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I can see why people hate gay people.
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2024-05-29 at 12:27 PM UTCIt's all cock this, butt that, look at my penis, hey have u ever had a gay experience (Want to?), etc that shit's annoying especially when you let them worm your way inside of your children's school or even your child.
THat's when I really see why people have a problem with it like with transgender people and stuff brainwashing kids.
Anyway, article describing how they basically systematically kill homos around the world through various torture, extrajudicial killings, mass beatings, and other stuff.
Not in the USA though, I can walk around the beach wearing a pink speedo and no one will hurt me, they will even say supportive things like Wow ur dad must be proud & Ur so brave exposing yourself to other men on the beach, shit like that.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2022/03/23/everyone-wants-me-dead/killings-abductions-torture-and-sexual-violence-against
I can see why people don't like gay people, shit half the time I don't either Pride month starts in 48 hours. -
2024-05-29 at 12:29 PM UTCalso I think it's super cringe when 'straight' men liek Paul Wozny rape gay men as a form of punishment/sexual battery and you're like "Oh because they don't like butt fuckers they shoved a bottle or broomstick or something up his ass, that's crazy."
and it's like "No they got an erection, held him down, and fucked him in the ass because the guy was gay."
and im like oh wow, tell him to call me im gay -
2024-05-29 at 6:48 PM UTCI'm straight and Islamic but I don't hate gay people.
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2024-05-29 at 7:20 PM UTC
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2024-05-29 at 7:26 PM UTCOf all the Gospel passages that I have found helpful in ministry with LGBTQ people, the beautiful story of Zacchaeus—has been the most meaningful for me (Lk 19: 1-10).
At first glance, the story of Jesus’s encounter with the tax collector in Jericho would seem to have little to do with LGBTQ people today. But if you read it carefully, this passage from Luke’s Gospel, a masterpiece of storytelling, has a great deal to say about all those who find themselves marginalized.
Now I don’t want to imply that LGBTQ people are always and everywhere “marginalized.” But it’s fair to say that in the Catholic Church many of them feel that way. So as we read the Gospel, I would like to invite you to see Zacchaeus as an emblem of the LGBTQ person. Notice all the subtle resonances in the story.
To begin with, Luke tells us that Zacchaeus is the “chief tax collector” in Jericho. Now, that would have meant that he was probably “on the outs” with most of the people in this predominantly jedi town, not only because he was colluding with the Roman authorities, but also because tax collectors had the reputation of skimming money off the top.
My old New Testament professor Daniel J. Harrington, SJ, used to say that when we read “chief tax collector” here, we should think “chief sinner.” But by using Zacchaeus as a way of seeing the LGBTQ person, I’m not saying LGBTQ people are any more sinful than anyone else–we’re all sinners in one way or another. Rather, they often feel “on the outs,” especially in the church. Like Zacchaeus probably did in Jericho.
At the beginning of the story, Zacchaeus is described as “short in stature.” Luke means that he was physically small. But how little “stature” do LGBTQ people have in the church today? They are often ignored, excluded, not listened to. And, says Luke, Zacchaeus couldn’t see Jesus “because of the crowd.” Again, that means that he couldn’t see over their heads, but how often does “the crowd” get in the way of LGBTQ people encountering God? How often are we part of “the crowd” that prevents people with “little stature” from coming to know God? How often is the church part of “the crowd”?
So what does Zacchaeus do? He climbs a sycamore tree. (The homey touch of identifying the precise type of tree gives this story an added sense of historicity.) Why does he climb a tree? Because he wanted to “see Jesus.” (The original Greek is even more moving: he wanted “to see who Jesus was.”) That’s what LGBTQ Catholics want today as well: to “see Jesus.” But the crowd often gets in the way. So they must do something extra—go out on a limb—just to see what everyone else sees.
As Jesus is passing through Jericho (with what would probably have been a sizeable crowd, since this story comes towards the end of his public ministry) he spies the diminutive tax collector perched high in the sycamore tree. Jesus then invites himself to the man’s house, a public sign of welcome. “Zacchaeus,” says Jesus, “come down quickly, for today I must stay at your house!” Jesus is offering him what New Testament scholars call “table fellowship.”
Then comes my favorite line in the story: “When they all saw this, they began to grumble.” The Greek word used here is panta, all, which would have included the disciples as well. All began to grumble. Why? Because showing mercy to those on the margins always infuriates some people. It did in Jesus’s time and it does in ours.
So the next time you see someone opposing mercy to LGBTQ people, remember this line: “They began to grumble.”
But that does not deter Zacchaeus at all. He shinnies down the tree and “stands there” (the Greek word used has the implication of “standing one’s ground”). And he receives Jesus “with joy.” Of course! How joyful it is to be welcomed into the community! Many LGBTQ people know the joy of finally feeling welcomed.
