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Have you been brainwashed?
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2024-06-03 at 12:39 AM UTC
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2024-06-03 at 12:51 AM UTC
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2024-06-03 at 12:58 AM UTC
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2024-06-03 at 1:04 AM UTCyou think he brain washed you ?
also I am unfamiliar lol -
2024-06-03 at 2:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Grimace I am not brainwashed nor can I be. I can sniff out fucking bullshit. I am too anti-government, anti-religion, anti-tradition to ever be swooned by their hopes and dreams they promise you.
I do agree that some people are more prone to being brainwashed than others, namely, the elderly. Especially elderly women. Elderly white women, to be precise. They seem to be the most gullible and will literally allow you to spoon-feed them anything you want as long as it "sounds" reasonable or plays upon things they're dealing with in life at their age.
Anyone who is a DIE-HARD supporter of their religion, political party, etc is absolutely brainwashed. When someone even ATTEMPTS to brainwash me, my body and mind REJECT IT and I become agitated and ultimately full blown pissed. My anger at the bullshit you're touting is how I know you're trying to brainwash me and in the words of my very wise wife, "YOU CAN'T BRAINWASH ME, MOTHERFUCKERS!"
You would be restrained in a straight jacket and then strapped securely onto a gurney, you wouldn't be able move your body a single inch, and then a laser beam would be projected directly between your eyes, while Tiny Tim played in the background, and suggestions would be whispered into your ears at random intervals, until your screams are heard even in the deep underground labyrinth. Years of saline solution pumped into your veins to keep your heart beating, you would be subjected night and day to the whispered suggestions, again and again and again, until you finally broke. Then a keyword would be planted deep inside your psyche, but you wouldn't know what it is, until someone says the word. Brainwashed you would be, and brainwashed you would remain, like a human vegetable, or an African coo-coo bird. -
2024-06-03 at 5:44 AM UTC
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2024-06-03 at 6:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ You would be restrained in a straight jacket and then strapped securely onto a gurney, you wouldn't be able move your body a single inch, and then a laser beam would be projected directly between your eyes, while Tiny Tim played in the background, and suggestions would be whispered into your ears at random intervals, until your screams are heard even in the deep underground labyrinth. Years of saline solution pumped into your veins to keep your heart beating, you would be subjected night and day to the whispered suggestions, again and again and again, until you finally broke. Then a keyword would be planted deep inside your psyche, but you wouldn't know what it is, until someone says the word. Brainwashed you would be, and brainwashed you would remain, like a human vegetable, or an African coo-coo bird.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron#MKULTRA_Subproject_68 -
2024-06-03 at 6:16 AM UTCInteresting.
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2024-06-03 at 6:25 AM UTCguy experimented with wiping a person's entire personality by using curare to paralyze them, then forced them to listen to the same short loop of voice instructions for weeks in the dark, unable to move.
one of his assistants joined Hezbullah, kidnapped a CIA station chief and used the same trick to totally obliterate his mind. apparently it worked, because they were able to disappear the entire CIA team there and even sent the US embassy a video of him, a blabbering mess, along with a hundred pages of classified information he'd given them -
2024-06-04 at 6:46 AM UTCYeah I was telling Kinkou to google mk ultra and betas and betas (sex kitten slaves)
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2024-06-04 at 7:57 AM UTCI been brainwashed yeah
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2024-06-04 at 7:59 AM UTCPeople who've had their brain washed don't know their brains have been washed.
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2024-06-04 at 11:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Grimace I mostly agree, but it has its exceptions.
Take Donald Trump for example. He was never a politician. He wasn't always a celebrity. He was the son of a well to do business man in New York that inherited that empire and ran with it.
For the entirety of his "career" he appeared in things like WWF, Home Alone, etc. He starred on his own reality TV show for awhile.
People forget that during the 80s and 90s he himself said he was a "Democrat".
It was only during the 2016 election he claimed he was a Republican "only to try and beat Hillary"
Either way, whatever the motives are, the cult following around him is massive. He cannot do ANY WRONG in the eyes of his supporters. Any wrong lobbied at him simply CANNOT be true. They cannot imagine a scenario where he did actual wrong. It's impossible.
