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2024-07-06 at 5:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist Btw you completely misunderstood what I was saying Alder
Was not suggesting imposing western values on others at all
I didn't say that you did, just that the destruction of their countries and the imposition of western 'values' are primary drivers behind mass immigration.
if you want to survive as a country you need to both protect the country's borders and interests as well as ending those drivers.
it's created too big of a disparity, where one side actively benefits from the cannibalisation of the other, so of course you're going to end up with hordes of retards trying to escape the sinking ship -
2024-07-06 at 5:27 AM UTCit's obvious even after several generations that they do not want the same things as you, and allowing demographics to shift so dramatically will end with you living in a country of their design.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-07-06 at 5:28 AM UTC
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2024-07-06 at 5:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas I didn't say that you did, just that the destruction of their countries and the imposition of western 'values' are primary drivers behind mass immigration.
if you want to survive as a country you need to both protect the country's borders and interests as well as ending those drivers.
it's created too big of a disparity, where one side actively benefits from the cannibalisation of the other, so of course you're going to end up with hordes of retards trying to escape the sinking ship
What the fuck are you on about? They don't want to assimilate or adopt western values. -
2024-07-06 at 5:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dirtbag What was crazy about nazi Germany?
nothing, support for the nazis was a result of the massive depression after WWI, the insane corruption and depravity of the Weimar government and violent communist groups in the 20s and 30s.
the popular talking point though is that the nazis came to power and controlled the population and made them hate J'ews for no reason, which is a similar argument Narc is making here - Muslim countries don't want to be Muslim, it's just the governments and religious leadership controlling them.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-07-06 at 5:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dirtbag What the fuck are you on about? They don't want to assimilate or adopt western values.
that's more or less what I said.
they're constantly bombarded with both messaging that 'life in the west is so good, you should be like us!' as well as actual bombs, which encourages many of them to immigrate for purely material reasons.
but they're not the same as you and don't want the same things as you, so as your demographics change, so does your country.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-07-06 at 5:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas nothing, support for the nazis was a result of the massive depression after WWI, the insane corruption and depravity of the Weimar government and violent communist groups in the 20s and 30s.
the popular talking point though is that the nazis came to power and controlled the population and made them hate J'ews for no reason, which is a similar argument Narc is making here - Muslim countries don't want to be Muslim, it's just the governments and religious leadership controlling them.
I can't tell if you're trolling. The Weimar constitution was the most democratic one in Europe at the time. The depravity you're talking about was jazz music and women wearing trousers and smoking. Inflation had already gone down by the time Hitler was elected and I have no words for muslim countries not wanting to me muslim. -
2024-07-06 at 5:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dirtbag I can't tell if you're trolling. The Weimar constitution was the most democratic one in Europe at the time. The depravity you're talking about was jazz music and women wearing trousers and smoking. Inflation had already gone down by the time Hitler was elected and I have no words for muslim countries not wanting to me muslim.
lol what
come back with even a surface-level understanding of the period between WWI and WWII -
2024-07-06 at 5:46 AM UTCThe Germans never were a democratic people, they always wanted one strong leader. Humiliation from losing the first world war drove them to vote for him. As did unemployment and that Hitler promised to end paying reparations for the first World War.
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2024-07-06 at 6:05 AM UTCI have an A Level in history BTW. Dismissing people as not knowing anything just shows you're insecure and means you won't learn from those people.
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2024-07-06 at 6:13 AM UTCThat’s good, so it works both ways .
