill is like claiming dogs that use the crosswalks to cross busy streets have plato-tier reasoning skills when its just animal instinct to observe and emulate what works and avoid what doesnt.
10. 2024-07-29 at 3:50 PM UTC

    #30
    Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson "One recent study claims that by four months old, ravens have full-blown cognitive skills and before reaching full maturity they can rival adult great apes. Another, indicates that problem-solving crows perform similarly to children under seven years of age."

    
    claimes.
    
    
    
    a reasonable person would know claims are not equal to proven.
11. 2024-07-29 at 4:05 PM UTC

    #31
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole
    
    
    "They Can Solve Puzzles Because there was no opportunity for the birds to be confronted with a similar problem in the wild, the simplest explanation is that they were able to imagine the possibilities and to perform the appropriate behaviors."
12. 2024-07-29 at 4:06 PM UTC

    #32
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

    Originally posted by Charles Ex Machina claimes.
    
    
    
    a reasonable person would know claims are not equal to proven.

    
    Everything is a claim...
    
    You can't PROVE you're not living in a simulation for example but you can CLAIM it.
13. 2024-07-29 at 4:07 PM UTC

    #33
    Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson
    
    "They Can Solve Puzzles Because there was no opportunity for the birds to be confronted with a similar problem in the wild, the simplest explanation is that they were able to imagine the possibilities and to perform the appropriate behaviors."

    
    any reasonable person who watched it would come to the reasonable conclusion that the bird was coached before hand
14. 2024-07-29 at 4:08 PM UTC

    #34
    Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Everything is a claim…
    
    You can't PROVE you're not living in a simulation for example but you can CLAIM it.

    
    you cant prove your intelligent either
15. 2024-07-29 at 4:08 PM UTC

    #35
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

    Originally posted by Charles Ex Machina any reasonable person who watched it would come to the reasonable conclusion that the bird was coached before hand

    
    Anyone with any reasoning skill would be aware of countless experiments conducted where there was no coaching...rather than assuming the 1 video I posted is the entirety of evidence
    
    The raven has more reasoning skills than you do
16. 2024-07-29 at 4:09 PM UTC

    #36
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

    Originally posted by Charles Ex Machina you cant prove your intelligent either

    
    I have no need to, it's readily apparent
17. 2024-07-29 at 4:11 PM UTC

    #37
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole
    Squirrels are also problem solvers, reasoning is required to solve problems...there's countless videos of them solving mazes, and "gauntlets" to get to the "prize"...no coaching of wild animals required...rats too.
    
    ..and lets not forget dolphins.
18. 2024-07-29 at 4:13 PM UTC

    #38
    Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Anyone with any reasoning skill would be aware of countless experiments conducted where there was no coaching…rather than assuming the 1 video I posted is the entirety of evidence
    
    The raven has more reasoning skills than you do

    
    when men fails to reason, they turn to cope as second choice
19. 2024-07-29 at 4:14 PM UTC

    #39
    Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson reasoning is required to solve problems

    
    no its not.
20. 2024-07-29 at 4:15 PM UTC

    #40
    Charles Ex Machina Space Nigga

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I have no need to, it's readily apparent

    
    if its apparent then it can be proven.
    
    yes ?