This is probably one of the biggest cults worldwide as he somehow franchises foreigners too.
Politics and religion are the biggest carriers for brainwash material.
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2024-06-04 at 12:54 PM UTC
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2024-06-04 at 12:55 PM UTC
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2024-06-04 at 1 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe So from your perspective, someone who has been brainwashed has no freewill?
pretty much. There's a reason cults all kinda look the same is because they need to do the same kind of things to people to control their behavior.
Behavior Control
Regulate individual’s physical reality
Dictate where, how, and with whom the member lives and associates or isolates
When, how and with whom the member has sex
Control types of clothing and hairstyles
Regulate diet – food and drink, hunger and/or fasting
Manipulation and deprivation of sleep
Financial exploitation, manipulation or dependence
Restrict leisure, entertainment, vacation time
Major time spent with group indoctrination and rituals and/or self indoctrination including the Internet
Permission required for major decisions
Rewards and punishments used to modify behaviors, both positive and negative
Discourage individualism, encourage group-think
Impose rigid rules and regulations
Punish disobedience by beating, torture, burning, cutting, rape, or tattooing/branding
Threaten harm to family and friends
Force individual to rape or be raped
Encourage and engage in corporal punishment
Instill dependency and obedience
Kidnapping
Beating
Torture
Rape
Separation of Families
Imprisonment
Murder
Information Control
Deception:
a. Deliberately withhold information
b. Distort information to make it more acceptable
c. Systematically lie to the cult member
Minimize or discourage access to non-cult sources of information, including:
a. Internet, TV, radio, books, articles, newspapers, magazines, media
b. Critical information
c. Former members
d. Keep members busy so they don’t have time to think and investigate
e. Control through cell phone with texting, calls, internet tracking
Compartmentalize information into Outsider vs. Insider doctrines
a. Ensure that information is not freely accessible
b. Control information at different levels and missions within group
c. Allow only leadership to decide who needs to know what and when
Encourage spying on other members
a. Impose a buddy system to monitor and control member
b. Report deviant thoughts, feelings and actions to leadership
c. Ensure that individual behavior is monitored by group
Extensive use of cult-generated information and propaganda, including:
a. Newsletters, magazines, journals, audiotapes, videotapes, YouTube, movies and other media
b. Misquoting statements or using them out of context from non-cult sources
Unethical use of confession
a. Information about sins used to disrupt and/or dissolve identity boundaries
b. Withholding forgiveness or absolution
c. Manipulation of memory, possible false memories
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2024-06-04 at 2:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood pretty much. There's a reason cults all kinda look the same is because they need to do the same kind of things to people to control their behavior.
sounds like society to me ack ack ack
Can the brainwashed person do anything to get their freewill back again? How do you verify someone has lost their freewill, and isn't just parroting a narrative? -
2024-06-04 at 2:47 PM UTCGoogle common sense
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2024-06-04 at 4:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Grimace …He cannot do ANY WRONG in the eyes of his supporters. Any wrong lobbied at him simply CANNOT be true. They cannot imagine a scenario where he did actual wrong. It's impossible.
Kinda like your worship and support of the pay-for-play child-sniffing pedophile currently in office, eh? -
2024-06-04 at 8:51 PM UTC
As for the suicides, Hecht said he did not regard the members as “victims.” He makes no judgment as to whether the cultists’ understanding of heaven was wise or reasonable and takes their final act at face value: eagerness for another life.
“A person buys into a narrative or not,” he says. “There’s a mutual responsibility for those who act out narratives.” Hecht objects to the “thought reform” camp for moral reasons. “If you buy into the psychological interpretation, it ultimately frees us of responsibility for our actions.”
There is perhaps a middle ground between viewing this largely incomprehensible group suicide as either an expression of brainwashing or especially powerful storytelling. Stanton Peele, a clinical psychologist specializing in addiction treatment and theory in Morristown, N.J., compares it to drug use. Though belonging to the group was ultimately destructive, he says it must have also been rewarding in the sense that a narcotic or even alcohol can temporarily allay anxieties. Not everyone who tries heroin becomes addicted, he said, and not everyone exposed to an extremist cult’s “thought reform” techniques is captivated.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-04-04-mn-45358-story.html