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2024-07-06 at 6:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dirtbag The Germans never were a democratic people, they always wanted one strong leader. Humiliation from losing the first world war drove them to vote for him. As did unemployment and that Hitler promised to end paying reparations for the first World War.
nobody was ever a 'democratic people'; even the Greeks who conceptualised it had a very different idea of 'democracy' to what it is today.
yeah, true enough the Treaty of Versaille was specifically designed to keep Germany poor enough that it couldn't rebuild its industrial base, but the Weimar government was notoriously corrupt and forsook rebuilding the country in any meaningful way for 'social causes' in a way that mirrors what's happening now in the US.
there was escalating poverty and street violence alongside widespread graft and lavish funding for social engineering projects like Magnus Hirschfield's institute, which led to things like the roving gangs of 'Wild Boys' and other bandits as well as communist gangs that would later become known as things like Antifa.
the average German at the time elected Hitler because they wanted stability and a return to order, and they supported him dismantling the (overwhelmingly J'ewish) Weimar government because it was corrupt and nepotistic and did nothing for the people.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-07-06 at 6:14 AM UTCPpl are weird
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2024-07-06 at 6:16 AM UTCDang
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2024-07-06 at 6:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dirtbag I have an A Level in history BTW. Dismissing people as not knowing anything just shows you're insecure and means you won't learn from those people.
if you want to convince me of something you need to present a convincing argument, not tell me about your high school grades -
2024-07-06 at 6:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas nobody was ever a 'democratic people'; even the Greeks who conceptualised it had a very different idea of 'democracy' to what it is today.
yeah, true enough the Treaty of Versaille was specifically designed to keep Germany poor enough that it couldn't rebuild its industrial base, but the Weimar government was notoriously corrupt and forsook rebuilding the country in any meaningful way for 'social causes' in a way that mirrors what's happening now in the US.
there was escalating poverty and street violence alongside widespread graft and lavish funding for social engineering projects like Magnus Hirschfield's institute, which led to things like the roving gangs of 'Wild Boys' and other bandits as well as communist gangs that would later become known as things like Antifa.
the average German at the time elected Hitler because they wanted stability and a return to order, and they supported him dismantling the (overwhelmingly J'ewish) Weimar government because it was corrupt and nepotistic and did nothing for the people.
The German people didn't want the kaiser to abdicate. They didn't choose democracy. You're being too general saying the government did nothing for the people. I already said unemployment was a factor for his appointment but the Weimar government did reduce inflation before that. -
2024-07-06 at 6:23 AM UTC
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2024-07-06 at 6:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by DontTellEm He’s dumb. She’s dumb because she’s some cyclops using Botox in her 20s … lol gross Imagine. But who are u bro?
Botox is so dangerous if it gets into the blood stream. even if it has been weakened first. they have to be specific about muscle tissue and not jabbing a major arteryThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-07-06 at 7:52 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist No, we need to help the developing world to start actually getting developed, so they don't need/want to come. If I lived in a "developing" shithole country that I knew was never likely gonna develop in my lifetime, then I'd want to move to that awesome world I keep seeing in movies and television. I don't blame them, I blame the fucktatd politicians that facilitate it en masse.
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People have been trying to "fix" Africa and other shitholes for hundreds of years. That's what the British Empire destroyed itself trying to do. Rhodesia broke itself trying to turn Zimbabwe into England. The whole "white man's burden" shit, as if we have a responsibility to fix the world. As if we have the ability. They're not fixable.
In a way it's not as bad as it could be, and the immigration we are getting is the middle class escaping from those countries. We're not getting the worst from those societies. We're not getting the best either. None of it benefits us. I only worry about myself and my people and what is good for us. I don't owe anyone else anything. -
2024-07-06 at 7:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dirtbag The German people didn't want the kaiser to abdicate. They didn't choose democracy. You're being too general saying the government did nothing for the people. I already said unemployment was a factor for his appointment but the Weimar government did reduce inflation before that.
Something that gets glossed over is that the German economy actually did OK through hyperinflation. Like business and work continued. Shops and other businesses developed complex systems of tables to adjust prices, sometimes multiple times a day.
Debt and the rentier class (meaning landlords) got wiped out, because loans and rent shrunk so much in real terms. A lot of the scaremongering about hyperinflation comes from that class. They make money from money, and that gives them a lot of free time to plot and whine. They're parasitic, but they're not idle.
Following hyperinflation a new currency was enacted, and it was actually a period of deflation that triggered a severe economic downturn and got Hitler elected. That's why central bankers are so terrified of deflation.
