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My Theory on UFO/UAPs
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2024-07-25 at 9:36 PM UTCMe and Star Trek talked extensively about this topic. At the pub.
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2024-07-25 at 9:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Lanny You played the co-conspirator in this. you just say this to save face but you seem to have countered on my statement. you have at least a small belief they exist.
I feel they're some form of spiritual not of this physical world or universe. somewhere out in the metaverse the ancients stated as Fallen Angels.
and the Government is using it to deflect current political objectives they're involved in. a side show of smoke and mirrors of some event or the fact they themselves used unmanned UAPs to test pilots, those were video taped and so they're going with the possibility something is out there. (aliens) and it also helps fund research they can reappropriate towards some dark-op in the guise of UAP research.
but I doubt they're little grey or green guys. how boring for them to come to earth. Planet Earth is a ghetto. who goes to visit a ghetto if they're more advanced and refined?
are they slumming it?
The real aliens ARE the fallen angels, but many are good. There are a lot more good aliens than bad aliens. There are only about 200-300 bad aliens, the rebels, whereas there are billions of good aliens. The Book of Enoch recounts how 200 of the angels who rebelled were thrown out of heaven and cut off from God. Most likely, a few more were added since then and also thrown out, so the number is probably close to 300 or less. All the evil and suffering and death you see in the world right now is being perpetrated by less than 300 rebellious angels, but their technological capability and their quantity of knowledge is formidable. Even when the legions of good angels and the handful of rebellious angels fought, the bad aliens were winning. Only when the archangel Michael joined the battle, the most powerful of the all the archangels, were they driven down to the vicinity of the Earth once more.
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2024-07-25 at 9:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Lanny You played the co-conspirator in this. you just say this to save face but you seem to have countered on my statement. you have at least a small belief they exist.
belief isn’t the word. i’m not closed off to it. it’s not physically impossible and there is enough tertiary evidence available that the problem warrants further examination. -
2024-07-25 at 9:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The real aliens ARE the fallen angels, but many are good. There are a lot more good aliens than bad aliens. There are only about 200-300 bad aliens, the rebels, whereas there are billions of good aliens. The Book of Enoch recounts how 200 of the angels who rebelled were thrown out of heaven and cut off from God. Most likely, a few more were added since then and also thrown out, so the number is probably close to 300 or less. All the evil and suffering and death you see in the world right now is being perpetrated by less than 300 rebellious angels, but their technological capability and their quantity of knowledge is formidable. Even when the legions of good angels and the handful of rebellious angels fought, the bad aliens were winning. Only when the archangel Michael joined the battle, the most powerful of the all the archangels, were they driven down to the vicinity of the Earth once more.
https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/index.htm
Heaven had 1/3rd of the Angels follow Satan. I'm sure there was more than 600 Angels in Heaven -
2024-07-25 at 9:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Lanny Heaven had 1/3rd of the Angels follow Satan. I'm sure there was more than 600 Angels in Heaven
https://carm.org/about-angels/where-in-the-bible-does-it-say-that-one-third-of-the-angels-fell/
There isn’t a verse in the Bible that explicitly says one-third of the angels fell. But generally, this view is based on a passage in the Book of Revelation dealing with the great red dragon that many Christian commentators believe references the devil. It says a third of the stars were swept away and went to earth.
“And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child,” (Revelation 12:4).
Stars are often used in Jewish literature symbolically to refer to angels since both the stars and the angels can in different senses be called “the hosts of heaven.” The Book of Revelation seems to possibly use this kind of imagery in other passages, for example, when writing to the seven churches at the beginning of the book, seven stars are seen in Jesus’ hand. It then explains:
“The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches,” (Revelation 1:20b).
Or when the fifth trumpet is blown, we are told that:
“I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him,” (Revelation 9:1b).
This fallen “star” is described in personal terms and may also refer to an angel.