Then Zacchaeus makes a public declaration: If he has defrauded anyone, he will repay them four times over and he will give half his money to the poor. This is usually considered to be Zacchaeus’s conversion, from whatever sins he had committed. And indeed, in the Gospels, any encounter with Jesus provokes a conversion. (By the way, I’m not alluding to “conversion therapy,” but rather to metanoia, the word Jesus used for the change of mind and heart that we are all called to.)
But recently I discovered something surprising about this Gospel passage. The English translation that we use at Mass, from the New American Bible, is this: “Half of my possessions, Lord, I shall give to the poor.” But the original Greek is in the present tense: “I give (or am giving) half of my possessions to the poor.” Zacchaeus seems to be already doing that.
In other words, the conversion that is occurring may be not only Zacchaeus’s conversion, but the crowd’s conversion as well, as Jesus reveals to them that the one who was on the “outside” is more generous than they had ever imagined. How often is that the case with LGBTQ people, after people in the church come to know them!
At the end of the story, Jesus calls Zacchaeus a “Son of Abraham.” It’s a phrase that would have resonated deeply with the jedi crowd. Later in Luke, Jesus calls the woman who was “bent over” the “Daughter of Abraham” after he has healed her (13:16). In both cases, Jesus is reminding the crowd that “they” are part of “us.”
In this beautiful Gospel narrative, Jesus has demonstrated his inclusion of Zacchaeus not only by inviting himself to dine at his house, but by using the phrase “Son of Abraham,” which tells the crowd explicitly, “This man is one of us.”
So it seems to me that there are two places we can stand regarding ministry to LGBTQ people and indeed any who feel on the margins. You can stand with the crowd who “grumbles.” Or you can stand with Jesus. -
2024-05-29 at 7:30 PM UTCDudes
Towards the end of my last sentence their was whole LGBTQ friendly wing of the jail where it was promoted and even an LGBTQ wing commander or whatever the US eviqvalent is.
I dont have any problems with it's all media hype, but it does get pushed alot onto us based on the percentage of how many guys their are against eh while population -
2024-05-29 at 7:42 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-05-30 at 1:24 AM UTC
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2024-05-30 at 3:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Instigator Dudes
Towards the end of my last sentence their was whole LGBTQ friendly wing of the jail where it was promoted and even an LGBTQ wing commander or whatever the US eviqvalent is.
I dont have any problems with it's all media hype, but it does get pushed alot onto us based on the percentage of how many guys their are against eh while population
I'm gonna try to have it pushed into you in the future.
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I believe they call them "shock collars"
Shot callers, Jesus you foreigners are dumb. The guy who calls the shots.
Originally posted by Michael Myers We will protect you.
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2024-05-30 at 3:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bradley Shot callers, Jesus you foreigners are dumb. The guy who calls the shots.
Nobody is getting shot in prison you ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARD
they are called "Shock Collars" because they have such power in prison that they can control people as if they were wearing shock collars. The biggest guy has the remote, when he presses the button, you get shocked. -
2024-05-30 at 5:08 AM UTCGaetan Dugas
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2024-05-30 at 10:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by Elbow Right? I would pity the hell out of anyone God wanted me to hang from a crane, not hate them.
Obvs religious folk are dumb as shit, but I always thought its super dumb if you can't see how insulting it would be to your god to take it upon yourself to decide who you think your god wanted dead and secondly that you'd think that your god even needed you to just go ahead and do the killing on his behalf, without even consulting him about it. How arrogant have you got to be to go and make those sorts of decisions on his behalf? If anyone's going to hell its those dumb idiots lol.
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2024-05-30 at 10:50 PM UTCI try to understand Muslim theology but they are pretty wild. The only thing I can really get is their absolute certainty that their way of life and values are the only correct way to live
jedis/Christians generally believe in the 10 commandment "thou shalt not kill" and simply follow the law. It's not like Muslims just ignore this law, they simply interpret the ENTIRE THING completely different.Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, the parable of myself and the Prophets before me is that of a man who built a house, perfected it, and beautified it, except for the place of one brick at its cornerstone. The people walk around it and are amazed by it, and they say: Why is this brick not placed? Thus, I am the brick. I am the seal of the Prophets.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3535, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2286
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ إِنَّ مَثَلِي وَمَثَلَ الْأَنْبِيَاءِ مِنْ قَبْلِي كَمَثَلِ رَجُلٍ بَنَى بَيْتًا فَأَحْسَنَهُ وَأَجْمَلَهُ إِلَّا مَوْضِعَ لَبِنَةٍ مِنْ زَاوِيَةٍ فَجَعَلَ النَّاسُ يَطُوفُونَ بِهِ وَيَعْجَبُونَ لَهُ وَيَقُولُونَ هَلَّا وُضِعَتْ هَذِهِ اللَّبِنَةُ قَالَ فَأَنَا اللَّبِنَةُ وَأَنَا خَاتِمُ النَّبِيِّينَ
3535 صحيح البخاري كتاب المناقب باب خاتم النبيين صلى الله عليه وسلم
2286 صحيح مسلم كتاب الفضائل باب ذكر كونه صلى الله عليه وسلم خاتم النبيينWe’re supposed to be like those bricks ^. Each one of them has its own special place, and each one of them is significant in its own way. Even if one of them falls out of its place, the wall will lose its strength. Allah says in the Qur’an:
“The Believers are but a single Brotherhood.” [Al-Hujurat 49:10]
Further:
“The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin the ma`roof (all of Islam), and forbid the munkar (all that is evil; kufr): they observe regular prayers, pay Zakat, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise.” [9:71]
Allah’s Messenger (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
“A Muslim is the brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, forsake him, or despise him.”