The Book of Revelation also refers to stars in other passages in ways that cannot be understood as angels, however, and so Christian commentators interpret the “one-third of the stars” in Revelation 12:4 in a variety of ways. The Bible, therefore, may or may not support the idea that one-third of the angels fell with Satan, depending on precisely what John meant in Revelation 12:4. -
2024-07-25 at 9:55 PM UTC
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2024-07-25 at 10:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Lanny but I doubt they're little grey or green guys. how boring for them to come to earth. Planet Earth is a ghetto. who goes to visit a ghetto if they're more advanced and refined?
are they slumming it?
i am not inclined to infer that there are physical entities existing here separate from the crafts themselves. either the crafts ARE the aliens, or they are fully autonomous and not “conscious” as we know it.
out of the hierarchy of various possibilities of what “they” are, if we go down the ET branch, i think the most likely is the latter, they are drones.
assuming it’s an intelligence that evolved in its own planetary system similar to ours and created a technology which renders distance arbitrary, why bother going anywhere? would you visit 100,000,000,000 other worlds at various stages of development or would you just send a fleet everywhere at once and siphon the data back to where you are now.
it’s difficult to conceptualize what a consciousness capable of these things would be motivated by. certainly not conquest. they are probably too busy trying to solve real problems like the heat death of the universe, creating their own realities, or accessing higher dimensions etc to bother with this world any longer outside of simple observation and cataloguing.
i don’t know that this explanation accounts for all of the observed behavior but it’s a working theory -
2024-07-25 at 10:03 PM UTC
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2024-07-25 at 10:05 PM UTC
Originally posted by Morshoo i am not inclined to infer that there are physical entities existing here separate from the crafts themselves. either the crafts ARE the aliens, or they are fully autonomous and not “conscious” as we know it.
Naturally Born Entities that exist which breath and eat or they're AI Drones with sentient ability and visiting to take notes and send back to their creators? -
2024-07-25 at 10:18 PM UTCReality as we know it is all part of a gigantic computer program, with atoms instead of pixels. So when you experience things, that is a direct, or indirect, result of the code the computer is running. The code is constantly being updated, edited and deleted as well, in real time. It's not hard to create a monster in the matrix. All you have to do is know how to write it and program it in. You program it in and then it "exists". You remove the programming and it disappears.
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2024-07-25 at 10:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Reality as we know it is all part of a gigantic computer program, with atoms instead of pixels. So when you experience things, that is a direct, or indirect, result of the code the computer is running. The code is constantly being updated, edited and deleted as well, in real time. It's not hard to create a monster in the matrix. All you have to do is know how to write it and program it in. You program it in and then it "exists". You remove the programming and it disappears.
wtf goes on in that looney tunes brain of yours, being you must be an absolute horror -
2024-07-25 at 10:24 PM UTCThe "third of the stars" could very well represent congregations, rather than individuals. We just don't know. We do know the Federation of Planets contains various classes and species of intelligent life forms, so the "third of the stars" could refer to those groups of classes and species, rather than the individuals in those groups. We don't know. There's not enough information out there right now to know.
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2024-07-25 at 10:25 PM UTC
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2024-07-25 at 10:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The "third of the stars" could very well represent congregations, rather than individuals. We just don't know. We do know the Federation of Planets contains various classes and species of intelligent life forms, so the "third of the stars" could refer to those groups of classes and species, rather than the individuals in those groups. We don't know. There's not enough information out there right now to know.
now wait a minute that’s star trek -
2024-07-25 at 10:31 PM UTCAliens are defininitely real. The evidence is overwhelming at this pointThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-07-25 at 10:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Morshoo now wait a minute that’s star trek
All of Roddenberry's stuff came true. He was obviously conversing with the aliens. The "warp field", the "communicators", the "computers", the "phasers", the "medbeds", the "teleporters"... it all came true, because it always was true. Just recently, they've been able to move a particle through a quantum field and move it from point A to point B in zero elapsed time. -
2024-07-25 at 11:14 PM UTCim an alien so approach my space doors with caution
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2024-07-26 at 12:12 AM UTC
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2024-07-26 at 12:13 AM UTCThere will be a faked alien in invasion this year.
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2024-07-26 at 12:14 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