“It is sufficient evil for a Muslim that he should look down upon his brother. The life, wealth, and honor of a Muslim are inviolable by another Muslim.” [Sahih Muslim]
It is related by Abu Hurairah (ra) that the Prophet said,
“There are five claims of a Muslim upon a Muslim: to return his greetings when he greets; to visit him when he falls ill; to attend his funeral; to accept his invitation to a meal and to pray for him, when he sneezes, by saying ‘yarhamukallah’ (May the mercy of Allah be on you).”
Anas (ra) reports that Rasulullah (s) once said:
“I swear by the Holy Being in whose power my life is, any one of you cannot be a true believer unless he desires for his fellow-brother what he desires for himself.”
“Brotherhood is synonymous with Islam. It is a force for good, a purveyor of peace and justice for everyone. It provides stability in a quarrelsome world. To the downtrodden and oppressed everywhere in the past, it provided freedom. When it was powerful, it even saved the jedis and Christians in Palestine and Spain from each other.” -Z.B. Asghar
So much for the past. What about the present? Do we understand the noble concept of Islamic brotherhood? Do we practice it? Do we belong to it?
They believe that the laws followed by the Western World are "incomplete" and can only be completed by the prophet of Islam and his very specific way of living, every religion was incomplete until then, according to them. It's kinda hard to wrap my head around but I think I kinda get it (very amateur muslim theology I have never read the Quaran) I READ ALL BIBLES AND GOD IS CHINESE!!!!1
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2024-05-30 at 11 PM UTC
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2024-05-30 at 11:09 PM UTC
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2024-05-30 at 11:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I try to understand Muslim theology but they are pretty wild. The only thing I can really get is their absolute certainty that their way of life and values are the only correct way to live
jedis/Christians generally believe in the 10 commandment "thou shalt not kill" and simply follow the law. It's not like Muslims just ignore this law, they simply interpret the ENTIRE THING completely different.
They believe that the laws followed by the Western World are "incomplete" and can only be completed by the prophet of Islam and his very specific way of living, every religion was incomplete until then, according to them. It's kinda hard to wrap my head around but I think I kinda get it (very amateur muslim theology I have never read the Quaran) I READ ALL BIBLES AND GOD IS CHINESE!!!!1
You know I'm a muzzie, right? You can ask me questions. -
2024-05-30 at 11:55 PM UTC
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2024-05-31 at 12:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Do you think my basic understanding is correct at all or am I totally off the mark and insane and need to read more?
Well, you're right about the absolute certainty part but I feel like that's true for every religion, you know? I also see that you are using oral traditions that were passed down but I don't believe in those as much as my co-religionists do. They believe it to be as sacred as the holy book which I find mind-numbingly stupid. One is the word of Man (the hadith collections) and the other is the word of God (the Qur'an). I guess I'm more of a Qur'anist. I just don't think the two are comparable at all, or that they should be placed on the same level. It feels rather blasphemous to me. Anyway, even my co-religionists don't understand many things so they preach the wrong things. They claim Islam means "peace," when it really means "submission." Which refers to submitting to God. This means living life according to God's ideals which are laid down in the Qur'an. Another point is they perpetuate the myth that Islam was created 1400 years ago. We believe Islam existed since day one, but that the message became corrupted overtime, hence why we have the Torah and the Bible and why there are a lot of many similarities with these books and other world religions, because it came from the same source (God). The seal of the prophets, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent to restore the original religion in the way God intended it. You should think of him more as a restorer rather than a creator of a religion. -
2024-05-31 at 12:22 AM UTCDecided I'm not gay anymore yall
My hetero name is Brad now too -
2024-05-31 at 12:27 AM UTC
